User talk:DanMS/Talk Archive 03

Bisexuals

Welcome to the bisexual list, Dan. Keep up the good work! 62.64.237.213 22:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Dan

I've just seen an entry posted about me for your consideration - it was declined on the grounds of insufficient link evidence to verify the entry.

Well, as Ian Danter, I can tell you that whoever posted that seems to have it fairly accurate about me!!

You can check www.talksport.net for further verificaion or my personal myspace page www.myspace.com/dtkcat

Thanks,

Ian Danter

• I cannot find the relevant article. Can you tell me what page the article is on? •DanMS 03:48, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi Dan. I want to thank you for taking my request for the translation of the article about Pedro V. Maldonado (I never thought there were articles in Swedish and German as well!). Dalobuca 20:53, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Great Idea! Thanks again, Dan. Greetings, Dalobuca 19:06, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

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so who are you to claim that my edits to the emminent Dr. Everdell's wiki are "vandalism?" do you know him? do you know his accomplisments? do you know where he has been or what he does? how dare you? i happen to be a close friend of the Everdells. So unless you have better knowledge, then i would suggest that you leave other people's entries alone.

cheers, Robespierre2120

• Your statement that Everdell is “a giant robot” is clearly vandalism. •DanMS 02:20, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

have you met him?

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i also assert that my contributions (which you removed) were totally not vandalism. and that you hurt my feelings. :( Ragnarokmephy 01:28, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

they're on the Nowra, New South Wales page. and since i live in Nowra i can confirm that they're true, yeah. Ragnarokmephy 04:12, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

• I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings—that was not my intention. You should realize that Wikipedia gets thousands of edits per day from students about their schools or about other schools, the great majority of which are purely vandalism.

Perhaps yours was not strictly vandalism, but it is still a highly improper edit. It’s called POV (point of view), which means it is your opinion, and that is not proper for an encyclopedia, and it is not allowed in Wikipedia. Please see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. If you can find a reputable source, you may say something like “The school has been called a ‘hellhole,’” but you must provide a verifiable reference immediately following the assertion. Saying something like “all the students say so” is not a reliable, verifiable source.

Are you the same person as Robespierre2120? •DanMS 04:33, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

firstly, no. robespierre was a loser and i have no desire to name myself after him. also: i will own that st johns is not literally a hole full of hell. however you also deleted my edits made in the "youth activities" section of the page, and the truth of these can be verified with a quick trip to nowra on a friday night. have you ever been to the gorgeous little town? do come visit us, and bring a bullet-proof vest. - Ragnarokmephy 02:28, 7 December 2006 (UTC) sorry- that should read "fat monotheistic loser" Ragnarokmephy 02:02, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Reply re Columbia map

Is on my pageSkookum1 07:11, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Cooley

I know it's an Irish name, but it caught my eye when I opened your page; it happens to be a word in the Chinook Jargon which I sorta speak and which was the lingua franca of the Pacific Northwest, including for non-natives as well, for much of the 19th Century. In the Jargon it comes from courir in French, to run, or/also coulir, to pour (as does also coulee in English); yaka kiuatan yaka kumtux cooley "that horse he knows how to run". Man yaka kumtux cooley; "fast runner" - but both come from the sense of run "he knows how to run", meaning only "fast" in an idiomatic sense; "fast" is usually hyak/hayak/hyack, "fast", "swift", and used for "hurry up!". "That horse he knows how to run" means "that horse is fast" (see Hyack Regiment for a name-usage). Cooley was not adopted into local English as were other Jargon words (including my username) but I thought you might find it interesting. Once widely heard, I'd imagine, because of the popularity of horse racing in the pioneer towns of the region (where it was the No. 1 sport until the Great War/WWI).Skookum1 07:16, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

• Interesting that you should mention the word hyak. There is a ski area name Hyak on the east side of Snoqualmie Pass on I-90 in Washington. I wonder if the word comes from the same origin. I was born and raised in Seattle, so I know about having a lot of Indian names, as you do in BC (though I don’t speak any such languages). •DanMS 00:55, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

It's definitely Chinook: see List of Chinook Jargon placenames, which I created. I'm not sure if I put the ski area in the list; if not it should be added; I went through the www.topozone.com index searching for words I knew; there are still others yet to add to the list; the ski area should have been on topozone's USGS index and so on the list already.Skookum1 21:22, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Doing the French

Hi Dan.

