User talk:Cyberpower678/Archive 62
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Undefined
Hey! I tried to talk twice earlier (January 19, 2019 and October 2nd, 2018) and I don't know if you ever responded or if the messages got deleted but I was wondering about this edit you did on October 2nd, 2018 to the page undefined (Click here to see edit) or just go to the page Undefined and look into the edit history and look on October 2nd. For whatever reason, you deleted the entire page and wrote "green". I was just wondering if you recall this or had a reason to do this, thanks for reading. --Bluecrab2 (talk) 05:20, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Bluecrab2, it was a JS script malfunction.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 00:18, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
- Cyberpower678 Why were you using Java Script to edit an article like this? Did you not notice when you changed the page to green? Sorry, just trying to figure out what exactly happened so we can try to prevent it in the future --Bluecrab2 (talk) 05:31, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
- Bluecrab2, I wasn't. It's a status changing script that's supposed to update a page in my Userspace. But it edits undefined for some reason.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:48, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
- Cyberpower678 Is there anyway you can fix it so that it doesn't edit the Undefined page? --Bluecrab2 (talk) 01:06, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
- Bluecrab2, Sidestepping the fact that this hasn't happened in 3 months - It should be trivial to add something along the lines of if( $pagename != "Undefined" ) { dotheintendedthing(); }, I would think (or however that would look in JS)? As a safety? As this has happened 16 times in the last 24 months? SQLQuery me! 00:33, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- SQL, it's an old JS, and I assume the page variable is literally undefined that, when loaded into a string, produced "undefined". I have no idea why though.—CYBERPOWER (Be my Valentine) 00:40, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- Enterprisey, I hate to bother you, but you wouldn't mind looking at User:Cyberpower678/statusChanger2.js, would you please (I think that's the culprit)? I'm not even good with JS, and it appears that we're pretty deep in the weeds here. SQLQuery me! 00:47, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- I spotted a typo, which I fixed. Should be working now. Enterprisey (talk!) 03:13, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- Enterprisey, thank you! Hopefully the page editing won't happen anymore. --Bluecrab2 (talk) 03:43, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- Enterprisey, Awesome. If possible, any chance you can help convert them into drop downs for Vector like MoreMenus?—CYBERPOWER (Be my Valentine) 13:53, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- I spotted a typo, which I fixed. Should be working now. Enterprisey (talk!) 03:13, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- Enterprisey, I hate to bother you, but you wouldn't mind looking at User:Cyberpower678/statusChanger2.js, would you please (I think that's the culprit)? I'm not even good with JS, and it appears that we're pretty deep in the weeds here. SQLQuery me! 00:47, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- SQL, it's an old JS, and I assume the page variable is literally undefined that, when loaded into a string, produced "undefined". I have no idea why though.—CYBERPOWER (Be my Valentine) 00:40, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- Bluecrab2, Sidestepping the fact that this hasn't happened in 3 months - It should be trivial to add something along the lines of if( $pagename != "Undefined" ) { dotheintendedthing(); }, I would think (or however that would look in JS)? As a safety? As this has happened 16 times in the last 24 months? SQLQuery me! 00:33, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- Cyberpower678 Is there anyway you can fix it so that it doesn't edit the Undefined page? --Bluecrab2 (talk) 01:06, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
- Bluecrab2, I wasn't. It's a status changing script that's supposed to update a page in my Userspace. But it edits undefined for some reason.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:48, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
- Cyberpower678 Why were you using Java Script to edit an article like this? Did you not notice when you changed the page to green? Sorry, just trying to figure out what exactly happened so we can try to prevent it in the future --Bluecrab2 (talk) 05:31, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
Dean Ambrose
Hello there, can you please use User:InternetArchiveBot on Dean Ambrose per Talk:Dean Ambrose/GA1. I tried the tool multiple times but it fails to load for analysis, Thanks! THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 14:29, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
- Are you dead? THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 20:28, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) It is more likely that he has a life. --DBigXrayᗙ 20:33, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, that. If the tool times out, you can work around it by submitting a bot job instead with just that one page on it.—CYBERPOWER (Be my Valentine) 20:34, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) It is more likely that he has a life. --DBigXrayᗙ 20:33, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
The bot not update RfX tally. Hhkohh (talk) 19:58, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- Looks like it's updating to me.—CYBERPOWER (Be my Valentine) 20:24, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
InternetArchiveBot
Hi, I have a question about the InternetArchiveBot. When it changes something, it leaves a message on the talkpage. But why is there a link to the article in this message? I guess it is pretty obvious that when it is leaving a message on say the talkpage of Foobar it has edited the article Foobar, right? Muijz (talk) 20:43, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
(The above message was archived, but my question was not answered.)
