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Flag of Valencia

Hi there Banderas,

We are talking in Talk:Flag of Valencia with Zscout370 (a fellow contributor of you at FOTW) about the decree "116/1994 de 21 de junio, del gobierno valenciano, por el que se regulan los símbolos, tratamientos y honores de las entidades locales de la Comunidad Valenciana". In those months, I've searched everywhere to find a translation in english of it. It is the closest closest thing the valencian community has done to describe the ratio of its flags. Ignacio Gavira described you as the president of the SEV (spanish vexillological society)... Is there any chance that you have in your archives pictures from the Senyera coronada fully deployed in an official building? I have found one in the spanish senate and another from the Council of Alcoy, but the other part is not willing to accept them as a proof of the official use of the 2:3 flag.

I've also read in the protocole for flags in the Presidencia del gobierno that it is very strict in government buildings, but it does not explain in other civil buildings such as monuments. Are those flags in civil and public monuments also under the strict code of the protocole for flags? May we state that if a flag with 2:3 ratio is hoisted on government building such as the Palau de la Generalitat or the council of Alcoy, these are the Official ratios for the flag, even if not described exactly at any law? Would you be so kind to answer to these questions in Talk:Flag of Valencia. Thanks a lot! --Maurice27 09:51, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Hola Banderas, como ya le comentaba al usuario Zscout370, Maurice27 está obviando el hecho de que el decreto que menciona no se trata sobre la señera valenciana, sino sobre las banderas de los municipios valencianos (no en vano, el título explicita que "... se regulan los símbolos, tratamientos y honores de las entidades locales de la Comunidad Valenciana"). El decreto concreto sobre la señera valenciana es otro diferente, y está incluido como nota a pie núm. #2 en Flag of Valencia (el título menciona que "... se regulan los símbolos de la Comunidad Valencia y su uso.").

Por otra parte, el decreto sobre los municipios valencianos establece que "preferentemente" sea 2:3, pero no como norma única (Artículo 12.3: "2. La bandera será preferentemente cuadrilonga de proporciones 2:3 ..."), por lo que se pueden utilizar diferentes proporciones si así lo acuerda el Ayuntamiento. Por otra parte, el uso de las proporciones 1:2 se deben a motivos históricos que se remontan a la época del Centenar de la Ploma, una orden de caballeros militares fundada por Pedro el Ceremonioso cuya única función era salvaguardar, proteger y portar la señera valenciana. Explico sobre ello en Talk:Valencian Community. Saludos. --Benimerin - كُنْ ذكورا إذا كُنْت كذوب - 06:12, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

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I saw your email there, thanks for the heads up. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 07:02, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Flag of Asturias

Hi, you appear to be in Edit war editing the flag of article Asturias, please see the page regarding this discussion: Talk:Asturias#What.27s_up_with_the_flag.3F--Figarema |^Talk 11:47, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

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Campion High School

Hi! Campion High School in Prairie du Chien, Wisconsin no longer exists as a Jesuit high School and has not been since 1975. Therefore, I am going to revert your edit which is very inaccurate. Thank you- RFD (talk) 19:26, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. Is there a category for Jesuit high schools that are do longer in existence? Thank you-RFD (talk) 13:13, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

There was a similar problem involving the John F. Kennedy High School in St. Nazianz, Wisconsin. That high school was operated by the Salvatorian order but the high school closed also. Would there be a more generic category about the closing of secondary Roman Catholic high schools. I will take the Society of Jesus category off of the Campion High School and leave it at that for the time being. Thank you again-RFD (talk) 13:20, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Somió (Barrios)

Hi. The official laws (which, as you've seen referenced in the article, are: BOPA Nº 229 - Martes, 3 de octubre de 2006 & DECRETO 105/2006, de 20 de septiembre, por el que se determinan los topónimos oficiales del concejo de Gijón) do not talk of 10 neighbourhoods, but of the following 27 divisions:

L'Ablanu Candenal La Carbayera Candenal Les Caseríes Les Castañaliques La Corolla El Cruceru El Curiosu

Fontanía Foxanes Fuexo La Güelga La Guía La Iría El Molín de Viento El Monte Moriyón La Pipa

El Piqueru El Pisón La Providencia El Puentín La Redonda El Rinconín San Llorienzo Villamanín

Please note that the only current applicable law is "DECRETO 105/2006, de 20 de septiembre, por el que se determinan los topónimos oficiales del concejo de Gijón" which clearly states:

Artículo 2.—Denominaciones oficiales. Los topónimos así determinados tienen la consideración de denominaciones oficiales, sustituyendo a las anteriormente vigentes, si las hubiere.

(Rough translation: "Article 2.- Official names. The toponyms so established are considered the official names, replacing all the previously valid names if they exist.")