Even though I have just married a French woman in France, I have a miserable knowledge of French. The work I did on the article was a mix of online translator and common sense. SilkTork 16:43, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Reply on Football on my page

Replied there.Skookum1 21:20, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Canadian Football League

Replying here now; here's the CFL's website: http://www.cfl.ca/. Vancouver's BC Lions just won the Grey Cup, which is our equivalent of the Super Bowl (only about around 10 teams in the whole league, though, if that many); college equivalent is the Vanier Cup. Many name American players play a few years up here, many stay on forever; apparently many US players like our rules better; whatsisname from Toronto - Ricky Williams - is up here because we don't piss-test our athletes; many come up here because it's a better place to raise kids...especially if you're African-American.Skookum1 22:31, 2 December 2006 (UTC) Just an after-comment, as it seems you're in Seattle...interesting disparity between x-borderawarenesses of the two cities; up here we'd know for damned sure if Seattle won the Super Bowl or what their standings are; but the Grey Cup here last weekend went by without a blip in the Seattle news, right? We're used to it, but it's a given that for Vancouverites Seattle is "our" team, too, in whatever sport (except soccer, and we tend to follow the minor-league Vancouver Canadians more than the Mariners.Skookum1 22:33, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

• Well, as far as cross-border awareness: Don’t go by my attitude. I am not a sports fan at all and I don’t follow any teams, Seattle or otherwise. I just asked the question, more out of interest in cultural differences than interest in sports. It has always interested me, how languages and culture separate people. I know that you Canadians sometimes feel threatened by the giant to the south and are wary of our (i.e. American) culture impinging on yours. I know that you also don’t like being taken for Americans when you travel abroad. But don’t feel too bad—some countries have it much worse. Small countries like Iceland—where I spent two years—feel much more threatened by all things American, especially movies and television, flooding their country.

By the way, I am not in Seattle now, although I was born and raised there. I live in Southern California now. •DanMS 22:45, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Lucky man - you're missing all the "good weather" this year. :-| Skookum1 00:22, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Caribbean Ambassador

Dan, thanks for your note. You have a good point, but as a software and database architect who's been dealing with similar issues for years, I can tell you that any time you can avoid explicit duplication and allow automation to take over, you save yourself and especially others many headaches. Let me explain my rationale.

Imagine that instead of shifting the text around, someone later attempts to update the information, revising it in the first location he notices, and then assumes he's done. (In this case, he might make the change at Barbados, for example, not noticing that it was preceded by a ref with the same name at Antigua and Barbuda.) The different refs would now have different text. Which one would get used? Maybe the newest text, maybe not, depending. Either the user won't catch the mistake, or, if he doesn't recognize it's cause, might pull his hair out.

If he does see the problem, either he'll follow your lead and copy the new version to each additional location, which is an awful lot of work to have imposed on him to make a simple change, or he'll decide it isn't worth the effort. In the latter case, this means that the reference text will no longer be consistent from one instance to another. Then, the next time someone else comes along with a revision, that person might rearrange the text in such a way that the first instance of this reference is one with the old text. What a mess! Then multiply that by the number of successive revisions that others might make to the same text as time goes on.