- Because talk pages can redirect.—CYBERPOWER (Be my Valentine) 20:44, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
Page attention request
You might set your bot on the Flixter article, many of the URLs of which, since based on Facebook reporting, are reasonably expected to have died. Thanks. 2601:246:CA80:3CB5:1DFE:9D32:88DD:352 (talk) 22:25, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
Bot making a template loop
Can you check on why Cyberbot is making User:Cyberbot I/AfD's requiring attention transclude itself? I'm trying to clear it out of Category:Template loop warnings. Thanks, wbm1058 (talk) 23:04, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- Wbm1058, No idea. It might be best to ignore it and just wait and see if it fixes itself.—CYBERPOWER (Be my Valentine) 23:08, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- I think I'm to blame for this, because I redirected User:Snotbot/AfD's requiring attention, and the bot is following the redirect when trying to overwrite that page. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 03:24, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- Pppery, in that case, I reverted your edit.—CYBERPOWER (Be my Valentine) 03:27, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- No, there seems to be something else going on, as the first edit with a template loop predates my redirect edit by several hours. (Reverting my edit was still beneficial, as it was causing the bot to edit war with itself.) {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 03:35, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- The problem seems to be malformed AfD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/M. Santhi Ramudu, which was manually added to Category:AfD debates. I just reformatted the closure of that AfD to remove the categories. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 03:48, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- That was never properly opened. I reopened it properly (I think). The manual procedure here is much more complicated than the Requested moves procedure. I'm not surprised to see a malformed entry; I suspect malformed AfDs are relatively common. wbm1058 (talk) 04:23, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- Pppery, in that case, I reverted your edit.—CYBERPOWER (Be my Valentine) 03:27, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- I think I'm to blame for this, because I redirected User:Snotbot/AfD's requiring attention, and the bot is following the redirect when trying to overwrite that page. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 03:24, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
Although this turned out not to be the actual cause of the problem, why is is a good idea for Cyberbot I to overwrite all changes to User:Snotbot/AfD's requiring attention and User:Snotbot/Current AfD's? Over the six years since Snotbot was deactivated, users have periodically made edits to those pages, only to be reverted by the bot. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 04:34, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
There is the issue of unclosed formatting tags, (DIFF and DIFF), which should be easy to find and fix in the code. If the intent is for the Snotbot version of the reports to be an alternative version that uses big fonts to be easier on old eyes, then that should be made more clear. Thanks, wbm1058 (talk) 12:31, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
Request to mark all pages from a website as dead
Hello, since I can't change domain data on the IABot interface I would like to request that all pages from https://japakomusic.com/ are marked as dead. Trying any link to any page from https://japakomusic.com redirects to http://japakomusic.com/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi which only contains "This Account has been suspended". This is supported by this tweet [1] which states that on 22 July 2018 the company decided to stop their activities. Thanks, Redalert2fan (talk) 21:04, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
Adding a link to Ukrainian Wikipedia version of the bot
Hi, could you please add "Ukrainian Wikipedia" to the section here User:InternetArchiveBot called "Wikis currently supported". I noticed that the bot has been on Ukrainian Wikipedia since Aug 2018 (see [2] and has been active (I noticed today it did edits to one of the pages I follow edits hisotry of B&H article. Thanks!--Piznajko (talk) 18:26, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
IABot broke a link
was changed to...|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070825213156/www.gay.nl/article/1596//Hekma:_Ik_ben_geen_pedo!|archive-date=25 August 2007}}</ref>
If I had to guess, it's probably the double slash that confused the bot. I'll fix the article manually in a bit. --77.173.90.33 (talk) 20:19, 17 February 2019 (UTC)...archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070825213156/https:///|archive-date=25 August 2007|dead-url=no|df=dmy-all}}</ref>
Unnecessary archiving
It is unnecessary to archive Hungarian: an Essential Grammar. The link is active. Amator linguarum (talk) 08:52, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Dates on Ukrainian wikipedia have wrong grammar
For example here, bot writes "accessdate=29 липень 2015", but it should be written in genitive case, like "29 липня 2015". I was not able to find where to fix localisation, but it probably should be paused while that localisation is fixed. --Bunyk (talk) 22:11, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- Yes. This is a reported issue that is fixed in v2.0beta11. This release should be out soon.—CYBERPOWER (Around) 01:46, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
Internet Archive bot falsely tagging links as dead
Hi, I thought I should let you know the Internet Archive bot falsely labelled a link as dead for some reason [3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.144.208.217 (talk) 11:07, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, bug reports must be newer than 2 months.—CYBERPOWER (Around) 01:47, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
Adding a link to Ukrainian Wikipedia version of the bot
Hi @Cyberpower678:, could you please add "Ukrainian Wikipedia" to the section here User:InternetArchiveBot called "Wikis currently supported". I noticed that the bot has been on Ukrainian Wikipedia since Aug 2018 (see [4] and has been active (I noticed today it did edits to one of the pages I follow edits hisotry of B&H article. Thanks!--Piznajko (talk) 03:26, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
- I will be moving that to a different location in the foreseeable future.—CYBERPOWER (Around) 03:30, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
RfPPbot disabled again
RfPPbot started edit warring with me over leaving an unfinished discussion on the RfPP page. Perhaps we need a "do not archive" tag to prevent this behaviour. Samsara 07:29, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Samsara, you may edit RfPPbot setting in User:Cyberbot I/RFPP or deactivate {{RFPP}} templates Hhkohh (talk) 07:36, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Hhkohh: Thanks for the comment, that looks potentially helpful. I still think it's an oddity and probably an omission that we have a tag to trigger archiving, but none to suppress it. Samsara 08:08, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
Asking for a favor
I know you are busy and it's not a thing to ask to an administrator. Can you prepare a similar css for my user page like yours? I really like your style.
