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May 2012

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Welcome to Wikipedia. I have noticed that some of your recent genre changes, such as the one you made to We Are the Normal, have conflicted with our neutral point of view and verifiability policies. While we invite all users to contribute constructively to Wikipedia, we urge all editors to provide reliable sources for edits made. When others disagree, we recommend you to seek consensus for certain edits. Thank you. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 21:03, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

July 2012

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Welcome to Wikipedia. I have noticed that some of your recent genre changes, such as the one you made to Starseed (song), have conflicted with our neutral point of view and verifiability policies. While we invite all users to contribute constructively to Wikipedia, we urge all editors to provide reliable sources for edits made. When others disagree, we recommend you to seek consensus for certain edits. Thank you. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 20:14, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

October 2012

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Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, as you did to Closing Time (Semisonic song), you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --Yankees76 Talk 21:06, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at What Makes You Beautiful, you may be blocked from editing. Do not change/alter genres without giving a source or discussing the changes on Talk pages first. Read WP:GWAR. Widr (talk) 05:55, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is the final warning that you will receive regarding continued genre changing without discussion or sources. If you choose to continue, as you did at Zero (song), you may be blocked from editing without further notice. --Yankees76 Talk 12:47, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

December 2012

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Thank you for your contributions. Please remember to mark your edits, such as your recent edits to Hip hop music, as "minor" only if they truly are minor edits. In accordance with Help:Minor edit, a minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute. Minor edits consist of things such as typographical corrections, formatting changes or rearrangement of text without modification of content. Additionally, the reversion of clear-cut vandalism and test edits may be labeled "minor". Thank you. Dan56 (talk) 02:00, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

January 2013

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Please refrain from changing genres, as you did to Soma (song), without providing a source and without establishing a consensus on the article's talk page first. Genre changes to suit your own point of view are considered disruptive. Thank you. Myxomatosis57 (talk) 15:02, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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February 2013

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Please refrain from changing genres, as you did to Push and Shove, without providing a source and without establishing a consensus on the article's talk page first. Genre changes to suit your own point of view are considered disruptive. Thank you. SnapSnap 16:33, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

April 2013

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Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to change genres without discussion or sources, as you did at Drowned World/Substitute for Love, you may be blocked from editing. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 18:22, 21 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is the final warning that you will receive regarding continued genre changing without discussion or sources. If you choose to continue, as you did at If I Had No Loot, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Dan56 (talk) 06:55, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

May 2013

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This is the final warning that you will receive regarding continued genre changing without discussion or sources. If you choose to continue, as you did at What's Up? (song), you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 03:27, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

June 2013

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This is the final warning that you will receive regarding continued genre changing without discussion or sources. If you choose to continue, as you did at Cheers (Drink to That), you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 01:42, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

September 2013

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This is the final warning that you will receive regarding continued genre changing without discussion or sources. If you choose to continue, as you did at Sexless Demons and Scars, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 22:52, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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February 2014

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Information icon Please refrain from changing genres, as you did to Same Love, without providing a source and without establishing a consensus on the article's talk page first. Genre changes to suit your own point of view are considered disruptive. Thank you. STATic message me! 08:46, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to change genres without discussion or sources, as you did at Same Love, you may be blocked from editing. STATic message me! 23:05, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is the final warning that you will receive regarding continued genre changing without discussion or sources. If you choose to continue, as you did at If I Had No Loot, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Dan56 (talk) 01:55, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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183.171.178.84 (talk) 07:06, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop adding Alternative Songs to the charts list of articles where the Hot Rock Songs is listed. This prevents a ridiculous number of charts being listed. More information can be found at WP:USCHARTS. Adabow (talk) 21:51, 2 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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August 2014

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Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to change genres without discussion or sources, as you did at If I Had No Loot, you may be blocked from editing. Dan56 (talk) 07:02, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at If I Had No Loot, you may be blocked from editing. Dan56 (talk) 20:10, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is the final warning that you will receive regarding continued genre changing without discussion or sources. If you choose to continue, as you did at If I Had No Loot, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Dan56 (talk) 06:42, 28 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

September 2014

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Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to change genres without discussion or sources, as you did at American Hi-Fi (album), you may be blocked from editing. Binksternet (talk) 21:22, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