The way I've done it, revisions will involve considerably less work. If a contributor does make a mistake while reordering the page, it will be much more apparent, because the reference text will disappear from the page altogether. --Largo Plazo 22:57, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Silverstein

Sounds fair. It just seemed silly that the original "Silverstein" articles all were double-redirects. They all linked to a disambig page, which then linked to "Silber." It didn't seem right. But what you did is right, and I learned something new, haha. Thanks for fixing it. it really bothered me that there was no disambiguation page, even though it was linked to in a million articles. // 3R1C 22:16, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

United States Ambassadors to Cuba

Congratulations on your excellant improvements to the page United States Ambassadors to Cuba which are most appreciated.--Zleitzen 03:43, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks. I’m glad you like it. I had noticed earlier that you were the major contributor to the page and I wondered if you would be upset with my large changes. Sometime we all tend to take a proprietary interest in Wikipedia pages, even though we know we don’t “own” the page. •DanMS 04:01, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

The tetleys

If no notability is asserted, (releases through major labels, media coverage) then there's no reason not to tag with db-band , whether it's a hoax or not. Sticking a hoax tag on the article that has other reasons to be deleted, might cause admins to pass on deletion due to the "hoax exception" (hoaxes are supposedly excepted from speedy deletions). Basically, if a band or musician doesn't claim notability that would pass WP:MUSIC or WP:BIO, you can stick the db-band or db-bio tag on it, and skip any other warnings. In the case of "The tetleys" , there's like close to zero notability being claimed... they had to borrow guitars and amps ;-) Tubezone 20:04, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Fair use images

Hi Dan

I note that User:DanMS/Gallery includes fair use images. However, the use of such images outside mainspace articles (including on talk pages) is not permitted - please could you remove these images? Thanks! CLW 16:18, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that. There's at least one more which I'll remove now - hope you don't mind! CLW 16:44, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

The image is currently tagged as being fair use. If that's incorrect, it'll need changing. CLW 17:00, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Is Wil actually the copyright owner of the image? (If not, then he can't grant permission.) If so, take a look at the wording of the tags at Template:No rights reserved and Template:PD-release - do either of those apply? (Probably not - I'm guessing he has granted permission for use on Wikipedia, not for use everywhere and anywhere.) If not, you could try browsing Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and its subpages. However, if indeed the image is copyright Naära de Kwant-Tirion then it would have to be Naära de Kwant-Tirion that grants permission, not Wil himself. And that being the case, use under free use conventions might be the only option. Hope that helps - if not, try asking at Wikipedia:Village pump where there's bound to be someone who knows more about copyright issues than me. Good luck! Regards, CLW 21:09, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Copyright Infringement?

DAN, this is user Tristamus, and I see that you have marked my article on Aiello as a possible copyright infringement. I have paid in full for the information I have, and as I do now own it, am I not able to publish it to wherever I deem fit? What on my page is not clear to you, and what makes it a possible copyright infringement? I will check it to verify that it is not for you, if need be.

-Thanks, Tristamus

I posted the notice because you put the copyright notice at the bottom of the page. Wikipedia cannot have that information on the page as long as it is copyrighted. You can check to see if you have a right to republish the information, though. Copyright issues are problematic and not always clear. For example, when you buy a book, you own the book outright, but you have not purchased the rights to the text that is in the book. With web-based material, it is not always easy to ascertain the status of the information. I know this isn’t much help. You will have to find out from the website if you have the rights to post the info in Wikipedia.

Also, when you post a message on a user page, please sign your entry with four tildes: ~~~~. That ensures the recipient of the message that you are really the person who sent the message. ●DanMS 05:33, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

RE: User:Aeldaar

That's what I figured when I saw how he doctored the messages. You better report the user on AIV.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 05:45, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Your edit to Starrcade

I know you want to help, but results are supposed to be bolded. TJ Spyke 21:48, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Commonwealth of Nations

Thank you for your edits. Please note that it has been the Commonwealth of Nations since 1949, by their own official designation, which is the designation we use at Wikipedia, unless the reference is before about 1929 (British Empire) or roughly between 1929 and 1949, in which case we show text as BC, but link directly to the C of N, thusly: British Commonwealth (omit the colon in the link when in articles). Hu 11:40, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