Sincerely,
Masum Rezatalk 04:04, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- It's really old. It's not CSS, just HTML. If you follow the templates, you should find it somewhere. I think it's found in User:Cyberpower678/StandardLayout.—CYBERPOWER (Message) 04:08, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks I've copied it to User:Masumrezarock100/StandardLayout.
Sincerely,
Masum Rezatalk 04:20, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks I've copied it to User:Masumrezarock100/StandardLayout.
In regards to your recent edits on List of Sword Art Online: Alicization episodes
Sorry for adding the fourth episode air date. I should have checked the toonami schedule. About the other thing, Tokyo MX lists the show to air on Saturday 24:00 so it technically occurs on 12:00 am or 00:00 on Sunday. How about keeping it all dates Sunday and adding a note.
Sincerely,
Masum Rezatalk 03:37, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- Masumrezarock100, I'm not so sure. Technically Toonami's claim of shows airing on Saturday at 12:30 am is actually a Sunday as well. I would rather go by what the source says. Besides in the US it technically aired 2/23/19, so the original air date should be the earliest occurrence.—CYBERPOWER (Around) 03:39, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- I am also not sure about the time zone. I mean when Toonami airs it. Is it JST or EST. But we should keep the original dates Sunday and add a note.
Sincerely,
Masum Rezatalk 03:43, 24 February 2019 (UTC)- Toonami airs EST, Japan airs JST. Both claim Saturday even though it's really Sunday, but they simultaneously broadcast the episodes to places where it actually is Saturday.—CYBERPOWER (Around) 03:45, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- Still I think we should add a note about it like this.
Sincerely,
Masum Rezatalk 03:49, 24 February 2019 (UTC)- WP:3O?—CYBERPOWER (Around) 03:50, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- Agree. But who should we ask?
Sincerely,
Masum Rezatalk 03:59, 24 February 2019 (UTC)- No idea.—CYBERPOWER (Message) 04:00, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- Okay. I have posted it on WT:ANIME.
Sincerely,
Masum Rezatalk 04:05, 24 February 2019 (UTC)- Anime has looked at this problem before. You might want to check the archives. --Izno (talk) 06:04, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Izno: Do you mean WT:ANIME archive? If so please provide the archive link it is hard to find.
Sincerely,
Masum Rezatalk 08:54, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- Okay. I have posted it on WT:ANIME.
- No idea.—CYBERPOWER (Message) 04:00, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- Agree. But who should we ask?
- WP:3O?—CYBERPOWER (Around) 03:50, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- Still I think we should add a note about it like this.
- Toonami airs EST, Japan airs JST. Both claim Saturday even though it's really Sunday, but they simultaneously broadcast the episodes to places where it actually is Saturday.—CYBERPOWER (Around) 03:45, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- I am also not sure about the time zone. I mean when Toonami airs it. Is it JST or EST. But we should keep the original dates Sunday and add a note.
Status changer script
Hi! This is a follow-up from User talk:Cyberpower678/Archive 62#Undefined. I made the script you described; it's at User:Enterprisey/statusChanger2.js. Besides making it in a drop down, I had it use the API instead, which should be a bit faster. Enterprisey (talk!) 05:25, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- It's awesome. Thank you. I hope you don't mind I merged the two pages together manually, and migrated it back into my user space. :-)—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:55, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
IABot
IABot doesn't seem to be handling piped links in citation templates properly: see errors introduced here, which I have corrected here. Thanks. DrKay (talk) 14:55, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- The problem (for url https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk9BIKggr3Y) it was missing the closing ] bracket after "(1933)". A GIGO. If you mean the empty
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those are a known problem Cyberpower once explained why, I no longer remember, but my bot WaybackMedic does remove them within a few months so they are not piling up. Would be good if there was a way to prevent it, like an IABot function that checks for and removes them before saving the page, rather than saving the page and waiting for my bot to check for and remove them. -- GreenC 16:13, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
Js pages
I was wondering why anyone can edit my User:Masumrezarock100/StandardLayout.js page. Only owners, interface admins and interface editors should be able to edit it as per Wikipedia:Protection_policy#User_pages. I tested it when I logged out.