October 2014

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This is the final warning that you will receive regarding continued genre changing without discussion or sources. If you choose to continue, as you did at Drowned World/Substitute for Love, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 07:11, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Stop icon This is your only warning; if you vandalize Wikipedia again, as you did at The Power of Good-Bye, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 07:20, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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You have received numerous messages about changing genres without discussion, but you still continue to do so. It is true that on the one occasion when you did answer another editor's message, he or she just removed your message without responding to it, which can't have encouraged you to try again, but that one example of another editor being unhelpful should not outweigh all the times when editors have asked you to discuss, and certainly the block on your account for a month earlier this year should have got the message across. Wikipedia is a collaborative project, and when you disagree with one or more other editors, the thing to do is to explain your reasons, try to reach agreement, and to accept consensus, even if you personally disagree with that consensus. I have blocked your account from editing again, this time for three months, since a one-month block did not lead to any change in your editing. This does not mean that you need to remain blocked for the three months, because if you can persuade an administrator that you have taken the message on board, and will change your approach to editing, you may be unblocked. To do that, add the following text below this notice: , replacing "Your reason here" with a brief statement, making it clear that you understand why you have been blocked, and will avoid making the same mistakes again. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 10:36, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Catlin, the one time when you did reply to a talk page message was almost two years ago, so you very likely don't remember it at all, but even so, I will give you an answer now, as it may still help to make clear to you some of the reasons why many editors regard your editing as unconstructive. The editor Yankees76 posted a message to you, which you can still higher up on this page, in the section "October 2012", describing you as "vandalizing" an article. I don't think that "vandalize" was a helpful word to use, as I have no reason to doubt that you were editing in perfectly good faith, but there were problems with your edit, and it would have been more helpful if Yankees76 had explained to you what the problems were, instead of just calling your editing "vandalism". I will try to help you now, by telling you what I see as problems in that edit, and why I do not see your reply to Yankees76 as dealing with those problems.

In this edit you removed some content of the info box in the article Closing Time (Semisonic song), under the heading "Genre". When you received the message from Yankees76, you replied on that editor's talk page, saying "One page the genre consisted of "Alternative rock" and "alternative pop" which both link to the same exact page therefore there is no difference." Unfortunately, that reply misses several points.

  1. "Alternative Pop" was not the only genre you removed, as you also removed "Indie Rock" and "pop rock". An answer that mentions only part of what you did, ignoring other parts, is not a complete answer.
  2. Even if two differently worded descriptions both link to the same Wikipedia article, that does necessarily mean that it is not worth having them both in an article, as they are there for readers to see them where they are, as well as to link to other articles that have further information. What you said about them both linking to the same article might justify unlinking one of them, say by replacing "[[Alternative Pop]]" with just "Alternative Pop", but it does not justify completely removing the mention of "Alternative Pop".
  3. As well as removing the genres, you removed two references, and nowhere at any time did you explain what you thought was wrong with those references. If you remove another editor's contribution, you need to explain why.

I see that as well as only once ever making any attempt to explain your editing on a talk page, you also never use edit summaries to explain what you are doing. Whenever you edit an article, you should put a brief statement of what you are doing in the box labelled "Edit summary" below the editing area of the page. This gives other editors an idea what you are doing and why. If any edit needs more explanation than the edit summary box has room for, you should post on the article's talk page. If you have good reason to believe that an edit is likely to be controversial, that is to say other editors are likely to disagree, then it is essential to explain your reason, not just advisable. In your case, after the large number of messages you have received about changing genres without discussion or sources, you cannot possibly be unaware that the sort of changes you have been making certainly are controversial.

I hope these comments may be helpful to you in understanding the sort of changes you should make in to your approach to editing, so that you can fit into Wikipedia's accepted methods when your block expires, or better still when you make a successful request for an unblock, which I hope you will do soon. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 11:17, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

{{unblock}}

What edits would you make if unblocked? PhilKnight (talk) 10:48, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This unblock request is way too vacuous, as if you're trying to say what admins want to hear. More detail from you tends to work a lot better than a vague, two-sentence request. —Jeremy v^_^v Bori! 22:49, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

September 2015

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Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you change genre in pages without discussion or sources, as you did at Where Do You Go (La Bouche song). Binksternet (talk) 04:18, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 6 months for persistent disruptive editing. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 17:37, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

December 2016

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Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you change genres in pages without discussion or sources, as you did at Forever Now (The Psychedelic Furs album). —IB [ Poke ] 07:53, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abuse of editing privileges. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may request an unblock by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.

Materialscientist (talk) 07:57, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]