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World War I memorials

Tremendous work on this article...thanks for making Wikipedia that much better! 86steveD (talk) 19:41, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Henry II of England/GA1

It's done .. sorry for the delays, it's been a wild week here. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:48, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

No need to apologise - its not been a light review! I'll start working on it when I get back from London tomorrow; thanks for all the efforts so far, Hchc2009 (talk) 18:16, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Where are we on this? I've been fighting a cold/flu/whatever for the last week or so, but we should probably get out butts in gear on this. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:28, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm behind schedule on it; I need to put some proper time into it tomorrow morning. There's a similar unpleasant bug doing the rounds over here as well... Hope you're on the mend. Hchc2009 (talk) 16:30, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Should get to the paperwork on this tonight or tomorrow... Ealdgyth - Talk 21:13, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Just one little query on the review page... Ealdgyth - Talk 18:40, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Donjon

Please, I am not finished with that. I must take this out, that is a pure non-sense.Nortmannus (talk) 09:30, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Happy to help if I can. The current information comes from Robert Liddiard, who's a specialist in the field, but there may well be other variants as well (there usually are with the origins of words!). What's the source of the alternative you're suggesting? (e.g. a book, an article etc.) We can easily note that there are other views if there's another decent source suggesting the alternative. Hchc2009 (talk) 09:34, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

I am sorry but Robert Liddiard who is probably a good historian (I do not know him), never studied linguistics. If he did it, he would not have commited such a mistake. All the etymology dictionnary say about the same, except those who prefer a Germanic etymology, that is less probable.Nortmannus (talk) 09:46, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Could you give a book that we could cite alongside him as an alternative sourcing? Hchc2009 (talk) 09:55, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

(Sticking my oar in as this affects at least one article I work on...) For what it's worth, I don't think Liddiard is on his own in describing donjon as a "corruption" from Latin as I think D. J. Cathcart King has stated something similar. That said, as Nortmannus pointed out I don't know if either has a background in linguistics. I'll try to track down Cathcart King's book to see if he gives a reference. I wouldn't object to noting that other sources suggest something different, as long as those sources are provided. Nev1 (talk) 09:56, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Agree - I know there are others who follow a similar line. The key is always having good quality sources for each of the interpretations. Hchc2009 (talk) 10:11, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

So:

• Liddiard (and some others) state "The 12th century French came to term them a donjon, a corruption of the Latin dominarium or lordship, linking the keep and feudal authority."
• The webpage dictionary says "Issu du lat. vulg. *dominio, -onis subst. masc. attesté au xies. au sens de « tour maîtresse » sous différentes formes (domnionus, donjo, dangio, etc. ds Du Cange, s.v. dunjo; Nierm., s.v. dominionus et Hollyman, p. 97), dé", which I don't think is in contradiction to Liddiard, whose just being more specific, as dominarium comes from domininio? (NB: my French/Latin isn't perfect though!)
• Is the gallo-romance bit from Hoad? Hchc2009 (talk) 10:20, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

gallo-romance is in other sources (related to the fact that the stem dominio / -ono does not exist in other Romance languages). Yes, there is a contradiction : the suffix -arium is another thing and shifted to -aire in French. Moreover dominarium : where does it come from ? It is in no Latin dictionary. Otherwise most phonetic changes are regular : saying "a corruption of the Latin dominarium" is wrong.Nortmannus (talk) 10:43, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

I've shifted over to the Keep talk page to keep the dialogue together. Hchc2009 (talk) 10:51, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

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Royal Artillery Memorial ACR

G'day, I'm not sure if you've seen my comments (or the those of the other two editors) at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Royal Artillery Memorial. Are you in a position to respond to them? If you disagree with them, please let me know and we can discuss. I'd be more than happy to support the article for A-class once they've been implemented or commented upon. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 09:04, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, incompetence on my part! I agree with them and will get on make the changes... Cheers, Hchc2009 (talk) 18:22, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

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These may look familiar...

While exploring our articles on medieval France I discover that Battle of Mirebeau and Battle of Roche-au-Moine have been copied straight from your article on King John. American Idiot1 (talk · contribs) who create the articles was blocked for copyright violations soon after the articles were created, but they were never fixed. Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia states

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Adding a note on the talk pages and in the article histories would be enough attribution in theory, but I'm not sure simply copying and pasting from John's article is going to be that useful. I'm also suspicious of Anglo-French War (1202–1214) as some of the phrasing is off, but haven't yet found proof that its been copied. Nev1 (talk) 18:28, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

• It's not ideal, but I've stuck a note on the talk pages with the origins of the material. Basically agree with your suspicions on the Anglo-French war - some of it feels like its been copied, but one or two bits are so badly written that they must be original. Hchc2009 (talk) 08:22, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Windsor Castle

