User talk:CharlotteWebb/Archive/006

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Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Gb

Thank you for the blanking - I appreciate the gesture, but have reverted it. It's not too difficult for anyone to link my old and my new names, and as most of my contributions were under my old name, my gut feeling is that people are more likely to recognise me via my old username rather than my new. Thank you very much for thinking of it, though, and taking the time to blank it. _GB^T/C 17:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Comments about David

		The Brick of Common Sense Award
		Nicely done :) Will (talk) 16:04, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I second the above award and comment. Acalamari 21:36, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

groan...

Horrible excellently timed pun there. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 05:26, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of J Stalin

An article that you have been involved in editing, J Stalin, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/J Stalin (2nd nomination). Thank you. Icamepica (talk) 05:06, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Joke

Hey Charlotte, without intent of sounding stupid: I still don't get the joke :O Poeloq (talk) 18:22, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Riana's request for bureaucratship

Dear CharlotteWebb, thank you for taking part in my RfB. As you may know, it was not passed by bureaucrats. I would, however, like to thank you for taking the time to voice your support, despite concerns cited by the opposition. Although RfA/B isn't really about a person, but more about the community, I was deeply touched and honoured by the outpouring of support and interest in the discussion. I can only hope that you don't feel your opinion was not considered enough - bureaucrats have to give everyone's thoughts weight. I also hope that the results of this RfB lead to some change in the way we approach RfBs, and some thought about whether long-entrenched standards are a good thing in our growing and increasingly heterogenous community. I remain eager to serve you as an administrator and as an editor. If at any point you see something problematic in my actions, please do not hesitate to call me out. ~ Riana ⁂ 12:07, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Your comment about the missing archival bot

Hello CharlotteWebb. You've been using Shadowbot3, which has been blocked since 13 January. May I suggest using MiszaBot instead? It is actually maintained by a real person who takes care of it, and responds to questions. The top of my user talk has MiszaBot commands that work. Or take a look at User:MiszaBot/Archive_HowTo. MiszaBot and Shadowbot3 are both successors to the lamented Werdnabot. EdJohnston (talk) 02:33, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

I see. Well, I'll give it a try. — CharlotteWebb 02:54, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Doesn't seem to be archiving properly [1].

• It believes it was removing threads older than "24 hours" when I specified "3 days".
• It removed only two threads when all but Riana's comment at the bottom were older than either of the above durations.
• It sent them to "/dev/null" (i.e. no actual archival) when I did specify a target page.

If any of the At Least 100 people silently watching my talk page knows how to fix the settings (which I have commented out for the time being), please be bold and do so. — CharlotteWebb 14:04, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

RfA - Discospinster

Thank you so much for your support in my RfA, which was successful with a final count of 70/1/1! ... discospinster _talk 23:53, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your support!

Hello, and thanks for your support in my recent RFA! The final result was 61/0/3, so I've been issued the mop! I'm extremely grateful for your confidence in me and will strive to live up to it. Thanks again! —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 07:37, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 March 5#Template categories whose names include "navigation templates", "navigational templates", "navigational boxes", etc

Hi. If I listed all variations in the above I could find within Category:Wikipedia templates, starting with:

• Category:[anything] navigation templates
• Category:[anything] navigational templates
• Category:[anything] navigational boxes

...all to be renamed thus:

• Category:[anything] navbox templates

...would that be sufficiently specific?
As regards a lack of consensus, perhaps that's more a matter of indifference, i.e. go ahead anyway? Thanks. Sardanaphalus (talk) 21:15, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Generally speaking, if you want to get a definite result from a "mass (-renaming) CFD" it would be best to have all of the categories listed on the CFD page along with the proposed new name.

If this is impractical due to the sheer volume, you might spend a few days making sure that all of the categories (for each type of template) belong to the appropriate parent category, then submit a brief nomination saying "I would like to rename all sub-cats of 'Category:Navbox templates' to use the naming convention 'Category:[Foo] navbox templates', and all sub-cats of 'Category:Infobox templates' to use... [etc]". This would allow anybody who actually wants to see all of the affected sub-cats to do so by clicking on the parent categories.

Of course, if you later find some that you forgot about, or if new categories are created later on with the "wrong" naming convention, they can be speedily corrected without the need for a new CFD.

That's how the process generally works, but I also realize that changes solely in the name of consistency are unlikely to face a rational objection. If you know what you're doing and you feel strongly enough about this issue, I would suggest just doing it yourself citing common sense. However, some of the templates belonging to categories you wish to rename might be protected from editing, which would create an minor obstacle if you aren't an admin (which you might be—I didn't bother to check).

