User talk:Jivesh boodhun/Archive 18

WikiCup 2012 January newsletter

WikiCup 2012 is off to a flying start. At the time of writing, we have 112 contestants; comparable to last year, but slightly fewer than 2010. Signups will remain open for another week, after which time they will be closed for this year. Our currrent far-away leader is Grapple X (submissions), due mostly to his work on a slew of good articles about The X-Files; there remain many such articles waiting to be reviewed at good article candidates. Second place is currently held by Ruby2010 (submissions), whose points come mostly from good articles about television episodes, although good article reviews, did you knows and an article about a baroness round out the score. In third place is Jivesh boodhun (submissions), who has scored 200 points for his work on a single featured article, as well as points for work on others, mostly in the area of pop music. In all, nine users have 100 or more points. However, at the other end of the scale, there are still dozens of participants who are yet to score. Please remember to update your submission pages promptly!

The 64 highest scoring participants will advance to round 2 in a month's time. There, they will be split into eight random groups of eight. The score needed to reach the next round is not at all clear; last year, 8 points guaranteed a place. The year before, 20.

A few participants and their work warrant a mention for achieving "firsts" in this competition.

• 12george1 (submissions) was the first to score, with his good article review of Illinois v. McArthur.
• 12george1 (submissions) was also the first to score points for an article, thanks to his work on Hurricane Debby (1982)- now a good article. Tropical storms have featured heavily in the Cup, and good articles currently have a relatively fast turnaround time for reviews.
• Sp33dyphil (submissions) was the first to score points for a did you know, with Russian submarine K-114 Tula. Military history is another subject which has seen a lot of Cup activity.
• Sp33dyphil (submissions) is also the first person to successfully claim bonus points. Terminator 2: Judgment Day is now a good article, and was eligible for bonus points because the subject was covered on more than 20 other Wikipedias at the start of the competition. It is fantastic to see bonus points being claimed so early!
• Speciate (submissions) was the first to score points for an In the News entry, with Paedophryne amauensis. The lead image from the article was also used on the main page for a time, and it's certainly eye-catching!
• Jivesh boodhun (submissions) was the first to score points for a featured article, and is, at the moment, the only competitor to claim for one. The article, "Halo" (Beyoncé Knowles song), was also worth double points because of its wide coverage. While this is an article that Jivesh and others have worked on for some time, it is undeniable that he has put considerable work into it this year, pushing it over the edge.

We are yet to see any featured lists, featured topics or good topics, but this is unsurprising; firstly, the nomination processes with each of these can take some time, and, secondly, it can take a considerable amount of time to work content to this level. In a similar vein, we have seen only one featured article. The requirement that content must have been worked on this year to be eligible means that we did not expect to see these at the start of the competition. No points have been claimed for featured portals or pictures, but these are not content types which are often claimed; the former has never made a big impact on the WikiCup, while the latter has not done so since 2009's competition.

A quick rules clarification before the regular notices: If you are concerned that another user is claiming points inappropriately, please contact a judge to take a look at the article. Competitors policing one another can create a bad atmosphere, and may lead to inconsistencies and mistakes. Rest assured that we, the judges, are making an effort to check submissions, but it is possible that we will miss something. On a loosely related note: If you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn and The ed17 00:10, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Re If I were a Boy

Glad to help - the article is in pretty good shape, so it is just a bit of polish. Plus this happens to be a Beyonce song I actually know and like very much, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 01:57, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm soooo

...lateyyyy to the party... so congrats on hitting her like a ray of sunnnnnnnnnnn... and burnt her darkness through the nigggghttttt. — Legolas ^(talk2me)

Dhaniawadddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 05:31, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

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Hey

come online. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 12:50, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Nice work!

Nice work on the Beyonce songs article. You work fast. ;) I've been working on Jenny's since November. I guess I'm a slow joke. :L I would really appreciate it if you could help me out with the lead? I just can't seem to get it right. — Status {^talk_contribs 08:28, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

LOL. I meant poke. I did that earlier too. :L Why must I keep doing that? Yeah, I do. I don't think Jenny's needs to be that long. I'm just struggling with doing the recording, sound, etc. paragraph (which would be the second one). I have it planned out to me: 1st par - intro and shit, 2nd par - info about the songs, recording, 3rd par - controversy surrounding the songs. — Status {^talk_contribs 08:33, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Also, I'd love you forever if you finished formatting the BMI references for me. I seriously have too much shit on the go. I went and created Personal life and public image of Jennifer Lopez now, and am also working on Jenny's main article. xD — Status {^talk_contribs 08:34, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

I wish I could do that... LOL. The only article that could be copy and pasted a bit is Love? :( Her other articles are shit. I'll eventually get to them... xD Been focusing so much on the lists. — Status {^talk_contribs 08:36, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much. You're a life saver. <3 — Status {^talk_contribs 08:39, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

That's fine with me. :) As long as it'd done by the weekend, I'm good. I plan on nominating it sometime this weekend, and then focusing on her videography. :) — Status {^talk_contribs 00:32, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Favor

Can you look for some receptions for "Unfaithful"? Or accolades, lists or something? Thanks Jiv :) ! — Tomica (talk) 00:46, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Sure. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 04:35, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	You're the best! :)))) jmarkfrancia (talk) 10:54, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

I Am... Yours

Is File:Beyonce Vegas Live Inst.jpg needed in I Am... Yours: An Intimate Performance at Wynn Las Vegas? I'm planning to nominate it today but can you do a last copy-edit? My love is love (talk) 11:08, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

No actually, please do that later. I'm going to expand it a little more. My love is love (talk) 11:11, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I know, but nothing is confirmed by her or her managment... And what's the surprise for me? Lol. My love is love (talk) 11:14, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Me too. I also love "Video Games". But the SNL performance was sooooooo bad. She really didn;t need that bad performance at the beginning of her career. My love is love (talk) 11:17, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Here and here but the second one is on Vevo. My love is love (talk) 11:25, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

