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References

Please use high quality references per WP:MEDRS such as review articles or major textbooks. Note that review articles are NOT the same as peer reviewed articles. A good place to find medical sources is TRIP database Thanks.

Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 16:47, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

refs are needed Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 21:59, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ebola !3 Sepptember Numbers

Hi Dernier there was a lenghty discussion about incorrect numbers and was discussed in a DRN as well. A desiccion was taken to correlate with all respective gioverments Since 26 August the WHO has reported the wrong death toll in the their report. This fault is carried forward in all WHO reports. Kind regards Brian BrianGroen (talk) 17:35, 17 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry a bit more clarification.. See notes at the bottom on 26 Auguct. The suspected cases were added up double and WHO keeps carrying that fault forward. Kind Regards Brian — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrianGroen (talk • contribs) 17:51, 17 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dernier this was extensivly discussed and even noted here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Talk:Ebola_virus_epidemic_in_West_Africa.23Semi-protected_edit_request_on_28_August_2014

There was also a lengthy discussion about the numbers on !0 Sept , but this is now archived. A consnsus was reached there as well.

The WHO reports is very erounios and it is not based on original research. The data is correlated with respective goverments from where WHo recieve there numbers. In the abscence of a reliable source the primary source may be used. This was accepted by the Wiki DRN volunteer.

Example the latest WHO 13 Sept report. Here is an extract. "1. COUNTRIES WITH WIDESPREAD AND INTENSE TRANSMISSION 4963 (probable, confirmed and suspected; see Annex 1) cases and 2453 deaths have been reported in the current outbreak of Ebola virus disease as at 13 September 2014 by the Ministries of Health of Guinea and Sierra Leone, and as at 9 September by the Ministry of Health of Liberia."

Clearly the numbers are for 9 Sept on Liberia. this cause a huge headache for statistician and those who do the graphs.

With regards to 26 August error. the case numbers were incorrect and there for updated in the latest WHO report on 31 August. Understandable WHO is swamped with work and do tend to make mistakes. Kind regards Brian BrianGroen (talk) 18:40, 17 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dernier that is exactly why i cited the reports on Sierra Leone. The accumulative total on that is 1603/511 as at 13 Sept and not 1620 as per Who report. The 26 August error on Who was corrected at a later date. This issue was discussed at length and is not based original research but rather factual reports from the respective governments. At first i took the same stance as you on the reports, but i was proven wrong. This even wemt to a dispute resolution and a consensus was reach that it is not original work but properly cited sources. Please see the note on the WHO report. "Data reported are based on official information reported by Ministries of Health." Kind regards Brian.BrianGroen (talk) 04:38, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]