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Thanks for your contribution to this article, but I wish to discuss your second edit: surely it is more appropriate to list Sisu/Valmet's company names as they were in the 1960s than how they are now? That's the Wikipedia standard, I believe. Lukeno94 (talk) 16:38, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Lukeno94. The links are correct. Valmet was a big state owned corporation that was completely restructured in 1980s and 1990s. The Valmet shipyards went to Wärtsilä in 1986, wheeled machines went together with Sisu-Auto forming Sisu Corporation. The Valmet paper mills and some other heavy stuff remained; this part of Valmet merged with Rauma company and nowadays it's called Metso. I think Valmet Automotive, the former Saab-Valmet, is the only company in which the name remains. But this was always just another branch of Valmet (originally a joint venture with Saab), it had nothing to do with the tractor production.

When the Valmet tractors became part of Sisu their badge was changed to Valtra. Valmet diesel factory in Linnavuori, Nokia became Sisu Diesel. Sisu Corporation was later chopped again and both Valtra tractors in Suolahti and Sisu Diesel became part of AGCO. The name of the diesel company is now AGCO Sisu Power and it is the same company with the same heritage that built the Valmet diesels. I don't really understand why do we have articles for Valmet tractor and Valtra. They are the same company. --Gwafton (talk) 20:09, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

• They may be the same company, but they have different names, so it's reasonably justified to have the two articles. If your edits have made the companies' names fit to how they were in the 1960s, then OK, I apologize - I'm not exactly hot on Finnish tractors for some reason... Lukeno94 (talk) 20:15, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

It is very complex sometimes as the ownership and structure of the Finnish industrial companies has changed for many times during the past decades. I know quite much about the Finnish industrial history and I'm glad to help in any of such questions if I can. --Gwafton (talk) 22:09, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

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• See my Revision as of 22:01, 21 August 2013, Åland to Finland, where were you before?, junger Mann, (Your Revision as of 21:13, 19 April 2013), I have restored your revision only, thanks,--PjotrMahh1 (talk) 07:01, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

See my reply on the talk page. --Gwafton (talk) 11:48, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

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Thank you for the specific words that you have written with your edit. Speling12345 (talk) 9:22, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

You are welcome. The source, however, is not specific enough in my opinion; the chapter and page numbers where the piece of information is collected from should be mentioned as well. Therefore, I don't find the source, as it is referred now, credible enough. Still it is more credible than no source at all. --Gwafton (talk) 12:18, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

I did not laugh at reading your reply. Speling12345 (talk) 4:46, 28 December 2013 (UTC)