I also thought the same but after I've seen Live at Wembley (Beyoncé Knowles album) and Sticky & Sweet Tour (album) where they weren't separated I thought that it would be a mistake if I do that. And can you please copy-edit the article now? And if you can please find sources for the release in Italy and Argentina. My love is love (talk) 15:54, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

 Done My love is love (talk) 16:07, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Heading change in Love the Way You Lie

Sincere apologies that I had to revert you. I thought I would explain why or else it would be rude and I would be claiming "ownership" of the article: the last paragraph of the sectoin focuses more on the general theme than in-depth lyrical interpretation. It discusses how the song's message is influenced by the Chris Brown assault and Eminem's ex-wife Kim. True there is in-depth analysis in the middle paragraphs, but that's all part of the theme too. :-) —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 12:26, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Don't worry. I totally understand. I know who I can trust here and your are one of those in whom I have faith. :) Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:27, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for understanding. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 12:52, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

You are welcome. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:54, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

If you get the chance

Just comment here. I do believe we have a MIA fan-boy thing coming. BTW, your talk page is becoming a fan-page and losing its professionalism. My cents. :( — Legolas ^(talk2me) 13:12, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Status is taking care of my talk-page :P I am commenting there. :) Jivesh1205 (Talk) 15:06, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Suggestion

I really think you should separate your userpage into subpages. It's a bit too big. — Status {^talk_contribs 03:42, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

No, not at all. Just looks like one of those fakeasses names people make up. Thanks, maybe it wasn't as bad off as I thought. Sometimes you just work on something so much you only see flaws. xD Yay, good luck! Soon you ain't gonna have anything to do on Wikipedia! LOL! xD By "I have no idea how to do that." do you mean the above comments? It's the same as making sandboxes, yo. Best, — Status {^talk_contribs 11:31, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Haha, silly you! ;) Why thank ya. I may take things seriously around here, but that doesn't mean I'm nice. ;) Thanks again; was dreading doing that. Why can't the stupid reflinks do BMI? LOL. Yeah, I highly suggest you do that. Would make everything look cleaner. And you are really racking up those GAs. xD You makin' me look like shit. I gots two. :L — Status {^talk_contribs 11:47, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Let me... — Status {^talk_contribs 11:53, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Already done, silly. ;) — Status {^talk_contribs 16:32, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

That's because they have their own pages now. Check the edit history. — Status {^talk_contribs 16:35, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

OH! You actually have no idea how to do it. :L I'll set it up for you. You can add all the content etc yourself. — Status {^talk_contribs 19:51, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

First thing to do tomorrow morning (Reminder)

Copy-edit IAYAIPAWLV. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:27, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Freshman

Regarding your user page. :) It looks good. Check Facebook when you see this msg :) ! — Tomica (talk) 23:21, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

What happened with the stuff? It was okay when I added? — Tomica (talk) 10:18, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

And who says that Simon hates Beyonce?:) 10:20, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Peer review limits changed

This is a notice to all users who currently have at least one open peer review at Wikipedia:Peer review. Because of the large number of peer review requests and relatively low number of reviewers, the backlog of PRs has been at 20 or more almost continually for several months. The backlog is for PR requests which have gone at least four days without comments, and some of these have gone two weeks or longer waiting for a review.

While we have been able to eventually review all PRs that remain on the backlog, something had to change. As a result of the discussion here, the consensus was that all users are now limited to one (1) open peer review request.

If you already have more than one open PR, that is OK in this transition period, but you cannot open any more until all your active PR requests have been closed. If you would like someone to close a PR for you, please ask at Wikipedia talk:Peer review. If you want to help with the backlog, please review an article whoe PR request is listed at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog/items. Thanks, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:59, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Sources

Hello Jivesh, you could ask the user "Ericorbit" if he can use the WebCite, equal in article "1+1" (http://www.webcitation.org/602pgUltT)? for all users confirm the information (see Wikipedia:Verifiability). For example, source in article "Resentment" peaked at #11, can not be varificada by all users, this is not correct. You can ask the user, please? (I never talked to this user, but someone here can do this... please!) Lucas S. ^msg 12:02, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

haha.. my english is horrible. The user "Ericorbit" can confirm the information from the site "Billboard.biz". I wonder if he can save the page of the charts in WebCite, equal in article "1+1" (see link). You understand my message now? haha!! Lucas S. ^msg 12:27, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Re:Are you ...

Hi Jivesh! I don't like her, nor of her songs. Thanks! Vitor Mazuco ^Talk! 14:32, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Okay. But really, thanks for the logos. Much appreciated. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 14:55, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

My sincere thanks

My friend, thank you. This is very motivating, you are a model editor for your excellence. Thank you. Silencio faz bem (talk) 14:06, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

No problems...

and congratulations on your second FA. I will always be delighted to comment on your articles. I'm on IRC if you wanna chat. --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 05:12, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Good to see you do a bit of vandal fighting after having promoted an article to FA! --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 05:17, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Ping! --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 10:50, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

NVM, have to get off. --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 11:00, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Ping! --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 06:59, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

I was online, but couldn't see you. Log in again. --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 09:05, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi! you know what you should do :) --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 04:40, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

I'll be off in 15 mins and will be back in 75 mins. --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 04:46, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm on IRC if you wanna chat, but I got a feeling you don't. --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 06:14, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Re:

Why yes, yes I am. — Status {^talk_contribs 12:21, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Huh? — Status {^talk_contribs 22:46, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

That would be an accurate statement. — Status {^talk_contribs 16:49, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes, yes it does. — Status {^talk_contribs 17:26, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