Do have fun though. — CharlotteWebb 13:05, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice. I've recently found Special:CategoryTree, which should help. If/when the names are sorted out, do you think one of the bots wandering around Wikipedia could be tasked to ensure the navbox template categories keep and/or are assigned "...navbox templates" names? Sardanaphalus (talk) 11:10, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Bots can, and probably will, be used in the renaming process if the changes are done through CFD, with the limitation that they might not be able to re-categorize templates which are protected. Some bots might be smart enough to post an edit request on the template's talk page. I've never actually seen one do this, but it would be an easy feature to add.

But to be able to watch for and rename any new "wrongly named" categories as they appear, a bot would have to be — how do you say — considerably smarter than average. Using a bot to determine a category's intended purpose based on a non-standard title would, by Wikipedia standards, border on rocket science due to the numerous ways to explain the same concept in proper English (which relatively few of us speak).

Apologies if neither of these are what you meant. — CharlotteWebb 12:52, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I guess I'm imagining something pretty straightforward, i.e. an implementation of the bullet-points above (IF categoryname is "[something] navigation templates" OR "[something] navigational templates" OR "[something] navigational boxes" (OR...) THEN rename/merge to "[something] navbox templates" AND notify user who created it/who moved it). I've been working my way through Category:Applied science and technology templates and intend to do the same with the other categories in Category:Wikipedia templates before making a huge hideable request at CfD -- unless you reckon a different approach might be easier/more effective? Sardanaphalus (talk) 14:26, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Maybe, when I said "numerous" I meant "potentially infinite". I guess as long as you realize there's probably not a practical way of catching everything, you won't be disappointed later. Other approaches, you might try your luck with database dumps (categorylinks.sql.gz, 295.0 MB) and regular expressions. — CharlotteWebb 14:48, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Sure, nothing's perfect. I've just found {{category redirect}}, however, so am trying it out on Category:Applied science and technology navigation templates (→Category:Applied science and technology navbox templates). If this works, I guess I could continue using it until someone complains and/or my brain melts. Thanks for the database dump clue. Sardanaphalus (talk) 13:34, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I'd almost given up on the above, but now see that "RussBot" appears to have done what the template claims! (At last, something this week that doesn't need refunding.) So, I'm going to forge ahead with {{category redirect}}ing the other variously-named navigation(al) templates/boxes categories to "navbox templates" categories. Sardanaphalus (talk) 09:42, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

my RFA

Thank you! Thank you for your support in my RFA. The passed with a final count of (73/3/1), so I am now an administrator. Please let me know if at any stage you need help, or if you have comments on how I am doing as an admin. Have a nice day! :) Aleta Sing 18:51, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

There's A Guy Works Down The Chip Shop Swears He's Elvis

I think you'll find the fully capitalised version is the correct title for the song. The MOS doesn't override such capitalisations of proper titles. --Telford's Folly (talk) 14:20, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, the album cover says "THERE'S A GUY WORKS DOWN THE CHIP SHOP SWEARS HE'S ELVIS", so that insight is not particularly useful. The fan site linked to in the article uses a few inconsistent capitalizations, including one that only capitalizes "There's" and "Elvis" [2]. When in doubt, common sense must prevail [3]. — CharlotteWebb 14:47, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

As you seem knowledgeable about such things, can you tell me how Keep Your Hands Off My Baby should be capitalised please? --Bobyllib (talk) 17:52, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Shire towns in Vermont

Whatever you think about using the term that people from Vermont use, I'd appreciate it if I weren't mocked. Nyttend (talk) 02:28, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Thanks for your comments at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 March 22‎. Please use edit summaries--even the default ones from doing a section edit--on CfD pages so that folks can tell from watchlists and histories whether you were commenting on a specific discussion that we are watching. For that matter, edit summaries are good on all pages, and I hope that you will consider trying to improve from your current 50%. Ma^t_chups 02:55, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Typo's

I was wondering how you find all of those typos to correct. Do you use a specific method? SynergeticMaggot (talk) 01:05, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

It all started when I noticed Wikipedia users had, according to Google, misspelled the word "consensus" over 7,000 times (mostly in internal discussions, but pathetic nonetheless), so I decided to do something about it. — CharlotteWebb 03:12, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

So, you're using google to locate all the pages that have the misspelled words on? SynergeticMaggot (talk) 21:25, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

• I once did something similar with the very common "recieve". Dorftrottel (complain) 14:17, April 1, 2008