Additionaly, the Council of Gijón / Xixón states:

Estos nomes son agora oficiales a tolos efectos, d'usu obligáu per parte de les instituciones (Ayuntamientos, organismos del Principáu, etc.) en cualesquier comunicación fecha en castellanu o n'asturianu.[1]

(Rough translation: "This names are now effectively official, and of obligatory use by the institutions (City Halls, Principality's bodies, etc.) in every communication (message) made in castillian or in asturian.

Thus, the only official toponyms and territorial divisions of the Somió district are the ones stated on the aforementioned law. No other previous division or naming is official anymore, and no other institution than the Principality of Asturias can enact the official administrative divisions and toponomy of this territory.

Plus, the Wikipedia Naming conventions for places state:

Countries of Europe: (...) In case of name changes, the current widely accepted English name or in absence thereof, the current local official name is to be used.

Besides, since this is an encyclopedia, I think its just a matter of common sense: We must use the official administrative divisions and toponyms for an encyclopedic article about official administrative divisions and toponyms.

Thanks. -- · Ravenloft · ^talk 19:11, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

(Sorry for speaking english, I do it just in case any english wikipedia user follows our conversation.)

First of all, are you familiar with Wikipedia:Verifiability guidelines? In this cases, editors should provide a reliable source for any material the want to change into the encyclopedia.

In this particular case, the only official reliable source is the Principality of Asturias through the laws published in the Boletín General del Principado de Asturias (B.O.P.A.) [2]. The Principality of Asturias is the only responsible institution for territorial administrative divisions in Asturias. Evidently, no other institution, neighbour association or civil parrish assembly can enact the official divisions of the Principality of Asturias. If you have the B.O.P.A. (official document) with a different Barrio division for the parrish of Somió -which repeals the aforementioned- please provide it.

You say your map of the Unidad de Integración Corporativa del Ayuntamiento de Gijón has 10 barrios. Ok. I doesn't really matter, but anyway, there are two possible explanations: A) The map was made before the publication of the law in the BOPA 3rd October 2006. B) The map is wrong. It happens. Last week EMTUSA (a municipal company) had to remake hundreds of bus stops signs because some civil servant used a repealed BOPA with repealed toponyms.

But, as you've seen, I don't have any problem at all with having a mention to the 10 toponimic divisions you're kin to in the article. Anyway, I insist the official names must stay: We must use the official administrative divisions and toponyms for an encyclopedic article about official administrative divisions and toponyms. Provide a newer B.O.P.A. with your suggested Barrio division for the parrish of Somió before making any change.

We should keep this talk on the article page. Thanks-- · Ravenloft · ^talk 20:11, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

"DECRETO 105/2006, de 20 de septiembre, por el que se determinan los topónimos oficiales del concejo de Gijón" states the list of toponyms. A "topónimo" is not a subdivision, it´s just a name of a place. I accept the change in names of the 10 barrios to the new toponyms, but nowhere in that law it´s stated that there are new subdivisions. Perdona, pero confundir los nuevos topónimos con nuevas divisiones no es razonable.--Banderas 20:18, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I see your point, but the change of the names of the barrios which conform a parrish also implies the change of the administrative division of the parrish itself. Simple math: Same territory + lots of new toponyms = Less territory for each toponym. Anyway, until we find some reliable legal source on the matter, I propose to mention both things in the article. As a temporary measure, we could mention the 10 names you propose as traditional barrios, and the other 17 names the law mentions as places (as you know, the administrative division below "barrio" is "llugar"). Ok? -- · Ravenloft · ^talk 20:44, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Sounds like a good consensus to me. Ok then. (Btw: fixed Candenal issue) See you -- · Ravenloft · ^talk 17:59, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

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Capital

Hola que tal? Como estas? Un letra capital por favor. Spanish no spanish. Gracias The Bald One ^{White cat} 19:26, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Soccer categories

I have no clue what you are trying to accomplish with the college soccer team categories such as your edits here and here, but I see no discussion or consensus on making such changes, and I have reverted your edits that I presume were meant to empty one of the categories in order to eventually be able to tag it for speedy deletion. Please discuss such changes before making similar changes again. Thanks, VegaDark (talk) 04:46, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok, but I'm pretty sure there is going to be room for expansion in that category tree. An article on men's and women's soccer is doable, and I think there may be a couple women's soccer players notable enough for an article that just haven't been made yet. An article could also be made for the venues that men's and women's soccer is played at at OSU, so I think the category tree as it is currently is reasonable and follows the same system that other college team categories follow. VegaDark (talk) 22:03, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

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Míchel

Hello. The cited source, written by the Birmingham Mail journalist who specialises in Birmingham City F.C. news, says in the detail, "Gijon accepted a €3.2 million offer (£2.9 million) for Michel, plus a 10 per cent sell-on clause." Do you have a published source to say that's actually wrong? as opposed to the way British media sources, including in the headline of the source cited, approximate the fee to £3million so the British reader will understand it more easily? cheers, Struway2 (talk) 09:37, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