I have my moments. ;) LOL — Status {^talk_contribs 17:31, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

LMAO. Who are you? And IKR... I only have 5, I believe. >.> Them Monsters are too much for me... — Status {^talk_contribs 17:34, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Hey

Do you think I need to get You Don't Love Me (No, No, No) peer reviewed before I can nominate Music of the Sun for Good Topic? Aaron • ^{You Da One} 13:14, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

It's not in Rihanna's Wiki-project. So no. And peer reviews? For what? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:15, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Articles related to the topic which are ineligable for GA have to be peer reviewed first to address any outstanding issues. That's why those two Rihanna tours were just peer reviewed, because they can't become a GA. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 13:18, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Ahh okay but anyway that song article can be expanded. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:19, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Not to GA. Do you think I can nominate MofS now for Good Topic? Aaron • ^{You Da One} 13:21, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

I think it can be expanded to GA. Anyway what is MofS? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:24, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

It will never be more than a stub. I mean't MotS, an abbreviation for Music of the Sun. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 13:25, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes. Well I am not sure of the quality of the articles but as long as I see GA icons on the top of each page, yes. But wait, I just checked. Only 4 articles? I will be back later. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:28, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

3 articles. You need a minimum of 3. And the nomination process is so complicated! Aaron • ^{You Da One} 13:31, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, that's okay then. Nevertheless, I think it's very bad. A good topic should (in my opinion) have at least five articles, excluding the album. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 14:56, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, but the criteria is that there must be a minimum of three. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 18:06, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

I did tell you it's okay. Though I have never imagined a good topic with three articles (when it concerns music). Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:09, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Yeah I know lol. Someone has opposed it already, despite me saying that the tour in ineligible. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 18:10, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Oh. Lol. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:12, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

It criteria clearly says that if an article is ineligible, then it must have been peer reviewed, and it has. Yet he still opposed. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 18:14, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

You should tell him this then. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:15, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

I have! Come online. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 18:25, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Come online. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 13:02, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Sasha

Ok. Perfect. I'll help you something with I Am... Sasha Fierce. We can collaborate on "Honesty" and I Am... Tour. I Am... World Tour still needs some work; read the Production and composition section and you'll see. Plus there are lots of unreliable sources. And I don't know about I Am... Yours. Do you want to take it? My love is love (talk) 15:31, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

What do you think about taking it together? My love is love (talk) 11:52, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Ok, but I have to finish something first. My love is love (talk) 11:58, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Hey Jivesh, could you find sources for the release of I Am... Yours: An Intimate Performance at Wynn Las Vegas in Italy and Argentine? My love is love (talk) 18:38, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I don't have a separate table about the Live Instrumentals album so I'm not adding those links. My love is love (talk) 18:53, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

I LUV this song!

[1]!! —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 12:24, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't like Coldplay but the song is excellent. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:41, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Hello~

Hello Jivesh :)) How's your day? jmarkfrancia (talk) 14:14, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Coincidence

When I read your "Wanna Know More About Me?", I think of me. Me too... I am a male, I am 18yrs old, I love Beyoncé, I love R&B, I like pop, I like to listen to Rihanna, I like to listen to Katy Perry, I love Charmed, I love Desperate Housewives, etc. You seem to be my "hidden-twin".
78.112.215.126 (talk) 17:03, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Mylo Xyloto

The template was closed as no consensus. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 23:44, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

That's very bad. This is a case of WP:DISCRIMINATE. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 04:29, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't see why one for Loud can't be created now. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 09:21, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

It was not fair. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 15:20, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

No. Come online. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 15:22, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

If I were a boy

Hi I meant it was a thought experiment - she thinks about it, but does not actually become a boy (it is not a real experiment) ;-) Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 05:00, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Great minds think alike ;-) I just linked it in the article Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 05:04, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks - I menat it about you too. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 15:40, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi

I have been meaning to congratulate you on your new FA's. I read "Halo" and it was like a breeze. You really are a talented editor. I am looking forward to your Queen B progress, have to say "Broken-Hearted Girl" is looking sharp too! But again congratulations Jivesh!! -FeuDeJoie (talk) 18:09, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Personal things

I'm not sure why you think I have anything against you. I'm simply trying to discuss what makes sense for the Beyoncé wiki project. I'm not sure why you take these articles so personally that when I disagree on a matter you think I'm trying to attack you. It's just an encyclopedia. I never said anything about you personally and wouldn't unless you were being destructive to articles. I know that because this is text you might read what I say in any voice and maybe you read me as angry but I assure you I am a very happy, calm, down to earth person. I'm sorry if I offended you but I'm just trying to be more of an editor than a Beyoncé fan. RatiziAngelou^contribs 21:41, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

You are not sure? You always contradict me. I'm just trying to be more of an editor than a Beyoncé fan. - What do you think of me then? That I am more of a fan than an editor? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 04:52, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

I just think you don't always try to be unbiased. And you take things to personally when ever it's just a light debate. When I'm debating a subject matter, I don't get angry or emotional or accuse people of treating me unfairly. You have to be a cool customer to deal with people online. I don't intentionally contradict you because you're Jivesh and I feel like you're just instantly wrong. That would be silly. I love all the work you've put into this project, and just because I don't thank you, it doesn't mean that I don't greatly appreciate it. I just clearly feel differently about certain things. You can't be mad just because I have an opinion that's different than yours. RatiziAngelou^contribs 20:55, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Listen, I don't work on the articles for people to thank me or to give me barnstars. But I don't work on them for people to come and complain when there is nothing to complain about. I cannot understand how the feel the anon was right. Have you even read "I Care"? Anyway, I think this is going too far and I do not want to stretch it further. So, please accept my sincere appologies. Discussion closed on this topic. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 04:54, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