Sincerely,
Masum Reza☎ 15:05, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Masumrezarock100: Because each page has a content model. The page you moved there was content model wikitext. The software does not (and should not) recognize just by the name that you wanted it to be a Javascript page, after you moved it to the location in question. --Izno (talk) 04:08, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- I see. Sincerely, Masum Reza☎ 04:10, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
IAbot
Hi Cyberpower678, Hope all's well,
Not sure if you're aware but on IAbot I'm currently getting a "503 unavailable" error message,
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Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 17:46, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
New message: Please add Alexandrov Army Choir and Czechoslovak Ice Hockey team air crash (1948) to the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatalities_from_aviation_accidents — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.254.64.168 (talk) 16:26, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
Trivial bot request
Could you have the bot say {{admin backlog|bot=Cyberbot I}} instead of just {{Admin backlog}} when adding an admin backlog template to WP:RFPP? Currently it says "please remove this notice when the backlog is cleared", when in fact the notice will be removed automatically. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 18:15, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – March 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2019).
Interface administrator changes
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- The RfC on administrator activity requirements failed to reach consensus for any proposal.
- Following discussions at the Bureaucrats' noticeboard and Wikipedia talk:Administrators, an earlier change to the restoration of adminship policy was reverted. If requested, bureaucrats will not restore administrator permissions removed due to inactivity if there have been five years without a logged administrator action; this "five year rule" does not apply to permissions removed voluntarily.
- A new tool is available to help determine if a given IP is an open proxy/VPN/webhost/compromised host.
- The Arbitration Committee announced two new OTRS queues. Both are meant solely for cases involving private information; other cases will continue to be handled at the appropriate venues (e.g., WP:COIN or WP:SPI).
- paid-en-wpwikipedia.org has been set up to receive private evidence related to abusive paid editing.
- checkuser-en-wpwikipedia.org has been set up to receive private requests for CheckUser. For instance, requests for IP block exemption for anonymous proxy editing should now be sent to this address instead of the functionaries-en list.
- The Arbitration Committee announced two new OTRS queues. Both are meant solely for cases involving private information; other cases will continue to be handled at the appropriate venues (e.g., WP:COIN or WP:SPI).
- Following the 2019 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Base, Einsbor, Jon Kolbert, Schniggendiller, and Wim b.
A warm greeting from Chinese Wikipedia!
Greetings. A tip for you: You can directly speak English when communicating with users in Chinese Wikipedia. Many of us do have above-basic English ability (e.g. en-3 or en-4). Please do not use machine translation as it would render your words very difficult to understand in Chinese. Thank you. --無聊龍 (talk) 06:14, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
- 無聊龍, thanks. Good to know.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:34, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
InternetArchiveBot at Galician Wikipedia
Hi, could be possible that the InternetArchiveBot doesn't modify articles with template "{{En uso}}"? You can see that edition that could be avoided by the bot. That template is like Template:In use. Thanks, --Elisardojm (talk) 12:20, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- Elisardojm, I'd rather not needlessly implement something that can be done with other methods. IABot supports
{{cbignore}}
,{{cbtalkonly}}
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templates. They may need to be created on glwiki, but will automatically be adopted by the bot. Check out each of the respective templates to see what they instruct the bot to do.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:36, 11 March 2019 (UTC) - Thanks, I added
{{cbtalkonly}}
to the galician template. Bye, --Elisardojm (talk) 11:08, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
Block InternetArchiveBot on Catalan Wikiquote
Hi, I block InternetArchiveBot due to duplicate warnings of dead links on references. I will unblock it when this problem will be solved. Thanks! --Docosong (talk) 20:58, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
- Docosong, The block is not necessary. You could have just turned it off on its runpage.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 13:02, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
Problem With Permissions When Trying To Run The InternetArchiveBot To Fix Dead Links Automatically
Hi Cyberpower678. Well done for your work as Lead Developer on the InternetArchiveBot. It looks like a great tool that I've heard has automatically fixed millions of dead links on Wikipedia :-)
I'm fairly new to editing Wikipedia, so am looking for a bit of help with automatically fixing dead links using the InternetArchiveBot please.