I was here for another reason (below) but saw your discussion. The Commonwealth isn't quite 1949, it's at least 1954; at least in popular/official usage even if the Commonwealth had actually been formed by then; the reason I know about 1954 is because what are now the Commonwealth Games were held here (Vancouver BC) in 1954, and they were called the British Empire Games still; I think the end of the Empire can be pretty well pegged down to the consequences of the Suez Crisis (Britain never forgave Canada for what Pearson came up with, which is how we got pawned off to the US as their colony, instead of Britain's...) but I can't remember the details. The Empire Games, as they're called still on public buildings here (well, Empire Stadium got torn down, but...), were notable for the Four Minute Mile and also the launch of Doug Hepburn's powerlifting career (winning a gold medal in weightlifting with a club foot....). Note also that while it's Commonwealth of Nations now, it was originally British Commonwealth, so there's a date/name-change to account for there, also.Skookum1

Added Arcview sample to Columbia River discussion

Please see our previous discussion on my talkpage. Note that the second image might not survive GFDL review, but I posted it so you and others can snag it before its time is up ;-0 . I see you're a radar guy; I think, FYI, that ArcView is radar-generated, rather than topo-based.Skookum1 01:52, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Spelling

I had noticed the The War of the Worlds (radio) article has already used some BrE spellings so I didn't see a reason for the language to be brackish. That was why I changed some of the spellings. 71.106.163.65 04:15, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

RE:Giorgio Mainerio

Hallo Dan, I will do it during the coming weekend, is it ok for you?

Buona serata, Alex2006 16:35, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

KK, no problemo, I'll do that in future. So, Hhows the weathcer in the us, cold?

symode09 02:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Yep, great weathcer (is that the correct spelling) we just got back from holidy and missed all the rain etc. Missed a massive storm - mut i have never seen snow ore ice etc :[ i webt to the UK and there was no snow - in winter! cya

symode09 02:23, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

man go suck yu mudda dyam ignorant pig shit there is no 's' in FIFA its FOOTBALL you dunce —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.118.48.41 (talk • contribs) 07:55, 17 January 2007

Thanks For your editing

I'm a complete Wikipedia newbie, and I created a poorly formatted article / entry. Within an hour, you created a gallery, and formatted the page so that it looks good.

Can you tell me what the blue dotted line box is all about ?

I'm not sure how this all works, and if you are part of the Wikipedia admin, paid, or not, this is an incredible resource, and to have it properly formatted, so quickly... thank-you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kalmusky (talk • contribs) 00:13, 21 January 2007

• Glad to help. It’s all in the interest of making a better Wikipedia. Your article wasn’t really formatted so badly—it just needed a few tweaks.

The blue dotted-line box is caused when text on a Wikipedia page is what’s called preformatted text in HTML. In Wikipedia, that results from starting a line of text with a space, as in your line above starting with the words “I'm a complete...” When the Wiki parser encounters a line starting with a space, it will output text exactly as typed and not wrap the text around the margins as normal paragraphs are formatted. Try this: Edit the aforementioned line to remove the space at the beginning of the line, then save the page. You should see the dotted box disappear.

One more point: when you leave a message for a user like me, please sign your message by putting four tildes after your entry, like this: ~~~~. That lets the user know who sent the message. If you don’t sign your message, the user has to look at the edit history of the page to see who left the message.

If you have any more questions, please ask. I’ll be glad to help any way I can. ●DanMS 00:26, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

P.S. When you leave a message for a user, it helps to leave a link to the article in question. You could say something like “the Ken Kalmusky article.” ●DanMS 00:37, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your patience Dan, I'm learning ! Kalmusky 02:07, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

The Revols site for deletion

Hi Dan, I was wondering if you'd mind having a look at the changes I've made to The Revols article, and consider unmarking it for deletion.