You're getting upset when I'm just trying to talk about this rationally. Yes. I've read "I Care." I get that it has a lot of information on it's writing and production and it's all from credible sources and that's all fine and well. All I'm saying is that from a non R&B fan's perspective, it's a song that doesn't matter. Maybe that is complaining about a non problem. That's fine. But you won't talk to me about it and help me understand your reasoning. You immediately get defensive and try to get me to just ignore the subject. We should be able to talk about this rationally. If you would explain why you think the article is important or explain why it doesn't matter either way, we wouldn't be having a long drawn out arguement. RatiziAngelou^contribs 20:40, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

The article is important to me because I edit articles related to music. I do not edit articles related to monuments, authors, sex, biology, literature, submarines, etc. As simple as this. Plus as far I know, the articles I create pass all necessary criteria. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 06:02, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, I meant specifics but whatever :P It doesn't matter. I didn't want to get rid of the articles anyway. It was the anon. RatiziAngelou^contribs 05:34, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Actually all this happened because you yourself said there that you somehow agree with the anon. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 05:47, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

I do. I think a lot of these articles are silly to have. But I don't care. If they're gonna be around then fine. I'm not on a mission to delete articles or anything. RatiziAngelou^contribs 21:19, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Heard this before?

Hi Jiv, have you heard this song before? It kicks ass; I would love to write an article about it, although all the refs might be Finnish. Once you've listened to it, tell me what you think of it. --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 07:36, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi. How are you? Well, not a big fan, it's quite good. Nothing special for me. I am more in to Lana Del Rey's music lately. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 08:48, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

hey

what's going on? Aaron • ^{You Da One} 13:05, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't know. I think I will take part in exams again. I will do only the mains. I already have the As in my subs. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:28, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I missed you, I went out an left my laptop on. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 17:27, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

You missed me? :S Jivesh1205 (Talk) 17:34, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Yeah I missed you message on msn? Lol. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 17:35, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Question

Is this IP right? My love is love (talk) 16:28, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 17:20, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Copy-edit request

Hey, Jivesh. While I normally prefer reviewing so that requesting editors can discuss and better follow my concerns, I don't mind copy-editing when necessary either. I would love to help out, although it should be noted that I'm not all too familiar with music articles. Hope this answers your questions! Regards, Auree ★ 05:05, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Tell you what. I'll review it like I would a FAC—that is, applying only light changes while reading through and listing more significant concerns in the review. Is there any particular deadline as to when you'd prefer I have it done? Auree ★ 05:14, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Prose review

A few comments as requested on your Broken Hearted Girl article:

• The first thing to say is that as far as I can discover there is not a spelling mistake to be seen – which is rare even in the prose of the best and most experienced writers. I see that sometimes you omit the accent from the singer's first name, but this is only in quotations/citations, and I imagine the original authors omitted the accent, in which case you are of course right to do so when quoting them. (There is one "Michaelango" rather than the usual "Michelangelo" but I assume that the former is how this particular man spells his name.)

Thanks. Yes for the second. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:40, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

• The structure of the article seems eminently sensible.

Thanks. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:40, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

• You have added Wikilinks very thoroughly – perhaps too thoroughly here and there: do we really need a link to "musical instrument" or "guitar", for example?
• One place where I felt the need for a link that wasn't there was at "emo" in the first sentence of "Composition and lyrical interpretation".

Actually, I had wiki-linked this but it seems that someone removed it. Done again. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:40, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

• Both in the lead and in "Critical reception" you mention "the production". I was unsure what this meant; is it the musical arrangement, the recording quality or something else?

It is both the musical arrangement and the quality of recording. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:40, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Possibly worth spelling that out in the article, perhaps? Tim riley (talk) 13:41, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

I know that what you are saying is not wrong, but the critics write it that way. I mean they do not go into details, so that may be interpreted as my original research by some reviewers. That's why I did not elaborate on it. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 15:09, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

That's an entirely fair point. Why don't you see what other reviewers say about this (if anything) at FAC? (En passant, please let me know when you put the article forward for FAC and I will certainly add my support.} Tim riley (talk) 16:33, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Sure Tim. I will see how things come about there. And yes, I will inform you. :) Thanks for everything. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 16:36, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi. I noticed that Tim was helping you with this. I can confirm that most encyclopedia readers will not be sure what you mean by "production" as it is sometimes used throughout this article. Can you use wikilinks or anything else to try to clarify what you mean when you say, for example: "Its production ... is accompanied with strings". Does this simply mean that the song is accompanied by strings? It will be very helpful to readers for you to clear this up. You also say that critics were unimpressed with the "production". Did they dislike the arrangements, the balance between singer and musicians, the tempi, the vocals, the playing of the musicians, or what? Hope this helps you clarify this for your readers. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:19, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. This was really helpful. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 00:39, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Those are the only points that struck me. Your article seems to me to be first rate; Ms Knowles is fortunate to have so scholarly and assiduous an admirer. Tim riley (talk) 11:43, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you wholeheartedly. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:41, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Heyyy

Got an oppose for S&M's lead. :/ Aaron • ^{You Da One} 12:56, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Saw it. :S It's not only for the lead. It's partly because of the lead (according to the reviewer). Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:58, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Yeah well, in effect. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 16:03, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes. :) There may be more. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 16:04, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

To be honest, he has opposed on 5 such tiny things, like unlinking a word, or changing one word, that in my opinion aren't oppose worthy. But you know, each to their own. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 16:15, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Lol, I think you should not tell this to me. :) Say it to the reviewer. I saw the reviewer left some suggestions. Jivesh1205 (Talk)

Lol what's the point? I just get told I'm being rude, combative and not engaging with reviewers. I'm online btw. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 16:19, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Hmm. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 16:21, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

OMG I've just seen something that has really annoyed me. :@ Aaron • ^{You Da One} 22:13, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

