User talk:Elinruby/Archives/2023/January

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scope_creep^Talk 04:34, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the kind words. I just put up a pending tasks comment on the talk page. If you did the rating or can see the rating feel free to add to it; this is a good article on fr.wikipedia and there's no reason it couldn't be here. How did I submit the article for consideration, btw? Elinruby (talk) 05:05, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

I found the grading scheme. Elinruby (talk) 05:07, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Happy new year in advanced

Dear, Elinruby, What's your thought on renamed Dha hanu Region for the Aryan valley . Because dha hanu region is a Historical name aas well as it has been sometimes used by an recent articles too . But it is true that Aryan valley is Mostly used by the government and others Nowadays . We need to search how many articles have used dha hanu region ,if the dha hanu region is used more than Aryan valley then my thought is that Dha hanu is a comment name then we should Renamed the Aryan valley as Dha Hanu region . However Aryan valley name will also be included in dha hanu region . Please tell me your though, Thank you Minaro123 (talk) 04:42, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Does Dah Hanu refer to exactly the same villages? Elinruby (talk) 05:13, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Dha hanu is a twin villages that is Dha and hanu. While 'Dha hanu region' refers to the four villages as mentioned by some articles .

But we need to make maintain two pages, one is dha hanu region . And another is dha hanu . We need to first collect sources to see how many articles and source have mentioned dha hanu region ,after that we can decide Minaro123 (talk) 07:41, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

@Minaro123: sorry to be slow to answer. I typed out a long answer about my understanding of the jurisdictions, then my battery died... It was pretty similar to what I said on the talk page of Aryan Valley though, so let me answer a different way, from the rules rather than by trying to understand the facts. Not that the facts aren't important; we are trying to accurately portray the facts, right? But to answer your question from the rules perspective, in general an article about an area is supposed to use the WP:COMMONNAME. This is a tricky call in this instance, especially with no knowledge outside of working on this article with you. It is not correct that everything needs to be in the article about each village. Those editors are working from a misunderstanding of policy because of their POV. Consider Napa Valley and Silicon Valley, though. These are names that apply to a region that contains several municipalities. I consider Aryan Valley a kind of special enterprise zone. Whether Dah Hanu refers to all of the villages or just two of them seems to me like it was a matter of the point in time, but that is what I am understanding from you. Does that help? Elinruby (talk) 16:55, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Just to say thanks

Hi, I just wanted to drop in and say thanks for the advice and guidance you gave me on Talk:Firehose of falsehood regarding Wikipedia policies and norms, how to propose, discuss and implement appropriate changes, etc. It inspired me to do a lot of reading about Wikipedia policy and procedures. I really learned a lot in the process, and I appreciate the patience you showed in explaining things to me.

I haven't read up on barnstars enough to know whether or not one would be appropriate, but I just wanted to let you know I appreciate you taking the time to help out, especially seeing as these kinds of contentious topics can be stressful to get involved with.

I was my first conflict and I was genuinely pretty disillusioned, on the cusp of giving up on the whole idea of becoming an editor, but your calm and neutral advice spurred me on. For the future, I plan to do my best, try to make constructive improvements, stick around, and continue learning.

I've made quite a lot of changes to the article now. If you ever have some spare time, and fancy reviewing the changes and giving some feedback, I'd love to hear your thoughts. Either way you've already done a lot and I really appreciate it.

Thanks again for your kind patience and all the best! ShabbyHoose (talk) 22:21, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

I really appreciate you taking the time to pen this note. Warm fuzzies all around.Elinruby (talk) 02:06, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Just a ping to @ShabbyHoose: as I should have done at the time to be sure he/she saw my thanks. This note came to me at a time when I was quite discouraged myself about something else and really, really, did me a lot of good. So thank you very much, and never hesitate to do this kind of stuff ;) Elinruby (talk) 21:36, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Closing small tags