I certainly understand why it was placed in deletion discussion, there was nothing there but 1 sentence. Hopefully I've brought enough information to the page, as I could only find 3 books with published information on this band, in my personal library. I've ordered 2 more books through Amazon, one that apparently has a chapter dedicated to The Revols, another that has several pages.

I've also contacted the son of Ken Kalmusky (The original bassist for the band) who provided me with the pictures that are up there now, he stated he's also got professional promo shots of the band, as well as live photos of them in concert, but he'll have to do some digging.

So, this page will evolve, I will help it do so, and contact others who were close, or involved with The Revols to contribute.

Hopefully, for now, I've placed enough content on the page, to remove it from deletion, I thank you for your time put into this, and all of your great editing work on this incredible site.

Qwepasdl 19:40, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

• The article does look good now. I have changed my vote to keep. I cannot close the AFD because (1) I was the nominator, and (2) I am not an admin. However I’m sure it will result in a keep because there are no deletion votes now.

By the way, if you are the same person as Czj, you must disclose that fact. Make sure you are familiar with the Wikipedia policy on sock puppets. ●DanMS 20:20, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

• • Actually, I'm not Czj - I am the same as user : kalmusky, I created the Ken Kalmusky article, and fixed The Revols article, as a complete newbie, not knowing anything about how this site works.

I picked a "username" originally, based around the fact that I work for David Kalmusky, however, when I saw how this site works... Using your username to credit your entries, modifications, and discussions, I quickly realized that the "Exposed" username, people might actually think I am kalmusky, or a kalmusky... so... feeling like an impostor, I created the user qwepasdl to continue my work on here.

I did not "Vote twice" between these identities, in the matter of "The Revols" I'm not sure who Czj is.

Any idea how I can remove the user kalmusky, or move the contribution credits to the user qwepasdl without loosing any of the content created by the first account I created? I know for argument sakes, an admin would be able to see the same IP address contributing everything from both user accounts.

Thanks again Dan, hope i'm not annoying you, but you're a very active user, and I've learned formatting, posting etiquette, how to sign my user info with tilds, all in 1 day from you... you're a pretty good resource to "follow around :)"

Qwepasdl 22:01, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

• First of all, thanks for your excellent edits on The Revols. It’s a very good article now. I hope you will stick with Wikipedia and make other such good contributions.

You are not annoying me at all—glad to help. I was not familiar with changing your user name but I read up on it. It says that “It is not possible for bureaucrats to merge two accounts, or to reattribute edits from IP addressses.” So I guess you will just have to live with it. I would recommend that you pick one name or the other that you want to stick with, and continue with that one. Make a user page and associated talk page with the other name and just make a note that refers users to the other page.

Regarding deleting your Kalmusky account: Again I had to search for this, but the answer is on the page Wikipedia:Username. It says “Accounts with contributions cannot be deleted...” So I think you are stuck with it. If you want to keep the Qwepasdl account, just put a note on the Kalmusky user page that refers to the Qwepasdl page. I did find this one interesting thing: On the Kalmusky user page, you can put this note at the top: {{Userpage otheruse}}. See the page Template:Userpage otheruse for instructions. If you want to do this, copy this and add it at the top of the Kalmusky user page: {{Userpage otheruse|Ken Kalmusky|Ken Kalmusky}}. ●DanMS 22:43, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks, I've done "Just that" with the Kalmusky User Page, and will continue with my current identity for all contributions. I will also try to comb the Help Desk for answers before I just pummel you with questions, I don't know how to associate articles with categories, create a table of contents, there is so much to learn, so I've started with some very basic, simple articles, to learn. as my main objective, is to contribute an article, that is VERY complex, with sub categories, a 50+ album discography, a ton of media articles, and reference material - and it's way too overwhelming of an article to build with my current newbie status, with your help already, and the help desk. I'll get there.