Hi. I noticed this article has yet to appear on Main Page and wondered what you thought of the idea of requesting it to do so on 4th June 2012? --Dweller (talk) 18:31, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

It hadn't occurred to me actually. Whereabouts do such requests go? Hchc2009 (talk) 18:18, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Two ways. Either directly to Raul654, the FA director, or to WP:TFA/R. If the latter, you'll need to follow the complex rules there. Do you like the idea? --Dweller (talk) 00:11, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Mixed feelings. On the one hand, the idea of shepherding an article through its "day in the sun" on the front page doesn't fill me with joy (my mental picture is one or two good improvements from a couple of editors, combined with hundreds of acts of vandalism/insertion of trivia etc.!) On the other, the reason I write articles here is so that people can enjoy reading them, and this would be good timing for Windsor, given the jubilee. I guess the bottom line is that I wouldn't actually wish to propose it myself, but if someone else did I would support them on the day by keeping an eye on the article. Hchc2009 (talk) 18:10, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Some of "my" articles have attracted lots of vandalism, but I've found that plenty of admins and other editors are usually watching - and indeed there have been some improvements made / interesting comments on talk pages. On the other hand, some of mine have sailed through seemingly un-noticed. Perversely, I prefer the former: as you say, I'd rather my articles were read!

I tell you what - I'll drop Malleus and Nev a note at M's talk page (where I raised this first) with a view to asking Raul's opinion. If it does need to go to TFA/R, my nomination would be a disadvantage - last time I looked, there's points available if the nominator hasn't previously nominated an article there. --Dweller (talk) 19:20, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan. :) Hchc2009 (talk) 19:21, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Idiot, I am. <smacks head> Elizabeth II recently passed FAC and is in the pending list at WP:TFA/R. Sorry for wasting your time. --Dweller (talk) 11:29, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

No problem - I'll let Her Majesty lead the way on her special day! :) Hchc2009 (talk) 17:34, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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John Sherman Cooper

Just a note to let you know that John Sherman Cooper, an article you commented on when it was up for A-class review at WP:MILHIST, has now been nominated at FAC, if you would like to comment. Thanks. Acdixon ^{(talk · contribs)} 14:01, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

May Revolution

I have nominated the article May Revolution for FAC at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/May Revolution/archive4. As you made a review of the article in the past, it would be useful if you could check it again, as it is an obscure topic outside of Argentina and previous nominatons did not atract enough reviewers. All comments are welcome. Cambalachero (talk) 02:05, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

6th Machine Gun Battalion (United States Marine Corps)

G'day, Hchc2009, sorry to bother you. If you get a chance, would you mind taking another look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/6th Machine Gun Battalion (United States Marine Corps)/archive1? The nominator, Kb butler, has made a few changes to the article. Would you be able to see if they have addressed all of your comments? Currently the article has two explicit supports for promotion to A-class, but it needs one more if it is to be successful. As it has been open since 19 February, it is probably due for closure shortly. (Disclaimer: I'm one of those supporting it). Cheers, AustralianRupert (talk) 07:38, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Château de Chinon

While I'm reviewing Henry II, would you consider having a look at Château de Chinon at GA? Hawkeye7 (talk) 09:37, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

yep, will do. I'm reduced to editing via iPhone until thursday, but will get unto it then. Thanks for the work on Henry! Hchc2009 (talk) 12:24, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

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In case you missed it, I've suggested on the talk page a paragraph based on Bermicourt's comments regarding topography a few months ago and your thoughts on the matter would be welcome. By the way, thanks for carrying out the review of Château de Chinon, the comments were helpful and led to the article improving. Nev1 (talk) 19:28, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

World War I memorials article

World War I memorials is a tremendously impressive article (which I failed to find for far too long). Thanks for writing that. I have some of those books, and might have attempted something similar one day, but not for quite a while, and it wouldn't have been nearly as good. One thing I looked for, but failed to find, was something on the CWGC memorials to the missing. Some more linking is also possible (e.g. Stone of Remembrance, Monuments aux Morts and List of Commonwealth War Graves Commission World War I memorials to the missing in Belgium and France). There is also The King's Pilgrimage (though I'm biased there, as I wrote that). Anyway, I noticed you've done a couple of articles on WWI history, and wanted to point out this page on the Wikimedia UK site, in case you weren't aware of that. I'd really like to see more effort made to bring together those editing on WWI topics. Carcharoth (talk) 02:24, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Not sure if you saw this message. I know sometimes messages immediately followed by another one (as below) can get missed, so just adding this follow-up. I was going to point out the WWI task force in the Military History WikiProject, but I'm assuming you already know about that. Carcharoth (talk) 04:28, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi! Have been running around a lot with work, so didn't get the chance to reply. Glad you liked the article - its a fascinating area. I'll get those links you've suggested incorporated. I think the Wikimedia proposal sounds really promising - I'm hoping that it builds up some steam over the coming months. Hchc2009 (talk) 18:12, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply, and no worries as I know it can take a while sometimes to get round to replying. I too am hoping the WM-UK proposals take off. There is an editathon in June that I've just signed up for. Not sure if you'd be interested in that, but I nearly managed to miss it, so thought it best to mention it. I do have one request, if it is not too much trouble. Would you have a list anywhere of the books you have on memorials, as there are some I suspect you have (or have access to) that I'd like to ping you about if I get stuck on a particular topic. I should make a list somewhere at some point of the books I have, but finding the time is difficult... Carcharoth (talk) 23:47, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Your Wikichevrons