What happened? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 00:38, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Hey tell me. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 15:51, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

I'll be online in a few minutes. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 15:53, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Okay. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 16:05, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Are you alive

???:) — Tomica (talk) 17:22, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Kind of. But I seem lifeless since Monday. :( Jivesh1205 (Talk) 17:35, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

What's happening Jivesh?:S — Tomica (talk) 17:39, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

I did not get the results I was expecting. I got 3A, 1B and 1C. My parents are not happy and that's making me more uncomfortable. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 17:42, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand really the grades, but did you pass? Or? You should take them again? — Tomica (talk) 17:44, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

I passed but I will take them again. I am not satisfied. Never expected B and C. :( Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:14, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Auuh Jivesh... Don't worry, you will make them better. :) ! — Tomica (talk) 18:33, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the encouragement Tom. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:35, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Don't let Wikipedia get in the way of your academic performance Jivesh. Take a break and focus on your studies. :-) —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 18:36, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Penguin. Wikipedia will wait for you. Take your time as longer you need. We are here to help also. — Tomica (talk) 18:38, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

You are both right but Wikipedia was not the reason for my underperformance. It was something else. Something more personal. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:41, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Faceboooook:) ! — Tomica (talk) 12:08, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

hey

come online. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 12:30, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

come online Aaron • ^{You Da One} 12:49, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Just to say hi

:P — Tomica (talk) 11:06, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Hey how are you? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:32, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I am fine. You? Hope great. Did you see the performance? — Tomica (talk) 12:35, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Fine thanks. Yes, I saw it. Lol. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:38, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

I stayed until 3 AM to watch this performance and I don't regret at all :)! Btw come to Facebook. — Tomica (talk) 12:39, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Look what I accidentally found, Cole and his gorgeous mom :) ! — Tomica (talk) 14:25, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

So cute. :D Jivesh1205 (Talk) 17:15, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Collaboration

Hi Jivesh. Looks like the Grammy Awards were in Adele's favour, no surprise there. I've been thinking: I'm really desperate for a collaboration on a Beyoncé article, seriously. Are you willing to team up with me on an article so that we can eventually co-nom at FAC? The only problem is which article, as all of them are pretty much GA quality. Ideas and accept? Thanks. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 19:38, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

How about this; You can take "Sweet Dreams" or some other article that I should have taken. And I'll work on I Am... World Tour for GA. What do you say about it Jivesh? And thanks about the award. :D My love is love (talk) 01:13, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

WP, I am so happy to read this. Listen, what about choosing between "Crazy in Love" and "Sweet Dreams"? Well, I would have loved to concentrate on SD now because CIL is a mess. But WP, I have no problem if you want to work on another article. Really. :)) And you are welcome Darko. :D Jivesh1205 (Talk) 04:38, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

How much work does "Sweet Dreams" need? If it isn't so much, then I don't think me co-noming would be very good since I would be taking more credit than I should be. Thanks, My love is love, by the way. Apparently Efe is going to work on "Crazy in Love". —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 18:32, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't know for sure if he will work on it. Please ask him. Don't want to talk to him. Anyway, I still feel SD needs some work but yeah, i think it does not need that much. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:45, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Hey let's work on SD please. I am sure you can contribute considerably to it. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 19:12, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

It's a deal! Are you online? —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 19:43, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Great. :D And yes but not for long. I hope you like the song? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 19:45, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

It's a really catchy song. I was going to ask you about a school project I'm presenting tomorrow. We've got to pick a music video and deconstruct it and how it adds to the song's lyrics and tone. I chose the Grammy-winning "Someone Like You". Orane's not online right now, so I was going to ask you: Adele crosses the Pont Alexandre III bridge in Paris in the video, which is ironic because it is an extremely romantic landmark in the city and she is now single (in the video). How would this enhance the song's effect? —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 19:51, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

No problem, it's cool. I figured it out after. You're welcome for the corrections. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 10:48, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

I already submitted it to my prof. He said I did really well though. It is assumed that he goes to the Pont Alexandre Trois to reminisce about her past relationship. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 18:25, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Comment on my proposed changes?

Hi. I had a disagreement with User:Journalist on changes I made to 21 (Adele album). I'd appreciate if I could get some comments to the talk page post opened, where I'm at step zero and proposing the changes. Comment? Dan56 (talk) 05:48, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Re: User page

Aw, thank you so much! I try my best! — Status {^talk_contribs 12:02, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

LMFAO. Grammy ban? — Status {^talk_contribs 12:06, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

FAC

I've added my support, which was entirely merited. Well done! Tim riley (talk) 20:54, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Lady Gaga PR

Hey, Jivesh. Lady Gaga has been up at peer review for a while now. With your expertise, a FA-level review from you would greatly benefit the article. It'd be appreciated if you some time to spare, as another editor and I would like to take it to FAC someday. Thanks! Auree ^★★ 03:29, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes huge huge huge fan, why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lolcakes25 (talk • contribs) 13:02, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes, just looked at it, your whole page is amazing, so many awards etc! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lolcakes25 (talk • contribs) 13:07, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

What do you mean I can join. Sorry i'm kind of new, did have an old account but stupidly let my brother use it who vandalized everything and got me blocked indefinitely, this account is about 5 days old so i'm a bit lost again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lolcakes25 (talk • contribs) 13:10, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I understand now and added myself --Lolcakes25 (talk) 13:20, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Hey

Something needs to be done about someones reviewing skills, or apparent lack of. I just read an article that was recently passed and it is flooded with mistakes. It even passed without issues being addressed. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 13:44, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Also, 4 has been nominated for GAN? Did you know about this? Aaron • ^{You Da One} 15:06, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Which one? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 15:19, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Which one what? Aaron • ^{You Da One} 15:27, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Which review and who? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 15:31, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Not saying publicly lol. I email you. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 15:32, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Come online. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 15:41, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi

I just wanted to say good work on the artists articles! I am editing alot of different articles but right now mostly the new Murder of Casey Kearney article. Take a look if you got the time.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:32, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Someone help me please

[User talk:Richhoncho#Blue by LeAnn Rimes|This guys trying to get me blocked.]] and hes hounding me on my talk page. Cause he don't want to listen. Swifty*^talk_contribs 14:35, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

It seems to be a case of harassment. Did you report him/her? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 15:30, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't know where to go to do it. Swifty*^talk_contribs 15:32, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

To tell you frankly, I have never reported someone. So I don't know. Ask User:Kww, he is very nice and helpful. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 15:33, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

K thank you. Swifty*^talk_contribs 15:34, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

You are welcome and will always be on my talk-page. :D Jivesh1205 (Talk) 15:38, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Oh my

I saw that message from you on my talk page months ago, and I terribly wanted to write the synopsis, yet there was no way. I'm so sorry. --ĈÞЯİŒ 1ооо 18:34, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm going to be editing for as long as I can find time. Anyway, loved the video, and it in turn made me love the song. The chair dancing was too good, seeing as she was pregnant. --ĈÞЯİŒ 1ооо 18:40, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

I feel like this is a kind of a more personal album, something for her, not for the media and charts. It's her second best album to date and if the general public fails to realize that they're missing something from their album collection, all I can say is enjoy your grotesquely inconsistent Rihanna albums and see ya' later. At least the critics saw that '4' was something special. --ĈÞЯİŒ 1ооо 18:56, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Oh, please. The Grammys are run by a bunch of racist old men. I didn't even watch it this year. --ĈÞЯİŒ 1ооо 19:19, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Goodbye, and I will surely try. --Cprice1000 Talk That Talk to Me 19:23, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Lol, totally agree with this user on 4, the Grammys and Rihanna. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 20:52, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

I am so happy when my wiki-friends recognize the value o f a strong album like 4. :D Jivesh1205 (Talk) 05:54, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Mauritius question

Do you know what the capital of the Moka District is? Is it Moka or Quartier Militaire? I've found websites that say both. Thanks, BCS (Talk) 22:36, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

You know how there are nine districts in Mauritius? See the page Districts and dependencies of Mauritius. It lists the Moka District with its capital at Quartier Militaire. BCS (Talk) 13:57, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Nevermind. I'll ask Kingroyos. BCS (Talk) 14:01, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

"I Was Here"

Hello Jivesh,

I'm Danyale. I am very new to Wikipedia and frankly wouldn't be here if I didn't have a composition class that's focus is on the Wikipedia editing process. Anyway, I am working on an assignment to take a none featured article and make the proper changes so that it is in line with the Wikipedia "featured article criteria". In my opinion this article is already worthy of, at least, a nomination but I know that this is not really the case. Anyway, I'm going to fail this assignment... probably. Can you tell me, what do you think could be added to this article to better align it with the "featured article criteria"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danyale Green (talk • contribs) 22:18, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi, nice to meet you. I did not really understand your query. You want it to be an essay of FA quality? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 10:02, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Why

I can't see you online?:) — Tomica (talk) 13:45, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Re: SlayHa

Huh? — Status {^talk_contribs 16:24, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Oh, THAT. Omg... don't even get me going... If I said what I was really thinking, I'd get banned. I can STAND those types of things. I have no problem at all with gay people, but that just drives me WILD. — Status {^talk_contribs 17:15, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Wait a sec... pictures were posted? *tries not to go look* — Status {^talk_contribs 17:44, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

SD

I think she has never performed the song during her tour. The only performances I know are from the EMAs and I Am... Yours. My love is love (talk) 19:03, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I'll continue. My love is love (talk) 13:13, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Hey

I wish you was online. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 22:48, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

What happened? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 04:31, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Are you here? Come online. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 11:53, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Legolas2186

How could I reach him at this moment? I think you know what deep shit he's in right now with the articles. He needs to be notified or he could risk losing the FAs he's written and an indefinite block. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 18:26, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

He is not coming back. Not a joke. This place has become fuck as hell. I am fed up. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:29, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

What do you mean he's not returning? —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 18:30, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

What's happened? Aaron • ^{You Da One} 18:30, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Well people here doubt everything you do. They are like if they know more than you. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:33, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Did he literally say he's not coming back? Things can change if he gives himself a chance. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 18:35, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Penguin, for the last time, he is gone for good. And I will be gone too. I have lost interest in editing. People can suddenly move from tombs to music and overshadow you. I have had enough. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:37, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Do you mean he was caught out for making stuff up so he's left? The Rambling Man (talk) 18:42, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

No. I mean someone raised concerns about his editing. He felt bad and it's natural. I think he has better to do than see people moaning about his excellent work. He is not losing anything. Wikipedia lost a great editor. I cannot handle these Mr. Know It All. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:45, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Hold on, I wasn't the one who raised the issue with Legolas' edits. It appears that many sources he used don't exist. It would be better if he could just come back and tell us that they did. His absence is unfortunately being taken as an admission of guilt. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:47, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Did I ever say it was you? And why should he come back? This place will ruin all of us. And tell me, are you always so authoritative? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:49, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Okay, perhaps I was unclear as to who you were addressing when you responded to my last post by calling me "Mr. Know It All". And no, not authoritative. I have experience in many areas of Wikipedia, but never claim authority. I work hard as an editor and that's all. So ask Legolas to prove the community wrong. And realise that whenever I provide comment, it's to make this place better (for the reader) which sometimes makes it worse (for the editors). Get over that, we need to work hard to do our best for our community. If you disagree, then perhaps this isn't the ideal project. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:53, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