Thanks again Qwepasdl 22:55, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for Reverting the Babylon Bombs page back to it's original state after getting vandalised....It's Appreciated.(NendoShisu 19:54, 22 January 2007 (UTC))

Wheatley High School discussion forum

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:EL

This reads links "normally" to be avoided. There is no hard and fast rule. The message boards are linked from an alumni site anyway. WhisperToMe 04:58, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I think it is not an appropriate link for Wikipedia, as did a previous editor. But I am not going to fight with you about it. Do as you wish. It will probably be deleted again by someone else. ●DanMS 05:07, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

This was the first time I have ever seen a message board link deleted... WhisperToMe 05:09, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah - I felt like I needed a summary to explain what was going on. WhisperToMe 06:08, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Random Smiley

User:Pedia-I/SmileyAward2 Jerry lavoie 05:57, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Mate juanes chiris? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 144.32.128.155 (talk • contribs) 04:32 30 January 2007 (UTC).

Hey, it's about Colbert

I'm not sure, but from what I've read on what other editors are saying: I think it's about a guy called Stephen Colbert who mentions wikipedia articles on his show then a group of kids come and vandalize the place with "reality is a commodity" phrases. I don't watch the show, but I caught a guy in the act here. Hope that helps. --JDitto 07:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh, here's the explanation. Enjoy.--JDitto 07:46, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Django Reinhardt vandalism

What are you talking about? what did I vandalize?Accuse someone else.Robbyfoxxxx 21:02, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

• Please see this edit to Django Reinhardt. You intentionally introduced four errors in the page, which had to be corrected by the next editor. ●DanMS 01:27, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Why dont you look at the previous edits, someone else originally put in "2953" and "reknowned" the only mistake I made was to revert it to a previous version that had these mistakes, so once again Accuse someone else, thank you and goodbye.Robbyfoxxxx 16:04, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

• If you had used the edit summary to state that you are reverting to an earlier version, then this whole discussion and my original message to you could have been avoided. Lacking an edit summary, your edit appears to be vandalism. Looking through your edit history, I see that you rarely use the edit summary, which is very important to other editors. Now you know why. ●DanMS 00:50, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

And now you know why you shouldn't accuse people of vandalism before you actually look at the factsRobbyfoxxxx 19:56, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

User page

wait so can i put anything i want on my user page Trekdude31415 02:36, 3 February 2007 (UTC) 02:35, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

• You can put anything you want on your user page within reason, but the contents of the page are for projects related Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a personal web page for you to post just anything you want to show the world. Please carefully read Wikipedia:User page#What can I have on my user page?. There are a some points to remember:
  • Your user page and subpages are not private. Anyone can read and edit your page—although it is considered bad form to edit another person’s user page.
  • The content of user pages is subject to restrictions against libel, slander, defamatory content, etc. Such things will get you banned very quickly from Wikipedia.
  • The contents of your user page are subject to deletion by community consensus, just as any other Wikipedia page is—although the standards for user pages are somewhat lower than those for articles in the main Wikipedia namespace.
  • Anything you post on a user page is implicitly released by you under the GFDL, which in essence means anyone is entitled to copy it and use it anywhere.

●DanMS 02:58, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

hey dan!!! we might need your help.

Thanks for helping with A static lullaby wiki. we need your help. you think you can put some images in a static lullaby wiki? It looks kind of empty withitout pictures. please help us Dan. —The preceding --Andresfrias 08:26, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

• I’m not sure what you want me to do, but I’ll help with A Static Lullaby if I can. Have you already uploaded the pictures? If so, let me know what the names of the pictures are and I can put them into the article for you. ●DanMS 17:11, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Giorgio Mainerio

Hallo Dan, as I promised, I translated the italian article about Giorgio Mainerio. Now, in order to scrub away a certain italo-english patina, maybe would be good to wash it in the waters of Potomac doing some copyediting on it. ;-)

Have a nice day,

Alex2006 07:43, 5 February 2007 (UTC)