User talk:CouldBeeWorse

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Image issues Image:PBAanimation.gif

Image copyright problem with Image:PBAanimation.gif

Image Copyright problem

Thank you for uploading Image:PBAanimation.gif. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.

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Finally, on a personal note. The abortion debate is a heated issue for sure. It seems inappropriate to me to have a partisan, pro-life source for allegedly 'medical' diagrams. It raises neutrality and POV issues. Finding a more neutral or more academic image source seems more appropriate. Thanks again.-Andrew c 23:13, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(1) The accuracy of these drawings has been affirmed in writing by prominent ob-gyn authorities, including Prof. Watson Bowes, co-editor of the Obstetricial and Gynecological Survey -- see his letter here:

http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/Bowes_letter_PBA_illustration.pdf

(2) In 2003 the drawings were released for educational, non-commercial use by the original copyright holder. They have been utilized in numerous publications and I am aware of no credible challenges to their accuracy. They have been displayed on the floor of the House and the Senate during debates on the law upheld today by the Supreme Court. I hardly think that they are too strong for the Wikipedia audience.

(3) Although these drawings did not originate with National Right to Life, they are displayed on the NRLC website, and NRLC has released them for non-commerical, educational use. If the mere fact that NRLC displays them, as the more accurate available depictions of the disputed procedure, disqualifies them, then extensive further edits to the entire article will be required, because it is replete with citations to authorities that are every bit as "partisan" and POV as NRLC, beginning with the Alan Guttmacher Institute. CouldBeeWorse 23:29, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The GFDL Wikipedia uses allows derivatives to be sold commercially. Wikipedia derivatives are not restricted to educational use. A release for "educational, non-commercial" use does not satisfy Wikipedia's copyright requirements. Lyrl ^Talk _C 00:14, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

[question deleted -- found the Wikipedia page with the answer.CouldBeeWorse 01:46, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]