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Administrators' newsletter – July 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2018).

Administrator changes

added Pbsouthwood • TheSandDoctor
readded Gogo Dodo
removed Andrevan • Doug • EVula • KaisaL • Tony Fox • WilyD

Bureaucrat changes

removed Andrevan • EVula

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC about the deletion of drafts closed with a consensus to change the wording of WP:NMFD. Specifically, a draft that has been repeatedly resubmitted and declined at AfC without any substantial improvement may be deleted at MfD if consensus determines that it is unlikely to ever meet the requirements for mainspace and it otherwise meets one of the reasons for deletion outlined in the deletion policy.
  • A request for comment closed with a consensus that the {{promising draft}} template cannot be used to indefinitely prevent a WP:G13 speedy deletion nomination.

Technical news

  • Starting on July 9, the WMF Security team, Trust & Safety, and the broader technical community will be seeking input on an upcoming change that will restrict editing of site-wide JavaScript and CSS to a new technical administrators user group. Bureaucrats and stewards will be able to grant this right per a community-defined process. The intention is to reduce the number of accounts who can edit frontend code to those who actually need to, which in turn lessens the risk of malicious code being added that compromises the security and privacy of everyone who accesses Wikipedia. For more information, please review the FAQ.
  • Syntax highlighting has been graduated from a Beta feature on the English Wikipedia. To enable this feature, click the highlighter icon () in your editing toolbar (or under the hamburger menu in the 2017 wikitext editor). This feature can help prevent you from making mistakes when editing complex templates.
  • IP-based cookie blocks should be deployed to English Wikipedia in July (previously scheduled for June). This will cause the block of a logged-out user to be reloaded if they change IPs. This means in most cases, you may no longer need to do /64 range blocks on residential IPv6 addresses in order to effectively block the end user. It will also help combat abuse from IP hoppers in general. For the time being, it only affects users of the desktop interface.

Miscellaneous

  • Currently around 20% of admins have enabled two-factor authentication, up from 17% a year ago. If you haven't already enabled it, please consider doing so. Regardless if you use 2FA, please practice appropriate account security by ensuring your password is secure and unique to Wikimedia.
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:22, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Dog meat sock

Sorry I didn't view the history on that one. I was in a bit of a rush to do the shopping. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:14, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

No worries. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:31, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

WindowClockLady/Dopenguins

Can you revoke WindowClockLady's talk page editing privileges, if they haven't been already? Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 14:00, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Done. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 03:43, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

I responded to your Admin report

I have responded to your report of my account to Admins and updated my talk page. Please do not post on my Talk page ever again. If you'd like to reach out to me you may do so in private using the contact link I left on the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jhabdas (talk • contribs) 06:46, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

...that's not how this works, Jhabdas (talk · contribs). Especially for petty reasons related to edit warring. tedder (talk) 15:17, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Gogo, I created a sock investigation for this. tedder (talk) 15:33, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Okay then. I hope the investigation goes real well. By the way I was in contact with the author of BitWarden. Turns out they can't get BitWarden listed on Wikipedia either. Conspiracy? You be the judge. Perhaps they should just pay for notoriety so Wikipedia folk will allow them the visibility they deserve on the list of password managers—where they'd already been listed for almost a year before being removed arbitrarily. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jhabdas (talk • contribs) 07:39, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
WP:CONSPIRACY -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 19:17, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Likely socks

[1] and [2]: EnglishEfternamn?

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:34, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

It's okay. Never mind. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:52, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Never minding. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 16:51, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Hola

Disculpa no fue mi intencion editar tu pagina, me preguntaba si podrias ayudarme hacer una pagina como la tuya para mi banda saludos — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ponyville Recording (talk • contribs) 05:49, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Hola

Si podrias ayudarme a crear una pagina como la tuya ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ponyville Recording (talk • contribs) 05:51, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Please note that this is the English language Wikipedia, not the Spanish language Wikipedia. Your account has been blocked, but I still recommend that you read the document on creating your first article. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 19:19, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

LTA

Why did you block Fff12221? For what I saw it looked quite constructive, adding flags at the right places. L293D (☎ • ✎) 15:06, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 15:12, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on Maria L. de Hernández article

It was really getting slammed. 174.58.152.148 (talk) 06:44, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

No problem. Thank you for fending off all of those edits. I was wondering why it was being targeted. Thought it was some stupid 4chan raid, but then I saw the WP:RFPP entry. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 06:46, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2018).

