User talk:Bobbydoop

Murry Bergtraum High School, at Brooklyn Bridge, is a New York City Public High School located next to City Hall at 411 Pearl Street. It is comprised of over 3000 students and is ranked as a "School Of Excellence" by U.S. News and World Report. Well known for its Women's Basketball program, it also has a program that focuses on Business and one labeled "Collegiate" which takes in students from the surrounding neighborhood of Flatbush, Brooklyn. It traditionally places among the top ten best high schools in Brooklyn, after specialized high school Brooklyn Tech.

School sports include basketball, track, badminton and baseball.

Welcome!

Welcome!

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Murry Bergtraum High School

Hi, thanks for contributing the new article, Murry Bergtraum High School. As you're a new user I wanted to suggest you may find Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools helpful, which has guidelines for the standard structure of a school article, and the types of information you may wish to include. Thanks. --Rob 16:49, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Can we try to cooperate?

You are inserting bizarre edits all over the place that are confounding me and other users. Gagnon bus services has been alerted about your attacks stating the company lacked "internal stability", and I would suggest that you stop editing any article connected to them. I created a section on transportation in the article, and I don't think it is necessary to insert more POV information dealing with specific bus lines. The fact the school is close to another school might be interesting to a bus driver but not to Wikipedia readers in the introduction. Tfine80 18:35, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This message is regarding the page Stuyvesant High School. Please refrain from adding nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Niffweed17 23:38, 28 December 2005 (UTC) [reply]

Valid information is being posted with refences. So what's the problem? Bobbydoop 23:54, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Tfine80 00:04, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

St. John's University, New York

Hi Bobbydoop, you seem to be encountering quite a bit of resistance when trying to insert "lack of engineering, lack of medical programs," in the St. John's University, New York article. Please remember that continuously reverting changes to your statement ([1] [2] [3] [4]) is a violation of Wikipedia:Three-revert rule.--Bookandcoffee 01:26, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

there are individuals who are reverting for unusual reasons. i'm preventing this type of vandalism Bobbydoop 02:28, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Tfine80 02:36, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

In response i'm running into a back and forth issue with Tfine80 who will not go into discussion Bobbydoop 03:10, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Tfine80 is giving a lot of trouble to me on various pages. He refuses to go to talk pages and discuss things. Bobbydoop 03:11, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm only going to give one piece of advice here Bobbydoop, and you can listen or not, I doubt I'll be back. I looked at this a little, and both you and Tfine80 are battling it out with multiple reverts (Tfine80 - 7 reverts, you - 6 as of 19:18, 28 December 2005). Leave it alone, and let the other thousands of editors here, who are not personally invested, sort out what is what. Go do something with the other 6,915,323 articles here. Easier said than done, I know, but there it is. Cheers.--Bookandcoffee 03:42, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Possible Racial Edits

NORTH VIETNAM? "Black on black violence?" What are you trying to imply with this edit: "Alpha Phi Alpha has had a long history of hazing. It has been involved in numerous deaths, arrests, maiming, injuries and resulting lawsuits as a result of the black on black violence. Although it is officially not condonned, it still plagues the fraternity. [5]" Tfine80 03:59, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

this is good enough proof... [6]

Please do not keep undoing other people's edits without discussing them first. This is considered impolite and unproductive. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. --NaconKantari 04:10, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You really want to compromise?

OK, I've been a Wikipedian for a fair amount of time now, and we have a certain culture here. It's OK to include information critical of a subject, but it needs to be included in a fair and normal manner. Your edits on St. John's, Stuyvesant, and Alpha Phi Alpha have antagonized the editors on those pages. So I'm not the only person upset with you. I've also seen some edits on Dominican Republic and St. John's that were dangerous vandalism, pure and simple. I would recommend that you go back and improve your own article about Bergtraum and leave the others alone for a bit. If you continue to make the edits you are making, sooner or later you will probably be banned in all honesty. I'm glad you are trying to reach out finally. Best, Tfine80 04:18, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't touched Bergtrum since creating it. Alpha Phi Alpha i have good amount of proof. Allow me a section on St. John's and Stuyvesant where I can place VERIFIED information. If it's not verified, you can remove it. Fair enough? Bobbydoop 04:22, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Fine, but you need to do it in a calm and NORMAL way. And present both sides -- that's the point of Wikipedia. Your tone of writing is way too aggressive. I hope the more vandalism style edits were only because of your frustration from being reverted. Tfine80 04:26, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Create a section on St. John's near the middle labeled controversy at the college. At Stuyvesant they are pretty much agreeing to my postings. Bobbydoop 04:41, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked

Am I to understand that you intend to begin editing responsibly? I just blocked you for one week, due to your repeated vandalism and 3RR violations on no fewer than four different articles. What's the deal? —David Levy 04:31, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Individuals were going back and forth. We have finally been able to make a compromise as long as tfine80 agrees. The tone of my submissions may have upset a few people, but I have always verified my submissions. It's not really vandalism, just a disagreement on what should be allowed and not allowed. Bobbydoop 04:34, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I consider a edit like this [7] proof of some vandalism, along with other more bizarre but still probably vandalistic edits. I'm glad you are showing some remorse. I think you should take some time to think about how you can best contribute to Wikipedia. Tfine80 04:42, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This is more of vandalism. I dont know who this person is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=St._John%27s_University%2C_New_York&oldid=32777127 Bobbydoop 04:45, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, many of your edits have been downright absurd, and you've deliberately used inaccurate edit summaries. You received repeated warnings (and were informed of the three-revert rule), and you continually removed these messages from this page. Please explain how these actions can be interpreted as good faith attempts to contribute to the encyclopedia. —David Levy 04:46, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

All of my edits have been verified. Individuals as it seemed were vandalizing my page, while deleting my submissions or reverting them. Attempts were made to stop it. Now after an exhausting period we agree that we must discuss this. I am requesting to be able to use the Stuyvesant talk section to help finish up the discussion there.. Bobbydoop 04:49, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't possible for me to permit you to edit that specific page without unblocking you. If you promise that during the next seven days, you won't edit any of the disputed articles without consensus, I shall do so. If, however, you breach this agreement (or exhibit similar behavior on a different article), I will reinstate the block. Do you agree to these terms? —David Levy 05:02, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I request that pages that I've edited on be protected, and that a block on deletes on my revisions be put in place. That is a large reason why there have been revisions of older articles. thank you. Bobbydoop 05:12, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've lifted your block. I will not protecting any of these articles at this time, and I expect you to uphold your end of the agreement (regardless of how others edit the pages). Your second request is nonsensical, I'm afraid. —David Levy 05:13, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

i thought you said the block was lifted. i'm still getting the block message. Bobbydoop 15:36, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Please copy and paste the text of the block message here. —David Levy 15:44, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

User is blocked From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Jump to: navigation, search You have attempted to edit a page, either by clicking the "edit this page" tab or by following a red link.

Your IP address is 24.239.149.9. Please include this address, along with your username (if you are a registered user), in any queries you make.

Your user name or IP address has been blocked by David Levy.

The reason given is: Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "Bobbydoop". The reason given for Bobbydoop's block is: "repeated vandalism and 3RR violations on no fewer than four different articles".

You can email David Levy or one of the other administrators to discuss the block. You may also edit your user talk page if you wish. If you believe that our blocking policy was violated, you may discuss the block publicly on the WikiEN-l mailing list. Note that you may not use the "email this user" feature unless you have a Wikipedia account and a valid email address registered in your user preferences.

If you would like to know when the block will expire, please see the block list.

If you need to see the wiki text of an article, you may wish to use the Export pages feature. Bobbydoop 16:37, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, your IP address should be unblocked now. Please behave yourself. —David Levy 17:02, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

talk/discussion all the way.... Bobbydoop 17:36, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

3RR Warning

In reference to Stuyvesant High School : Please do not keep undoing other people's edits without discussing them first. This is considered impolite and unproductive. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 04:38, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This is in discussion now. There have been multiple revision by multiple users as well as deletions by I dont know who. Thank you for protecting the page. Bobbydoop 04:40, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ad hominem arguments, slurs, and namecalling

Please stop these anti-social acts. This is supposed to be an online encyclopedia, not an online kindergarten. Whether you think I should be called a "[p]enis" or not has nothing at all to do with whether or not your preferred changes to Stuyvesant High School are appropriate. RossPatterson 02:49, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Townsend Harris High School

Please stop continually adding the sentence about testing to Townsend Harris High School. The information is already there, and the sentence you have been adding contains misspellings, is factually innacurate ("now, anyone can get in") and is more appropriately placed in the section on admissions than in the section on the school's history. Bgruber 05:01, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Notice

You and your aliases (User:Bobbydoop, User:205.188.116.135, and a number of AOL mirrors) have performed a number of edits that are clearly in bad faith, including many instances of misleading edit summaries, repeated reversions that remove good edits that are effectively blanking vandalism, and personal attacks. Combined with your obvious tendency to rotate IP's to skirt the 3RR rules, it is clear that you are what may be referred to as a problem user. For that reason, I'm blocking your user name and your known static IP's for one week. After consultation with other administrators, the duration of this block may be adjusted up or down as deemed appropriate. If you choose to evade your block, all of your changes will be reverted without prejudice, and your block will be extended, perhaps indefinitely. – Clockwork Soul 18:58, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

With the creation of the account User:Rafofcon, you are now circumventing your block. I am indefinitely blocking this sockpuppet account. Please, don't circumvent your block again, or you will likely find that others are far less lenient than I. – Clockwork Soul 02:07, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

that wasn't a sockpuppet.. you should research better. 64.12.117.6 04:15, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Stuyvesant High School kerfluffle

I'm sure you never want to have to touch Stuyvesant High School again, but I have to ask: In your opinion, was a conclusion on the dispute ever reached? I'm having a hard time following the flow at Talk:Stuyvesant High School. Thanks! RossPatterson 22:34, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]