At https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:InternetArchiveBot it says:-
"You can use this bot yourself by browsing the history of any page, and clicking on the "Fix dead links" link in the "External tools" section at the top of the page."
but when I click the Fix Dead Links link at:- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Climate_engineering&action=history I go to:- https://tools.wmflabs.org/iabot/index.php?page=runbotsingle&pagesearch=Climate_engineering
which tell me:-
Permission error The action you are trying to perform requires the analyzepage permission.
This permission is obtainable with the following groups: basicuser, user, admin, root, bot
My account page at:- https://tools.wmflabs.org/iabot/index.php?page=user&id=57630957&wiki=enwiki tells me I'm not a member of any groups.
Could you please let me know if there is a way of becoming one of these groups, or whether I should have the permission to run the Bot?
I have tried to get help at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse#Problem_With_Permissions_When_Trying_To_Run_The_InternetArchiveBot_To_Fix_Dead_Links_Automatically but thought I'd come straight to you.
Thanks in advance.
Shalso (talk) 23:28, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
IA bot
Hi Cyberpower, I have a question about your Internet Archive bot. I'm seeing a lot of this kind of edit. There are three problems with it: first, changing the URL from the short to the long unnecessarily (and sometimes the URL changes from archive.is to archive.org); second, adding access dates when archive dates are already there; and third, adding "df=dmy-all", which doesn't seem to have any point.
The person who made that edit said it was a product of "fix dead links". Why would the bot change what was there, and can something be done about adding the extra fields? We have editors on that article who add "df=dmy-all" and others who remove it, leading to edit conflicts for no good reason. SarahSV (talk) 02:14, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- SlimVirgin, Short answer is that there is nothing wrong with the edit. It is mandatory to use long archive URLs. Short-form is disallowed per policy. Access dates are different from archive dates. Access dates, per the name is when the editor accessed the given URL. Archive date is of when the archive of the URL was created. AFAIK access dates are mandatory, and even if they aren't, it's a technical limitation of the bot to not include them. Lastly, df, aka date format, is a field the bot leaves behind so user's can easily format the dates as needed without having bots screw them up. IABot will fill in this field if there is a template directing the bot to format a certain way. It's not my issue that other scripts are removing these fields pointlessly.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:06, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- Access dates are not mandatory in two cases: when you have an archive and archive date, and when you have a date of publication. --Izno (talk) 15:40, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- Started discussion Help_talk:Citation_Style_1#access-date_and_archive-date because this has always been somewhat murky what best practice is. -- GreenC 16:34, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- Izno, There's still a technical limitation present that prevents this at this time.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:41, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- I was just correcting the use misunderstanding. --Izno (talk) 16:45, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- Access dates are not mandatory in two cases: when you have an archive and archive date, and when you have a date of publication. --Izno (talk) 15:40, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
Wikimedia Commons (again)
Please see this at Wikimedia Commons and if possible reply here, I thought that Fæ would run his bot as he has already bot-archived several links but he's too busy, if you need any advice on how to run file pages ask him. As I don't watch this page please reply on Wikimedia Commons. --Donald Trung (talk) 14:17, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- Donald Trung, you need to be patient. I just got done making Wikidata work which was not an easy job for me. I'm only one person. You have filed multiple Phab tasks to have IABot run on Commons. Please just watch those tickets for changes. As long as they aren't closed, they are still on my radar.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:10, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- Ah, for some reason the ping didn't work. Anyhow could you post the relevant Phabricator tickets to the village pump there, maybe more people will invest their free time in them if they're made aware. --Donald Trung (talk) 19:28, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- Donald Trung, How? They don't know how to set it up with IABot.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 19:30, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- But they do have experience bot archiving links. For example see Fæ's attempts which were successful, but he says that he would rather focus on creating content. So there is already some precedent. --Donald Trung (talk) 19:35, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- Donald Trung, How? They don't know how to set it up with IABot.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 19:30, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- Ah, for some reason the ping didn't work. Anyhow could you post the relevant Phabricator tickets to the village pump there, maybe more people will invest their free time in them if they're made aware. --Donald Trung (talk) 19:28, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
Suggestion
Hi Cyberpower. You say "I don't mean to be an ass" on the arbcom noticeboard, but I'm afraid you are coming across as one. We've got an individual there who's trying to deal with being hacked, and you're holding him up as an example of everything that is wrong with admin security. Can I suggest that you stop focusing on the individual, and more on the general case? There are many things that can be done to force improved security on the admin group - from re-logging in ever 30 days, to password entropy requirements, to 2FA, and more - however, they should come from above as requirements, rather than badgering each other for not holding ourselves to the same standard. When it comes down to it, very little damage was done to Wikipedia by the hack, but if we lose a decent admin/editor over it, then far more damage will be done. WormTT(talk) 13:41, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- Worm That Turned, Please see my final response on the matter.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:07, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- And a very good response that is too. Your concern isn't wrong, it's just pointing at the wrong target :) WormTT(talk) 15:47, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
IABot query
Pages on the PMSA website beginning http://www.pmsa.org.uk/pmsa-database/
have been deleted; I wanted to get IABot to swap them for archived versions, but can't figure out how to do so. Can you either point me at a guide, or add the task, please? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:31, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- I don't think IABot can ident based on a domain/path only domain. Correct if wrong. My bot WP:WAYBACKMEDIC can do this and would be happy to do so. -- GreenC 15:34, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
YGM
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template. at any time by removing the
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I'M HAVING A BIT OF TROUBLE READING YOUR USERPAGE. PLEASE CONSIDER UPDATING THE FORMATTING. MUCH LOVE. Benjamin (talk) 04:59, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
iabot down? or only works on some pages?