Administrator changes

added Sro23
readded KaisaL • Ymblanter

Guideline and policy news

  • After a discussion at Meta, a new user group called "interface administrators" (formerly "technical administrator") has been created. Come the end of August, interface admins will be the only users able to edit site-wide JavaScript and CSS pages like MediaWiki:Common.js and MediaWiki:Common.css, or edit other user's personal JavaScript and CSS. The intention is to improve security and privacy by reducing the number of accounts which could be used to compromise the site or another user's account through malicious code. The new user group can be assigned and revoked by bureaucrats. Discussion is ongoing to establish details for implementing the group on the English Wikipedia.
  • Following a request for comment, the WP:SISTER style guideline now states that in the mainspace, interwiki links to Wikinews should only be made as per the external links guideline. This generally means that within the body of an article, you should not link to Wikinews about a particular event that is only a part of the larger topic. Wikinews links in "external links" sections can be used where helpful, but not automatically if an equivalent article from a reliable news outlet could be linked in the same manner.

Technical news

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:31, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Hey Hey It's Saturday

Hey Hey It's Saturday is being targeted by an IP hopping vandal who keeps introducing word bloat and American spellings into an Australian English article. "favorite" and "meager" instead of "favourite" and "meagre" for example. Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 07:16, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 03:02, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

A goat for you!

Thank you for taking care of the troll

EvergreenFir (talk) 05:57, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

No problem. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 06:18, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks

The Admin's Barnstar
Thanks for reverting the idiot on my talkpage. :-) 2601:1C0:4401:24A0:4195:3E83:675F:1D2 (talk) 06:08, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
No problem. And thank you for the barnstar! -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 06:19, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

My Editing

Dear Sir, Thank you for informative suggestion. My editing is for informative purposes. Please keep in mind the right of freedom of expression. My efforts are not to promote but to present facts. In future I will follow Wiki guideline more closely. I rarely edit Wikipedia. I hope great Wiki team will keep my presence. Kind Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pakistansenate (talk • contribs) 06:28, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 06:35, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Message from Webdexter

hi , why did you undo my edit ? XD — Preceding unsigned comment added by Webdexter (talk • contribs) 15:20, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:23, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Message from Kimani joseph

thanks for your welcome.i wish to meet more colleagues .would you connect — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kimani joseph (talk • contribs) 15:25, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

/* External links */

¿cuál es tu criterio? El enlace introducido habla de Proth y su labor en el campo numérico. No he visto ninguna referencia a esto en la página que dices. ¿Entiendo que se deben mejorar las páginas, no? Si encuentras algo interesante ¿qué haces con ello?. Me cuentas — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikola90madrid (talk • contribs) 19:31, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 02:59, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

ThaddeusEstrella

This makes me think of two things:

Nyttend (talk) 02:12, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Yo Dodo

It is so nice to see your name again in Recent changes, doing all kinds of helpful things. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 03:14, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

@Drmies: Thanks! It's good to be back. That nap was way too long. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 03:21, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

PRL

It was a real word that is used at those communities, i think it may help the people knowing the real meaning of PRL and be aware of it's different meanings — Preceding unsigned comment added by Name1111 (talk • contribs) 03:00, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

@Name1111: Wikipedia just cites, summarizes, and paraphrases professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources. Saying "it's real" doesn't mean squat. Trying to defend that kind of nonsense is only going to result in a block for trolling. Ian.thomson (talk) 03:04, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

i am not trolling, and i am doing my best to write in English which it is not my mother language. so please stop correcting my grammar mistakes and show some respect for my efforts and i know that this term a bad one so i tried to explain it on the site to aware people, as they making fun of me once — Preceding unsigned comment added by Name1111 (talk • contribs) 03:11, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

@Name1111: No one said anything about your grammar, this has nothing to do with grammar. I've taught hundreds of ESL students and they all had a harder time catching on to slang terms like "trolling" and "meme-lord," so it's a little weird that you do.
But assuming you're telling the truth, you still need to find a different topic to work on. If you have to use the phrase "meme-lords" in an article, you're writing about something that does not belong on Wikipedia. Ian.thomson (talk) 03:33, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Imran Khan and his association with spread betting ( gambling)

Sir, Why you considered my cited info on Imran Khan as not reliable. All words were authentic as words in Urdu in the cited Utube interviews of Imran Khan and also part of his own book. I apologize, if you don’t understand Urdu, but this info has encyclopedic value of his views on spread betting, buy/selling stocks and gambling; as he is in position to enact laws in Pakistan. I would appreciate you relook and advise specifically where you question reliability. Thanks 

Adl786 (talk) 06:58, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Replied on your talk page. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 03:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2018).