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Thanks Dank! Hchc2009 (talk) 16:34, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Whoops

Sorry for forgetting to notify you, but I mentioned an article you wrote for the Bugle here. Regards, Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 18:59, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

No problem at all. Congrat's on the new job Ed! Hchc2009 (talk) 19:00, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks :-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 19:33, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Petre ACR

Hi mate, if you have a sec, can you check all actioned to your satisfaction here? Still on ACRs, I made a few comments at Henry II, but nothing too problematic... Tks also for the Bugle op-ed, we can run it in June's issue. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 07:55, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Changed to support on Petre; hope all's well. Hchc2009 (talk) 19:18, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Your A-class award, sir

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Thanks Dank! :) Hchc2009 (talk) 20:22, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Girton college review

Hi there. About a year ago you made a review of the article [Girton College]. I have addressed most of your issues. Would you mind making a quick review? 81.157.148.188 (talk) 15:23, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Of course, will take a look at it later. Hchc2009 (talk) 15:41, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

I've had another look at it; to be honest, a lot of the issues from the first review haven't yet been dealt with, including some really important ones, like the sourcing issues. I'd recommend that these are addressed before it goes back up for review. If I can help at all with these, drop me a line here. Hchc2009 (talk) 19:55, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Hchc2009. Disregarding the sourcing issues, could you please point out which issues have not been addressed? 109.148.78.206 (talk) 16:09, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Have a look at the first review under 2.a and 2.b, and Images a and b; I don't think any of these have been addressed. Hchc2009 (talk) 16:13, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Interview?

Hi Hchc, I hope this message finds you well! Would you like to contribute to a new Bugle 'Article writers' guide' on buildings and fortifications? If so, please do so here. Thanks! Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 05:52, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Also, on a related topic, I'm finding it hard to come up with a title for your op-ed. Did you have one in mind? (if not, I should be able to come up with one after sleeping) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 06:04, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Good question. How about "Remembering conflict"? And yep, happy to contribute to the interview. Hchc2009 (talk) 17:23, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Well, "War and Remembrance" has been taken... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 23:56, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

"The Memorial Strikes Back"? "War and Remembrance II: This Time It's Personal"? :) More seriously, how about "Physical culture and conflict"? Hchc2009 (talk) 06:10, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

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Are you going to work on this one, Hchc? Would you prefer me to post on WT:MILHIST and find someone else? There isn't much to do, but I can't keep it on hold too long. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 10:07, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Apologies, I'd meant to cover this during the week... I'll sort this evening - thanks for your patience! Hchc2009 (talk) 16:34, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Castles in Great Britain and Ireland

Nominated for GA. Superb work, it has FA potential I think.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:03, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Cheers! It was a fun article to write. Will keep an eye out for the reviewing... Hchc2009 (talk) 17:33, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

A fine piece of work, and I'm glad to have had the pleasure of promoting it. Please make sure you follow up the outstanding minor quibbles on the review page or I shall nag you intermittently. Tim riley (talk) 16:37, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for all your work! :) Hchc2009 (talk) 17:10, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Can you address Tim's remaining points? I sniff FA but I think it needs a lot of work yet..♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:06, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Yep, can try to take a look at them. Hchc2009 (talk) 20:11, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Your op-ed

Interesting stuff - I just wondered if any of our publicity for the Wikimedia UK WWI Editathon reached you, there was an interesting presentation there from Dr Edward Madigan from the Commonwealth War Graves Commission about how to present history in the public eye. He's also interested in doing more Wikimedia work in future, maybe I should find a way to introduce you sometime... The Land (talk) 21:12, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

The publicity got to me, but I wasn't around that day unfortunately. Edward's recent book looked really interesting though - would be interested in meeting him if the opportunity arose. Hchc2009 (talk) 21:15, 23 June 2012 (UTC)