Tried several times on a couple different pages, but no joy. Maybe I'll try again a few hours from now... OK I tried once more and it worked for Marzia Bisognin but never for 1989 Tiananmen Square protests. I even tried moving the latter's Sources section into my sandbox in case the main article's large size was a factor. Is even the Sources section too big? Should I break it into chunks? ♦ Lingzhi2 (talk) 05:14, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- IABot is having issues. I've been working on it.—Cyberpower (竜龙) 20:59, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
Do you mind answering questions there on InternetArchiveBot? Thank You. --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 20:08, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- When I have an opportunity, I will.CyberP(talk) 20:59, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
FYI
I'm loving the various sigs, not sure what it says that I recognize all of them. At least no one's calling you a vandal, though the humorless brigade has come for me on multiple fronts. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 18:23, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Indeed. I keep my jokes normally confined to my userspace. :pCyberpower How can I help? 18:30, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Indeed. Thanks for the advice, Snowolf *ahem* Cyberpower678. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 04:23, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
April Fools stuff
Hey. 1) your user talk is extremely hard to read, could you please not tilt it? Thanks. 2) do you know what's going on with User:Shevonsilva, User:Shevonsilva/Layout, and User:Shevonsilva/StatndardLayout? They all have your "no permission given" G7 template (which is also IMO an improper use of the G7 tag, not to mention a severe violation of AGF). I think it's because they don't have an if check for User:Cyberpower678/SaH being "AprilFoolsStandard"? ansh666 06:42, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- I get not disrupting anything with April Fools stuff when it comes to our readers, but I am perfectly allowed to mess with my own user space during April Fools. Just let it rotate back on its own. I've had issues with impersonation in the past, and my user pages would get duplicated or transcluded without me knowing about it. So I implemented a copy-protection against that. I don't mind users using my layout, but I do mind being outright copied.--Cyberpower Chat|List of good deeds 14:07, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- In regards to the first, see my reply on AN. To the second, that still doesn't give you the right to slap an unremovable G7 tag on it. That criteria doesn't even apply - you didn't create the pages - and it assumes that users are trying to copy in bad faith, which isn't really true (they could, for example, have wanted to modify it for their own use, but never got around to it). A proper course of action would be to ask anyone copying in good faith to either remove it or change it, not to just mark it for deletion. Of course, impersonators and such can be dealt with easily. ansh666 17:19, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- This was how it was dealt with easily, in the past. It hasn't been a problem since then and I simply forgot about it until recently. I have no objections to them using my layout, I will happily provide them the code to do it. It's meant strictly to ward off impersonation.Cyber : Chat 17:24, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Well, in this case, it very clearly didn't work. Either way, I won't bother you any more, happy April 1st. ansh666 17:48, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Maybe, maybe not. Not sure what this user was doing by literally copying everything out of user space, and not bothering to point the templates to their new homes, but if they want to use my styles, I will be more than happy to make it available to them. :-) Cp678 (T•C•G•E) 17:59, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Well, in this case, it very clearly didn't work. Either way, I won't bother you any more, happy April 1st. ansh666 17:48, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- This was how it was dealt with easily, in the past. It hasn't been a problem since then and I simply forgot about it until recently. I have no objections to them using my layout, I will happily provide them the code to do it. It's meant strictly to ward off impersonation.Cyber : Chat 17:24, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you User:Cyberpower678. You can also develop a opensource wiki front end styling framework too. Your scripts made my page looks better. Thanks. :) Shevonsilva (talk) 00:52, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Shevonsilva, I removed a bunch of stuff from your recreated layout as it's not needed, and wasn't working anyways, but if you do want it, I can help you with that. But right now it's much simpler to manage now.—CYBERPOWER (Around) 11:31, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- In regards to the first, see my reply on AN. To the second, that still doesn't give you the right to slap an unremovable G7 tag on it. That criteria doesn't even apply - you didn't create the pages - and it assumes that users are trying to copy in bad faith, which isn't really true (they could, for example, have wanted to modify it for their own use, but never got around to it). A proper course of action would be to ask anyone copying in good faith to either remove it or change it, not to just mark it for deletion. Of course, impersonators and such can be dealt with easily. ansh666 17:19, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
Duplikate archive link
Why your bot added link? It's mistake! 83.219.146.115 (talk) 09:31, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- [5]. 83.219.146.115 (talk) 09:32, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- You're right. That's definitely a bug. One that should be fixed though.—CYBERPOWER (Around) 11:36, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
IAB contributions on Serbian Wikipedia