I never pointed to you. Now if you think that title fits you, I cannot add anything. I also work hard as an editor and that's all. Except that some people are impossible to get along with. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 19:04, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Well who knows who you were addressing then. In any case, we all have to work hard to get along with people whose opinions are different from our own, it's a simple case of "that's life", and an essential part of making articles at Wikipedia better. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:06, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, only if that person also listens to you instead of imposing his opinion on everything. There is not necessarily something wrong with me. It might be you. I have never gone through what I am going since a few days. We have different opinions and I cannot handle your character but I will deal with the situation more calmly as from now. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 19:09, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Ok, if you can't "handle" my "character" then we should work on it. I know you're a decent editor, and I hope you believe the same of me. We disagree on things, that's no problem, it's part and parcel of Wikipedia. I hope we can work together in the future. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:12, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Welcome all to the real Wikipedia, the corrupt and bad faith "encyclopedia". Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 19:15, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Maybe I went a bit too hard. Sorry. Yes, we should find a way to get along. Thanks for whatever you said about me. I hope it came from your heart. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 19:16, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Don't you worry for a moment about me. I've been stalking, hated, hunted etc for this role I volunteer for. I understand how it goes. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:18, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Great. I hope we will befriend each other some day. :) Jivesh1205 (Talk) 19:19, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia overwhelms all of us at times, maybe more so me. I've seen people quit because of how poorly run they feel this site is. But remember--we have a shortage on people who actually know how to write about songs, so please re-consider leaving. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 19:20, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes Penguin, I will. :) Jivesh1205 (Talk) 19:22, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

We can work on "Sweet Dreams" tomorrow or this weekend. I've got time, but it is limited (so many assignments and crap!). —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 19:26, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Of course but you can take your time. :D Jivesh1205 (Talk) 19:27, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Let's just do our best to get on. All the best. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:41, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

SD

Done. My love is love (talk) 13:34, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Re:Help

Huh? Bruvtakesover (T|C) 15:29, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, I would suggest asking a more experienced hurricane editor :P Bruvtakesover (T|C) 17:36, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Hink or biskit. Bruvtakesover (T|C) 18:11, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Lol lol lol lol

at something. Will tell you tomorrow. Well, today for you! :P Aaron • ^{You Da One} 00:34, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

come back online lol Aaron • ^{You Da One}

Come online. Aaron • ^{You Da One}

Thanks

Thanks for reaching out to PhoenixJHudson. He'll have to respond on his talk page if he responds, because he has been blocked for violating his restrictions again. I know it may look like I'm being harsh with him, but I really am just trying to give him an avenue back to being an editor again after being blocked for nearly two years. He's not going to be able to work well here until he learns to discuss things, and learns that sometimes the material he wants to add just won't get included in an article. Any help you can give is appreciated.—Kww(talk) 14:52, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

That's pretty much where we are. He was blocked indefinitely Sept 19, 2010 (as Iluvrihanna24), and I unblocked him last week with some restrictions. He hasn't been following them. He was told that we would get blocked for a week for the first violation and a month for the second. So far, I've been blocking less than that.—Kww(talk) 15:36, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 February newsletter

Round 1 is already over! The 64 highest scorers have progressed to round 2. Our highest scorer was Grapple X (submissions), again thanks mostly to a swathe of good articles on The X-Files. In second place was Tigerboy1966 (submissions), thanks an impressive list of did you knows about racehorses. Both scored over 400 points. Following behind with over 300 points were Ruby2010 (submissions), Cwmhiraeth (submissions), Miyagawa (submissions) and Casliber (submissions). February also saw the competition's first featured list: List of colleges and universities in North Dakota, from Ruby2010 (submissions). At the other end of the scale, 11 points was enough to secure a place in this round, and some contestants with 10 points made it into the round on a tiebreaker. This is higher than the 8 points that were needed last year, but lower than the 20 points required the year before. The number of points required to progress to round 3 will be significantly higher.

The remaining contestants have been split into 8 pools of 8, named A through H. Round two will finish in two months time on 28 April, when the two highest scorers in each pool, as well as the next 16 highest scorers, will progress to round 3. The pools were entirely random, so while some pools may end up being more competitive than others, this is by chance rather than design.

The judges would like to point out two quick rules reminders. First, any content promoted during the interim period (that is, on or after 27 February) is eligible for points in round 2. Second, any content worked on significantly this year is eligible for points if promoted in this round. On a related note, if you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which would otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 00:00, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

RE: Welcome

Thank you so much Jivesh!! Let's just say I'm not the "newest" person at this. HINT: UhOh ;) 68.161.141.205 (talk) 15:44, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Re

I know what that's like and it's hard, but most of his concerns, however nitpicky, will remain actionable in the eyes of the delegates. I really recommend you take the higher road on this one, and if you really do feel it's become a conflict on interest, notify the delegates. Good luck, and I hope my comment wasn't offensive. For what it's worth, I thought something odd was up: I know you're one of the more civil members around here, so I was a bit baffled when I noticed the tone of your responses Auree ^★★ 16:25, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Jivesh, I was really surprised too. The FAC was actually going smoothly until your harsh responses. I think patience will help you co-operate with reviewers and much of his comments are reasonable. Your comment on the reviewer's talk page was also quite rude. Sorry to sound insulting and I do not mean to be, but don't you want this FAC to pass? You worked hard on it, so now's not the time to lose it. Best, —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 20:27, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

hi, "yada yada yada" comes from a TV show "The Yada Yada", but it's used to mean "and so forth" - all the things I don't want to bother to repeat, etc. In other words, in the article just continue on with what ever you were saying ("yada yada yada") after you make whatever correction the reviewer was suggesting. e.g. yada yada Or you can look up other definitions. I agree it isn't the best of wording in an article review comment. MathewTownsend (talk) 21:30, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Reading over the comment again, I'm not sure what he means regarding your article. MathewTownsend (talk) 21:37, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Penguin, I know him and you don't. So please, know the facts before telling me I was harsh and insulting. I am not trying to be rude to you because I really care for you and you are my friend. Thanks. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 04:24, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