Administrator changes

added None
removed Asterion • Crisco 1492 • KF • Kudpung • Liz • Randykitty • Spartaz
renamed Optimist on the run → Voice of Clam

Interface administrator changes

added Amorymeltzer • Mr. Stradivarius • MusikAnimal • MSGJ • TheDJ • Xaosflux

Guideline and policy news

  • Following a "stop-gap" discussion, six users have temporarily been made interface administrators while discussion is ongoing for a more permanent process for assigning the permission. Interface administrators are now the only editors allowed to edit sitewide CSS and JavaScript pages, as well as CSS/JS pages in another user's userspace. Previously, all administrators had this ability. The right can be granted and revoked by bureaucrats.

Technical news

  • Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 12 September and 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour.
  • Some abuse filter variables have changed. They are now easier to understand for non-experts. The old variables will still work but filter editors are encouraged to replace them with the new ones. You can find the list of changed variables on mediawiki.org. They have a note which says Deprecated. Use ... instead. An example is article_text which is now page_title.
  • Abuse filters can now use how old a page is. The variable is page_age.

Arbitration

  • The Arbitration Committee has resolved to perform a round of Checkuser and Oversight appointments. The usernames of all applicants will be shared with the Functionaries team, and they will be requested to assist in the vetting process. The deadline to submit an application is 23:59 UTC, 12 September, and the candidates that move forward will be published on-wiki for community comments on 18 September.
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:23, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

HuffPost

I've dealt with the socks, let me know if you see similar edits in a few days so. Doug Weller talk 07:47, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: Thanks! -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:24, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Page protection

Hi, can you protect the Khalid of Saudi Arabia page? Thanks. -KH-1 (talk) 08:48, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

@KH-1: Sorry that I missed your request. I see that you got it taken care of. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 01:41, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Why do you remove my links?

All links a relevant and they include topical articles. The resource that I linked is a powerful authority website in philately. You just waste all my work for Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaccatuk (talk • contribs) 21:58, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:21, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Block

You might as well block this lad while you're at it. Thanks a bunch. WikiPancake 06:12, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Done! -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 06:29, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

A beer for you!

hi thanks for undoing my hard work, you need a drink to chill <3 Issey22 (talk) 06:13, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Northwind band from Greece

Northwind: Greek Heavy Metal band from the '80s which released two albums; Northcomin' (1982-Vertigo-Polygram) and Mythology (1987-EMI). Re-release of 'Mythology' in vinyl (2018-EMI). (Members: Con.J.Papadimitriou, Kostas Nikolaides,Panos Tsakiroglou, Ath. Tsimoudis — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.38.145.131 (talk) 13:08, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

I will tell you the same thing I told you four years ago:

I suspect that this is a case of two bands having the same name, one that might be notable and one that was clearly not notable back in 2011 when the article was deleted. I checked the website for Polydor records and there is no Northwind group listed, so I can not verify if it is the same band as the one deleted in 2011. The band whose article I deleted back in 2011 was clearly not notable at the time because it was newly formed and had released no records. It appears to be some teenagers' brand new band. The name Northwind (band) is not a particularly unique name, so having two bands with the same name is entirely plausible. Going back to the band you are referring to, you are welcome to create an account and write a new article about the band, but there is no reason for me to undelete the article from 2011 as it was clearly non-notable at the time of deletion and there is nothing salvageable from the deleted article. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 17:26, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Nothing has changed from that response. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 14:50, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of "Talk:Roger Franklin (journalist)"

Dear Gogo Dodo,

WOT?? My genuine & beautifully crafted effort to help "build an encyclopedia" is no more! By the way, do I qualify as a newbie?? If so, am I (& my work) therefore exempt from being bitten?? Is this my 'get out of gaol free' card?? ;-)

Anyway, on a slightly more serious note (& with details for other readers), I acknowledge the "G8. Pages dependent on a non-existent or deleted page" policy rationale for the deletion. However, this policy specifically "excludes any page that is useful to Wikipedia". I deliberately wrote the page to be highly useful to Wikipedia by (hopefully) acting as a seed for the creation for a long-overdue article on Roger Franklin, a highly notable Australian journalist/author/editor who crafts the online version of Quadrant, one of Australia's most venerable conservative cultural/political/literary magazines (& one which was formerly secretly funded by the CIA).

