User talk:Blake44
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Hi Blake44, you just sent me an email. Typically, the only reason to email someone is if you have private information to share that you don't want exposed on Wikipedia. Otherwise, it's generally considered more appropriate to simply post a message on someone's User Talk page if you'd like to ask or tell them something.
You asked what was wrong with the article that got recently deleted at AfD, and whether or not it should be re-created. It was deleted because there was a consensus that the subject of the article doesn't meet Wikipedia's notability standards. If it's true that this person isn't notable by Wikipedia's standards, then re-creating the article will likely be a waste of your time, because any re-creation of this article will probably be deleted for the same reason. However, in the unlikely case that something major was missed in the AfD (i.e. a major source, or a major detail of this individual's life that wasn't mentioned in the article), then it's possible that you could successfully recreate the article.
May I ask why you are so interested in ensuring that there is a Wikipedia article about this person? Do you have a personal connection to him in some way? ‑Scottywong| squeal _ 17:39, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply ‑Scottywong I'm so glad that someone answered me, I didn't know about the email, I tried to contact many editor who voted on the article by their talk page and non of them answered so I figured maybe I should email.
About the article, No, I don't have any personal connection to him at all and if you see I did not create the article, it was created by someone else and 80% of the problems in that discussion was due to the original creators activity.
I have great interest in technology startups and entrepreneurs and I follow their news everyday, it is a hobby of mine. I came across this article and found interest and I edited the article, the reason I'm working on this article is because I want to contribute more on Wikipedia and write article that are less spoken of specially in Asia. I tried to work on this article and see If I'm doing it right, if yes, I'll move on to the next article. I can't start making articles without understanding the Wikipedia's community and rules.
Now, here is the table that was provided in the article, If you see this table the sources according to Wikipedia are reliable and the links are directly talking about the person, so I just want to know if according to Wikipedia the sources are reliable independent and talk about the person in-depth is not enough then what is the problem? Maybe I'm not getting it right, could you please enlighten me and teach me the things I didn't read in the Wikipedia's rules? Many many thanks
Source assessment table:
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| Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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| https://en.mehrnews.com/news/147878/Biography-of-Bijan-Zamani | 
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The source is a major Iranian news media Mehr News Agency
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The source discusses the subject directly and in detail
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✔ Yes |
| https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/438396/Bijan-Zamani-s-Success-Story-as-an-Entrepreneur |
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The source is a major Iranian news media Tehran Times
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The source discusses the subject directly and in detail
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✔ Yes |
| https://en.mehrnews.com/news/147573/The-digital-health-startup-that-is-improving-healthcare |
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The source is a major Iranian news media Mehr_News_Agency
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The source discusses the subject directly and in detail
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✔ Yes |
| https://en.isna.ir/news/98043116474/Meet-the-first-Iranian-doctor-programmer |
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The source is a major Iranian news agency Iranian Students News Agency
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The source discusses the subject directly and in detail
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✔ Yes |
| https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/438058/Successful-Iranian-Entrepreneurs-You-Should-Know-About |
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The source is a major Iranian news media Tehran_Times
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~ The article mentions the subject in a list | ~ Partial |
| https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/436733/Interview-with-MihanPezeshk-founder-Dr-Bijan-Zamani |
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The source is a major Iranian news media Tehran_Times
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The article mentions the subject in details
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✔ Yes |
| https://irannewsdaily.com/2019/07/why-startups-fail-and-what-you-can-learn-from-them/ |
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The source is a major Iranian news media
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The article discusses the subject directly
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✔ Yes |
| https://www.asriran.com/fa/news/676753 |
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The source is a major Iranian news media
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~ The article mentions the subject briefly | ~ Partial |
| https://www.tabnak.ir/fa/news/906349 |
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The source is a major Iranian news media according to List_of_Iranian_news_agencies
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The article discusses the subject directly
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✔ Yes |
| http://www.iran-daily.com/News/255778.html |
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The source is a major Iranian government agency Iran_(newspaper)
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The article discusses the subject directly
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✔ Yes |
| https://web.archive.org/web/20080414173309/http://www.webna.ir/news/?id=62034100 |
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The source is the Iranian Website News Agency website (Archived)
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~ The article discusses the subject briefly | ~ Partial |
| http://jamejamonline.ir/online/3771896778105568423/ |
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The source is a major Iranian news agency Jam-e Jam (newspaper)
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The article discusses the subject directly
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✔ Yes |
| https://www.ilna.ir/Section-medical-10/770899-interview-with-young-entreprenuer-bijan-zamani |
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The source is a major Iranian news agency Iranian Labour News Agency
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The article discusses the subject directly
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✔ Yes |
| https://en.mehrnews.com/news/146299/Dr-Bijan-Zamani-talks-about-an-easier-way-to-find-a-doctor |
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The source is a major Iranian news agency Mehr News Agency
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The article discusses the subject directly
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✔ Yes |
| https://click.ir/1398/04/23/best-digital-healthcare-startups-in-iran/ |
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The source is a major Iranian technology magazine (Alexa Rank: 365)
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~ The article discusses the subject in a list | ~ Partial |
| https://arga-mag.com/360861 |
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The source is a major Iranian technology magazine (Alexa Rank: 43)
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~ The article discusses the subject briefly | ~ Partial |
| https://www.alodoctor.com/articles/details/48485 |
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The source is a major Iranian health magazine (Alexa Rank: 281)
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The article discusses the subject directly
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✔ Yes |
| https://profile.iwmf.ir/website/mihanpezeshk.com |
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The official website of Iranian Web & Mobile Festival
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? Unknown | |
| https://www.crunchbase.com/person/bijan-zamani |
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? Crunchbase As explained in their Wikipedia page members can also add information but the ranking and rating are done by moderators only. | ? Unknown | |
| https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/mihanpezeshk#section-related-hubs |
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? Crunchbase As explained in their Wikipedia page members can also add information but the ranking and rating are done by moderators only. | ? Unknown | |
| This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. | ||||
Blake44 (talk) 17:56, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, I saw this table that you included in the AfD. I didn't go through all the sources (as that isn't my job as the AfD closer). There are a lot of comments in the AfD about these sources, maybe re-read those comments with an open mind? Here's another way to think about it: what has this person accomplished that is so notable? From what I can see, he has created a few successful websites that are used locally in Iran. Imagine if Wikipedia had an article for every person that created a moderately successful website. There would be millions of articles for all of these people. That is why Wikipedia has notability guidelines. I looked through a few of the sources above, most of this coverage looks very promotional in nature. It looks like Zamani has some kind of PR agency that is getting these short articles written and published about him (and maybe that same PR agency is getting this WP article written about him too). But none of the articles actually describe a "notable" thing (by Wikipedia's definition) that this individual has done. Yes, he created a few websites and has made some successful startup businesses. But again, a lot of people have done those things, they're not significant enough to enshrine this person forever in the world's encyclopedia. See WP:NBUSINESSPEOPLE for the types of business people that generally get articles. I'm glad you're excited about contributing to Wikipedia, but my advice would be to find something else to write about. ‑Scottywong| speak _ 16:43, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you so much ‑Scottywong for your explanation, I understand clearly now. To be honest you are the first and only person who was willing to explain the matter to me, no one was willing to explain to me anything that's why everything was confusing for me. Sure, I will find something else to write about and I think this time I know which articles I should choose. Have a great day - Best Blake44 (talk) 17:07, 29 July 2019 (UTC)