Ah, this helps thanks. No word yet from Webb though of course. SynergeticMaggot (talk) 15:24, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Google works ok. Might need a database dump for grammar problems where the wrong (correctly spelled) word is used. — CharlotteWebb 15:33, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar Alert

		The Minor Barnstar
		For your efforts in fighting ignorance with the help of the minor edit button. Typo's beware! SynergeticMaggot (talk) 16:34, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Awarding Barnstar

		The Barnstar of Good Humor
		Aprils fools day was a blast. Loads of users lightened up to have good old fashion fun. I want to thank you for taking part in editing this page in particular and even though I may not know you, embrace the same talk pages, or even edit with you in the near future, I'd like to award you this Barnstar for making Wikipedia a fun environment in which to contribute. Until next year. :) SynergeticMaggot (talk) 13:35, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

FLC:Orlando Magic draft history

Hello CharlotteWebb, do you have any more comments/suggestions for the Orlando Magic draft history page? If you do, please share them here. Thanks.--Crzycheetah 22:07, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Edit detail

Hello Charlotte: I noticed tonight on my watchlist that your edits to pages (WP:AN/I, specifically) only show your name, not the section that you have edited. Is this a glitch somewhere, or is it something you have set up for yourself? I don't have a view on it, though it does make your name stand out on a watched page; I am merely curious. ៛ Bielle (talk) 03:35, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

This happens when you click the whole page to edit. Also, she provides no edit summary :) SynergeticMaggot (talk) 03:42, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the information, SynergeticMaggot. It must be very tedious, scrolling down those long pages from the top. I'd get lost. ៛ Bielle (talk) 03:50, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Well the topic was at the bottom at the time. :) I on the other hand wouldn't suggest you do it though. Its preferred that you at least use an edit summary. SynergeticMaggot (talk) 04:40, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

My RFA has closed

My RFA that you weighed in on earlier has closed as no consensus to promote, at a final tally of 120/47/13. I thank you for your feedback and comments there, and I'm going to be considering all the various advice and comments presented. I might end up at RFA again some day, or not. If you see me there again in the future, perhaps you might consider a Support !vote. If not, not, and no hard feelings. The pen is still mightier than the mop! See you around, and thanks again. Lawrence § t/e 18:21, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

April 2008

Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors. Thank you. I believe you did not assume good faith regarding my nomination of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eric Lerner. ScienceApologist (talk) 17:27, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

{{Alaska-bio-stub}}

Hi - I see you have recently created one or more new stub types. As it states at Wikipedia:Stub, at the top of most stub categories, and in many other places on Wikipedia, it is recommended that new stub types are proposed prior to creation at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals, in order to check whether the new stub type is already covered by existing stub types, whether it is named according to stub naming guidelines, whether it is otherwise correctly formatted, whether it reaches the standard threshold for creation of a new stub type, and whether it crosses existing stub type hierarchies. Your new stub type is currently listed at WP:WSS/D - please feel free to make any comments there as to any rationale for this stub type. And please, in future, consider proposing new stub types first! Grutness...wha? 02:23, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Lady Aleena's RfA

CharlotteWebb...Thank you for supporting my nomination for adminship. Through it I have become aware of a great many people who can help me in my future editing endeavors. Even though I was not promoted, your support shows that I still have something to contribute to Wikipedia, even if it is minor edits to fix spelling and grammar to working in WikiProjects to help others make great articles. If you wish to further discuss the nomination, please use its talk page. Stop by my talk page anytime, even if it is just to say hello. Have a wonderful day! - LA @ 04:38, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Template:Diff

Your changes to Template:Diff on 21 April 2008 caused the following usage to break:

{{diff|Pagename|456|123|Differences between version 123 and version 456 of a page}}

I have reverted all your changes, although the addition of the Doc subpage was good. Please ensure that any changes you make do not break the old usage; alternatively, please use the "what links here" feature to find and change all existing uses of the template to fit in with any changes you make to how the template is used. —AlanBarrett 14:59, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

The problem here is that whoever designed this decided to order the numbered parameters in such a way that using this is no more keyboard-efficient than using {{fullurl:}}. I re-wrote it in such a way that the page-name and the next/prev nonsense can be omitted. I will work on correcting usages which do not point to the correct edit, but another part of the problem is usages where only the revision id of the previous edit has been provided (poor planning in itself). — CharlotteWebb 13:34, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I realized I probably wouldn't be able to fix the other usages fast enough to make everyone happy (and that editing their talk pages and archives would probably upset them more than anything) so I came up with something a little bit different which should work at least 90% of the time. If people mix named parameters with numbered ones, things might get a bit dicey (I'm not sure). — CharlotteWebb 16:45, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I can't tell what you are trying to do, and you have neither discussed it on the talk page not documented it on the documentation page. None of the examples on the documentation page work now (they all have an unwanted extra word "Page" at the beginning of the link). Breaking old uses of the template without discussion is not acceptable. Please revert the template to a working version, and open a discussion for new features. Please also write proper edit summaries in future. —AlanBarrett 20:42, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, I see you are trying to fix the issue. I have created sandbox and testcases sub-pages to help with this, and I made some comments in Template talk:diff. Please direct further discussion to the template's talk page. —AlanBarrett 15:07, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Editing sections