I think you forgot to do so, in this edit. I've closed it for you here; I think it's where you intended it to be, but if not, feel free to move it. Thanks! Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 19:24, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, @Writ Keeper:, I appreciate that. I will check. I was trying not to add too much explanation to something I had already said was overly complicated. Elinruby (talk) 19:31, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Hi, not creating a new thread but I will appreciate if you can file whatever you are filing against me at ANI (or elsewhere) after the dispute with VC resolves. Which ought be in the next couple of days (I guess) with Uanfala actively looking into the issue. Obviously, you can draw on VC's thread for pointing behavioral similarities or whatever you feel; just that, I am not in the headspace to tackle two simultaneous disputes. Regards, TrangaBellam (talk) 17:13, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

I just now noticed this request. I would be just as happy to try to discuss this with you. I don't know if you noticed, but another dispute blew up. I am only peripherally involved but it is big and ugly and *absolutely* is intractable behaviour that will never change unless he is blocked, which he already has been on two other wikis. It's sort of not up to me, but (speculating) maybe you believed something K3 told you in error? I appreciate the courtesy of your request and would be willing to attempt to discuss at least, and Minaro3 just wants to be allowed to work, I am pretty sure. I am willing to do the necessary coaching and explaining to him. Let me know your thoughts. I am deep in the middle of something else that requires concentration and many open windows, so I probably won't take a look for your answer or check on that complaint until tomorrow sometime, just to give you a time frame.Elinruby (talk) 17:35, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

As long as Minaro123 does not disrupt the article-space, I offer no objections. But I do oppose edits like this claiming Mint (newspaper) and Open (Indian magazine) to be "unreliable sources". TrangaBellam (talk) 14:59, 18 January 2023 (UTC

@TrangaBellam:, You too have removed by edit cited by international reliable newspaper like BBC and The hindu .I removed the statement because of two reason: first the statement was a critisim ok Aryan valley and it's inhabitants and second The Mint is not mentioned in reliable newspaper as per wikepedia. Please don't just tell the one side of a story and please don't be good in someone eyes. Minaro123 (talk) 15:31, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Hi, E. Please feel free to open a thread discussing my edits at AE (preferred due to the structured discussion format; or, AN -?) at a time of your choice. I did not expect that your acceptance of my request would entitle Minaro123 to run roughshod over the article reverting me, JJ and K3 under spurious excuses! The sanctity of content is of paramount importance. TrangaBellam (talk) 21:36, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Reminder re: translation

When copying or translating content from other articles or other Wikipedias, as in this edit at Administrative police (France), don't forget to include attribution. Even if the whole thing is inside <!-- comment delimiters >-->, and even if you delete it five minutes later and it never gets used or seen by anybody, you *still* have to provide translation attribution, per our ToU. To make it really easy, if the article in question happens to have an {{Expand language}} template at the top (as this one does), you can unroll template and there in the 4th bullet, you'll see a model attribution statement that you can copy-paste right into the edit summary. Cheers, Mathglot (talk) 08:13, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

I did that thirty edits ago . Unless I am missing something? I'm copyediting and referencing the translated text. If I missed this at some point when I brought the text over please be specific and I'll fix it Elinruby (talk) 08:26, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

The specific link is this edit at Administrative police (France). There's also this one, or this one. Mathglot (talk) 06:42, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Hmm, I was thinking I did this whole article from commented-out French. Apparently not though, or that doesn't get captured in the logs somehow. Ok. I need to verify that this is true, but I guess I will do a dummy edit that this is a translation of the entire administrative police article, and fr:ordre public was consulted (it currently has a translated template but I believe much of that was moved to my sandbox). Anyway, I'll look at remedying this later today. Elinruby (talk) 18:33, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

I did a big translation attribution dummy edit Elinruby (talk) 03:08, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

Dominican monastery, La Guardia de Jaén

Dominicans are not monks so don't have monasteries. Modern English does use "Convent", but for an older establishment "Priory" would be the more usual word. ("Friary" would be technically correct as well, although it's not often used for Dominicans). Ingratis (talk) 12:12, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Alright, thanks Elinruby (talk) 12:14, 25 January 2023 (UTC)