@Mathew, his comments are beyond understanding. Don't even try to understand him. You will get nothing but a headache. I wish good for you and that's why I am advising you to ignore him. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 04:28, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks wholeheartedly to both of you for the copy-edits you did yesterday. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 04:32, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Telling him to go away and leave you alone is unhelpful and grossly unnecessary, when all he's doing is reviewing an article to bring it up to FAC standards. He's not hounding you and you can't convince me that he is. It's not a matter of knowing him or not. Your remarks were irrelevant to the actual FAC. You got aggravated with the Rihanna FLC too without reason. As for the FAC comments, I'll try me best to address most of them. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 18:32, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I try my level best to control myself but I am not able to do it lately. I feel like telling people everything directly. But yes, I know that it will not help Penguin. Thanks for your advice. And thanks for fixing the issues on the FAC. I am losing interest. I should stay away till he is around. Thanks again for helping. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:35, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

At least unbold your "support"s at the FAC for the delegates' sakes. It makes their job a lot easier. That's all I'll say on the subject. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 18:43, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Sure. See you later. Take care. May God bless you. :) Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:48, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

You too! —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 18:50, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Are you working on Two hearted River's queries? Just asking curiously. He asked for responses on quite a few yesterday. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 19:46, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

I will reply to him soon. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 02:45, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Back on your case, but you've got to kindly drop the demeanor at the FAC page. It would help so much for you to remain patient. Don't get frustrated without good reason. Things like "your POV" and "I don't care about Metallica" are unnecessary. His points are valid; try and co-operate instead of dismissing. You'll be fortunate.

By the way: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Beyoncé_Knowles#Help_please. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 15:33, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

I cannot tolerate him but as you have seen, I am trying to deal with him. Calmly? Well, maybe not but at least I am not being wild like the other day. I am not among those who only eat the cake. I bake and eat it. Lol. Thanks for letting me know someone has replied. I have so many articles (other than Beyonce's) on my watchlist that I often miss certain things. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 17:30, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

It's not conventional to eat batter. If it's OK with you, you can take a break and if he has further concerns, I'll address them. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 17:37, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Lol, and yes, I would appreciate that. Sincere thanks. 17:46, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Re: Ask

Area of disturbed weather is not the official term though, and is only used in TWOs, and yes I am British Bruvtakesover (T|C) 11:58, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

WOW *o* Thank you so much, Jivesh! I'm really doing my best to improve the article as hard as I can! Again, thank you. :D By the way, I can't wait for the music video! - Saulo ^{Talk to Me} 05:00, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Well, it really was crap. XD But anyway, I love the song! I mean, I do think that Britney is awesome, but I have always loved Beyoncé (I have all of her albums and listen to them everyday) and the R&B genre. I don't like male R&B singers that much, I just like a few Usher and R. Kelly tracks. But I also love "Right Here (Departed)" by Brandy. - Saulo ^{Talk to Me} 11:47, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Lol True, but the problem is that today his songs are mostly dance (damn you, Max Martin!). - Saulo ^{Talk to Me} 11:58, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

:O I wondered why they were doing so bad when they are amazing tracks! How come I didn't heard about this before? The Top40 radio only spin Dance/Pop songs now? - Saulo ^{Talk to Me} 12:05, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Well, then there is a good and bad side about this. The bad side is that not everyone will hear those singles because the general public mostly listen to Top 40 radios. But we must agree that "Love on Top" was lucky, because that performance did an amazing job and made the song peak inside the Top 20 in the US. And I must say that I actually prefer people to buy albums than singles, because that means they will get all the songs. That's why Beyoncé sold over 2 million copies this last year, even with small promotion when compared to her standards. Beyoncé is an albums artist, if you know what I mean. - Saulo ^{Talk to Me} 12:15, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

That's impressive! :O By the way, I thought Beyoncé was going to release "End of Time" as the next single... - Saulo ^{Talk to Me} 12:23, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

I have only heard a few, but the first one is really cool! It's not too distant from the original song, that's why I like it. And I hope she does record the video here too. But I hope there isn't some kind of curse or something because she taped the Put It in a Love Song video here and it was never release (I'm still waiting for it to leak!)... :( - Saulo ^{Talk to Me} 12:32, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I do! :D And you have no idea how Beyoncé is huge in here. Haven't you heard that 4 went triple platinum here on the day it was released? And her team was really smart, because there is always one song of hers that is featured on a soapopera here (I don't like soapoperas, but they are huge too. I don't know why, but they are like the CSI from the US mutiplied by ten if you analize the viewers), and that's why the public keeps requesting and buying her albums. Her DVDs also sell like crazy. And I haven't seen any Bee flash-mob here yet. :( But I'm going to search for them on YouTube (if there is any there). - Saulo ^{Talk to Me} 12:48, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

That flash-mob was really cool! And yes, "1+1" was featured on a soap opera called Fina Estampa. It was even included on the soundtrack that was released to promote it. - Saulo ^{Talk to Me} 13:00, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Well thank you! I mean, I really do love Beyoncé. I love her and Britney since I was 4 years old, and I have never understood why the fan bases hate each other so much when both singers clearly don't. By the way, I left Rihanna's Wiki Project because I'm currently focusing on Britney's articles, but if you need any help on any Beyoncé article, just ask. :) - Saulo ^{Talk to Me} 13:11, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm glad I met you online too! Lol You are very kind too. I'm going to edit a few more pages now, I'll talk to you later if I have any questions or comments. - Saulo ^{Talk to Me} 13:24, 5 March 2012 (UTC)