Significantly, he has also been the focus of a national scandal when he speculated upon the virtues of a possible terrorist-type bombing and consequent butchering of the cast and audience of Q&A, one of the national broadcaster's (the Australian Broadcasting Corporation's) most prominent live TV discussion programmes. This was apparently because he despised the way some of these people exercised their freedom of speech to state opinions he didn't agree with (where have we also encountered these sort of terrorist lusts in recent history?).

If this journalist was a Muslim, the article on him would have been written long ago in a white heat of mass outrage. As things stand, I have tried to (hopefully) attract the interest of other editors in collaborating on the building of a suitable page by creating a talk page (with links from other related pages) which outlines some initial points of notability and suggests a possible prime source for details & citation. It is a pity that all that work is currently lost to Wikipedia and yet more worthwhile links that were once blue are now red (you'll notice I'm not an fan of Deletionism, along with these people).

So, in order to help "build an encyclopedia" with at least one more important article, I would be grateful if you would please un-delete this talk page and allow it to stand with the addition of a "G8-exempt" template (like the one below) so that it can remain undisturbed until the article on Franklin is finally written. This encyclopedia is, after all, a work in progress. :-) {{G8-exempt}}

I hope this proposal will have your support. If you have any other suggestions, I'd be very interested to hear them. Cheers! 110.22.191.65 (talk) 04:34, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

My deletion of the orphaned talk page was correct. You didn't quote the rest of the relevant part of the G8 criteria: "in particular deletion discussions that are not logged elsewhere, user pages, user talk pages, talk page archives (except article talk page archives where the corresponding article and main talk page have been deleted and the page is not otherwise useful to Wikipedia" Since your talk page was neither of those items, the deletion was correct. An orphaned talk page is not the correct place to incubate an article. If you wish to incubate an article, I suggest that you create an account and create a Draft. Or if you don't want to create an account, you can add it to Wikipedia:Requested articles/Biography/By profession#Journalists. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:50, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
I'm afraid we might have to agree to disagree on this issue, but let's see. Regarding the logic of your deletion decision, I had previously read and taken full note of the the additional G8 criteria you quoted (it would have been a bit silly of me to quote the entire passage). The additional criteria, including the ones you quote, are a subset of possibilities to which G8 policy does not apply. This does not logically preclude the retention of other pages not covered by these criteria because G8 clearly states that the policy "excludes any page that is useful to Wikipedia". The word "any" is operative here, because the talk page I wrote IS useful, therefore I believe there is clear, logical path within the G8 policy that justifies the retention of the page.
The fact that I have attempted to used a novel method of new article incubation is not relevant, and I don't know of any reason why this method would not be legitimate (if you can enlighten me, I'm all ears; call me Dumbo). I have simply followed the exhortation to "be bold" (WP:BEBOLD) in order to "build an encyclopedia" and I continue to act in good faith.
Anyway, I can't agree with the logic of your decision but I'm not going to go down the rabbit hole of arguing the point. I still hope you will accept the legitimate logic of restoring the page and you will seriously reconsider your decision. If you can't do that, then I need another way to retrieve the deleted page's text so it can become the basis for a new article & talk page. In this case, I need your help to retrieve the text because I don't know how I can now access it. What do you want to do? Cheers! 110.22.191.65 (talk) 15:29, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
I have already reconsidered my deletion and I will not be restoring the talk page. An orphaned talk page is not the proper place to incubate an article. I rechecked your deleted talk page and I see nothing there except the Media Watch external link that would be helpful in creating an article that you have not already expressed to me here. I suggest that you copy the same information into Requested Articles since your posts here and in the talk page have been more of a request than the actual start of an article. I believe that you will be able to make a sufficient draft article or request without the deleted text. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 15:42, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you!

I love the people who spend their time cleaning up our best source of shared knowledge! Thank you so much! Mkettleson (talk) 00:06, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

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