Hi, I disabled your bot at interface because I got many reports about making much wrong edits. So, I blocked him temporary. One of examples of edits which your bot made for links which works. Zoranzoki21 (talk) 23:01, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Zoranzoki21, I’m confused. Why did you block the bot if you turned it off on the interface? You mention temporary but I see an indefinite block there. Secondly, another confusion, false positives happen, the bot will never be 100% accurate. Why aren’t those cases being reported via the interface, or the edits simply reverted. It does clue IABot to the fact it may have done something wrong here. Do you have more examples? Are the bad edits from a widely used domain? Showing me a single bad URL does not help.—CYBERPOWER (Around) 01:56, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- I reported it already before in interface, but still he working wrong thing. Bad edits are made for same domain. Domain is european-athletics.org
I unblocked your bot now and enabled him again. Zoranzoki21 (talk) 02:09, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – April 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2019).
Interface administrator changes
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- In Special:Preferences under "Appearance" → "Advanced options", there is now an option to show a confirmation prompt when clicking on a rollback link.
- The Wikimedia Foundation's Community health initiative plans to design and build a new user reporting system to make it easier for people experiencing harassment and other forms of abuse to provide accurate information to the appropriate channel for action to be taken. Please see meta:Community health initiative/User reporting system consultation 2019 to provide your input on this idea.
- The Arbitration Committee clarified that the General 1RR prohibition for Palestine-Israel articles may only be enforced on pages with the {{ARBPIA 1RR editnotice}} edit notice.
- Two more administrator accounts were compromised. Evidence has shown that these attacks, like previous incidents, were due to reusing a password that was used on another website that suffered a data breach. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately. All admins are strongly encouraged to enable two-factor authentication, please consider doing so. Please always practice appropriate account security by ensuring your password is secure and unique to Wikimedia.
- As a reminder, according to WP:NOQUORUM, administrators looking to close or relist an AfD should evaluate a nomination that has received few or no comments as if it were a proposed deletion (PROD) prior to determining whether it should be relisted.
This is probably A stupid question, but...
How do you get your sig to change every time? Are you doing it manually, or is there some markup thats allowing you to do it?💵Money💵emoji💵💸 23:53, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Money emoji: (talk page stalker) see User:Cyberpower678/SignatureColorKey, User:Cyberpower678/SignatureStandard, and User:Cyberpower678/Signature for the behind-the-scenes functionality. My guess is the have set their preferences so that
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substitutes their current signature. --DannyS712 (talk) 00:41, 3 April 2019 (UTC)- @Money emoji: I remember seeing this at WP:UPDC, there was a setup guide if I am not wrong. 125.63.125.19 (talk) 15:15, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Well actually I built my signature completely independent of any help. What exactly are you looking to do?—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:17, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- I want to know how you got your sig to change with post on April fools. Did you do that manually, or did you have sort of script?💵Money💵emoji💵💸 15:45, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- The template randomly substitutes one of my April fools sigs automatically. See User:Cyberpower678/SignatureAprilFools.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 18:08, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- I want to know how you got your sig to change with post on April fools. Did you do that manually, or did you have sort of script?💵Money💵emoji💵💸 15:45, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Well actually I built my signature completely independent of any help. What exactly are you looking to do?—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:17, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Money emoji: I remember seeing this at WP:UPDC, there was a setup guide if I am not wrong. 125.63.125.19 (talk) 15:15, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- There was a guide at Wikipedia:User page design center/Metadata. 180.151.13.233 (talk) 09:12, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
InternetArchiveBot
I'm concerned about this edit by InternetArchiveBot, which appears to be a purely cosmetic change in formatting with a misleading edit summary: nothing was "rescued" as the two Wayback Machine links that were there worked perfectly well, and the bot added unnecessary quote marks (around a descriptive title and the name of a blog) and a full stop immediately before a comma. The changes in formatting are the result of {{webarchive}} being changed to {{cite web}}, which isn't necessary in the case of external links – cite web can be used for external links, but in cases like these webarchive is preferable. Perhaps the bot could be prevented from making changes like these in external links sections in future, or only with some sort of human oversight. All the best, – Arms & Hearts (talk) 11:29, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- Arms & Hearts, Webarchive templates should not be standalone templates. They should either be cite templates or standalone links.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 13:52, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- The purpose of external link templates like {{webarchive}} is to avoid citation templates like CS1|2 which generate a lot more HTML and other backend overhead. CS1|2 is meant for citations, but not for use in places like External link sections. This is why we have so many specialized external link templates (Project Gutenberg etc) there are thousands of them. The use of {{webarchive}} following a square-bracket link in a ref is somewhat "off label" as external link templates should not technically be part of a citation .. however that is how things evolved for lack of anything better so it's not perfect. But ideally {{webarchive}} would not be converted to CS1|2, unless inside a reference block. -- GreenC 14:56, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- GreenC, Oh. Good to know. I'll have to adjust the code then.