Just curious, do you intentionally avoid using sections [edit] links, or do you use them but then manually remove automatic /*section names*/ ? Either way, it makes following specific threads (from watchlist) inconvinient on large discussion pages. —AlexSm 16:53, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Adding article sizes in histories

Urk. Thanks loads.  :) It's all Greek to me. I appreciate that, though. Corvus cornix_talk 21:02, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

My Recent Rfa

Although you opposed me in my recent RFA I will still say thanks as from your comments and the other users comments that opposed me I have made a todo list for before my next RFA. I hope I will have resolved all of the issues before then and I hope that you would be able to support me in the future. If you would like to reply to this message or have any more suggestions for me then please message me on my talk page as I will not be checking back here. Thanks again. ·Add§hore· ^Talk/_Cont 16:21, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Bot approved: dabbing help needed

Hi there. Fritz bot has been approved at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/FritzpollBot for filling in a possible 1.8 million articles on settlements across the world. Now dabbing needs to be done for links which aren't sorted as the bot will bypass any blue links. and I need as many people as possible to help me with Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Places to prepare for the bot. If you could tackle a page or two everything counts as it will be hard to do it alone. Thankyou ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 12:16, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

only to let you know

Hey! I did laugh :) Gwen Gale (talk) 18:30, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

FYI...

This guy seems a likely a sockpuppet of this guy which can explain his odd behaviour (Here's the old sockpuppet report for charcteristics of the socks) I thought I'd let you know as I've had many past dealings with this user and his socks, particularly back in March, and all I can say is just be prepared if more socks turn up. Cheers :) AngelOfSadness talk 18:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi CharlotteWebb, thanks for your input on village pump (technical) yesterday. I'm not exactly sure what my problem was, but it seems to be fine now. Thanks again. Acalamari 19:12, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

auto-lemon

Hi Charlotte—Good to see that someone else is interested in this pervasive date-autoformatting problem. Perhaps I might mount another push at Bugzilla (or even to the ArbCom). TONY (talk) 14:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

OK, I went and began it... I'm sure it needs cleanup

Check out: Movin' On (The Greencards album), Weather and Water, Viridian (The Greencards album), all tweaked to be the sections dumped, but JUST about the albums. Basic infoboxes done, FU for the album covers, added a template and category, fixed references (I love copy/paste building, it's so cheesy).

What should be done on the main article besides pulling the images? rootology (T) 04:17, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Smile!

Here's a web for you! Webs somehow promote WikiLove, and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving something friendly to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Make your own message to spread WikiLove to others! Happy editing! Acalamari 02:17, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Hurrah!

Encore! Angus McLellan (Talk) 20:55, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

??? — CharlotteWebb 03:54, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Music samples!

I figured out how to make Ogg out of Itunes today... Check it out. I put the article up for Peer Review too, to start the last ironing out, and have been going back over the remaining FAC stuff. rootology (T) 03:38, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

SarekOfVulcan RFA

Thank you for !voting on my RfA. If you supported, I'll make sure your confidence is not misplaced; if you opposed, I'll take your criticism into account and try to adjust my behavior accordingly.

See you around the wiki!--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 00:12, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Happy Independence Day!

As you are a nice Wikipedian, I just wanted to wish you a happy Independence Day! And if you are not an American, then have a happy day and a wonderful weekend anyway!  :) Your friend and colleague, --Happy Independence Day! Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 21:27, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Please, do use them. I won't template you though :) CWii_{(Talk|Contribs)} 17:32, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

It's not just the question of meaninful summaries, the automatic section summaries are always missing, which causes a lot of inconvenience for other users. My question 2 months ago was simply ignored. —AlexSm 23:20, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Peer review/The Greencards/archive1

Wikipedia:Peer review/The Greencards/archive1. Check it out, when you get a chance. :) I want to start the next FAC try soon... rootology (T) 03:33, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Might not have time until early next week. — CharlotteWebb 03:39, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

No problem, whenever you can. rootology (T) 03:47, 11 July 2008 (UTC)