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:06, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- The purpose of external link templates like {{webarchive}} is to avoid citation templates like CS1|2 which generate a lot more HTML and other backend overhead. CS1|2 is meant for citations, but not for use in places like External link sections. This is why we have so many specialized external link templates (Project Gutenberg etc) there are thousands of them. The use of {{webarchive}} following a square-bracket link in a ref is somewhat "off label" as external link templates should not technically be part of a citation .. however that is how things evolved for lack of anything better so it's not perfect. But ideally {{webarchive}} would not be converted to CS1|2, unless inside a reference block. -- GreenC 14:56, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
InternetArchiveBot
The unhelpful edits I described previously are still going on: see 2010 United States House of Representatives elections in Illinois, United States House of Representatives elections in Illinois, United States House of Representatives elections in Washington etc. In each case the bot has made minor unnecessary cosmetic changes to external links and incorrectly claimed to be "rescuing sources". Could you clarify what changes you've made, if any, as a result of the previous discussion? – Arms & Hearts (talk) 11:58, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- Arms & Hearts, beta15 of IABot will no longer convert archive templates outside of references.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:55, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
Help with adminstats on cywiki
Hello, I'm hoping you could help me. Ever since I changed my username, the template {{adminstats}} has stopped working for me on my userpage on cywiki. I deleted the subpage of the template which used my old name, in the hope that one would be created for my new name. Cheers, Adda'r Yw (talk) 18:28, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
RfPP update
From User talk:Cyberpower678/Archive 61#Cyberbot I overhaul
Hi, I'd like to request a few changes to Cyberbot I's RFPP clerking algorithms.
Please see Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_page_protection#Technical_roadmap. As soon as MusikAnimal's script has been updated, the bot can be updated as well. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 07:10, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
- This may take some time to implement.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:34, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
It's been almost three months. Any update on this? * Pppery * has returned 23:40, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Pppery, yes. I should have it ready within the next week or so.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 23:44, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- OK, good. * Pppery * has returned 23:46, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
Revdel
Hi Cyber, I have a a concern about this revdel (and this one [6]). We'd discussed it on the oversight list previously, and decided to reverse suppression and that it did not qualify for either suppression or revision deletion. The clean start policy specifically allows connecting accounts, and given that it is part of an ongoing arbitration case, the identity and revisions in question are likely something that non-admins should be able to see. TonyBallioni (talk) 14:23, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
- TonyBallioni, Oh I was wondering why Oshwah mentioned it was suppressed but it wasn't. As I can't see the suppression logs, I was unaware that it had been unsuppressed. I assumed that it was missed or something glitched and it actually wasn't suppressed.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:30, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah, you're good. It was suppressed under the "first resort" practice of the oversight team, and then on review we decided that it didn't qualify for suppression or revdel and another oversighter reversed it. You wouldn't have any reason to know since you can't see the logs :) TonyBallioni (talk) 14:33, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
- TonyBallioni, Another reason to request access to OS this year. I have decided to apply for OS and maybe CU.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:35, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah, you're good. It was suppressed under the "first resort" practice of the oversight team, and then on review we decided that it didn't qualify for suppression or revdel and another oversighter reversed it. You wouldn't have any reason to know since you can't see the logs :) TonyBallioni (talk) 14:33, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
IABot Management Interface
I have run this bot three times on Swanscombe Heritage Park and each time it says it has made changes but the article is unaltered. Is the bot not working now? Dudley Miles (talk) 10:11, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- I'm experiencing this too. --Kailash29792 (talk) 10:52, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Kailash29792, I'm not seeing that it's trying to make changes. It's telling me that it didn't make alterations.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:34, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
- It seems to have been fixed, thanks. But don't stop at that. --Kailash29792 (talk) 14:45, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
- Kailash29792, I'm not seeing that it's trying to make changes. It's telling me that it didn't make alterations.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:34, 18 April 2019 (UTC)