You're probably right, but the report you linked to is the same one that I mentioned above, which says €3.2 million in the body of the article, even though it says £3m in the headline... I imagine their currency conversion is to help their readers' understanding, rather than based on any knowledge of either club's banking arrangements. Perhaps when the player finally signs, Birmingham City will confirm the fee :-) I couldn't find anything on Sporting's site. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:09, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Isn't it strange? that La voz de Asturias, presumably with information direct from Sporting, have the deal done in ££ , yet the Birmingham Mail, presumably with information direct from Birmingham City, have it in €€ ... Thanks for the links, Struway2 (talk) 10:46, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Michu

Hola BANDERAS, VASCO desde Portugal (now in English),

Regarding this player, i would like for you to please leave my inputs in storyline, for two reasons: first, he was not bought by Celta de Vigo B, B clubs don't buy players, A-teams do then assign players to the reserves.

Second, i think the use of present tense in encyclopedias ("...where he remains.") is not appropriate, hence my changes.

All for the moment, hope we can collaborate together in the future, regards,

VASCO - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 13:56, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

• BANDERAS, VASCO here,

Wow! Did not expect such an answer, but OK...NEVER did (do) i want to have wrong info in WP, so if you say so, i believe you, you are obviously connected to football stuff (since you edit in the field) and are from Spain, so i believe you 100%. Did not understand that approach in your message, at all.

Will now go to Miguel Pérez Cuesta's page and compose stuff according to your sayings, i am here to help and get along with good editors (as i am sure you are).

Cheers, VASCO - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 22:15, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

• Hey man, no problems, all of us good editors (you and me and i am sure thousands of others) are here to edit properly. And yes, you are right, some articles can be really annoying to get right, just check some of my edit summaries to see how much i also get frustrated sometimes - that's the price you pay in an encyclopedia where EVERYBODY can write; in the end, we'll get it right! Thanks for your "clearing up".

Whistle whenever you need anything, i'll do the same (i edit mainly on football and - don't ask me why - mainly in Spanish), hopefully we can cooperate in articles.

From Portugal, saludos,

VASCO - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 21:15, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Some help

Hola BANDERAS, VASCO here,

Even though i do not doubt your best intentions, at Milan Smiljanić, you made several mistakes - but who doesn't make mistakes? You redirected club links, both Sporting de Gijón (no "REAL") and RCD Espanyol (has not been called "ESPAÑOL" since 1995).

And, also, the player's move is not a sale, it's a loan, i made all the pertinent corrections.

Take care, keep up the good work,

VASCO - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 20:07, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Dennis Conner

thanks for the edit i tried to do on the Olympics medal for the article on Dennis Conner it look nicer the way you did ;-)

Krazy Soviet - --Krazy Soviet (talk) 07:02, 17 Febuary 2010 (UTC)

Graham Bartram

May I ask the source for this information please? ╟─TreasuryTag►First Secretary of State─╢ 15:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks very much—I'll try to chase it up, interesting topic! ╟─TreasuryTag►Woolsack─╢ 19:30, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

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Hello. Re Míchel's birthplace. You're right, it was misleading to make that link. I'll re-add Pola de Lena in the body of the article, together with the reference that also sourced his date of birth, but format it properly as a redlink, as Pola de Lena, Lena, Asturias, but in the infobox leave it as Lena, to avoid clutter. thanks, Struway2 (talk) 19:54, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

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Hi Banderas, I see you reverted the color change I made at Niagara Purple Eagles men's ice hockey on the basis that the new color did not correspond to PMS 268. Unless there's an official conversion chart I'm unaware of, I don't know how you or the community decided that       is the "correct" conversion. When I search the web, I find a different RGB/hexidecimal equivalent at every site. Here are some of them that correspond to PMS 268:
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Niagara itself even uses three different shades of purple on its downloadable logos page. With all this variation, I believe the best solution is to match the color that Niagara uses on its athletics website. Do you disagree? Two Hearted River (paddle / fish) 14:17, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

I will accept that 4F2170 is the best match for PMS 268. The issue then becomes do we select the colors based on what the school says, or on what it does? The color used on the athletics website seems to match the actual hockey jerseys, and that's what I used when designing the uniform image. I ran into the same problem with Merrimack, where the differences are even more pronounced... Two Hearted River (paddle / fish) 20:21, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

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Hi, why don't you consider this club as a multi-sports team?

Gonzaka (talk) 10:30, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Por lo que sé, en todos los deportes de la Uni se diferencia el equipo federado del de los campeonatos universitarios, además que viendo la web de la Universidad considera tanto al equipo de fútbol como al de baloncesto (y unos cuantos más) en el mismo grupo (Página web de los federados y página web de los interuniversitarios). De todos modos, este debate es más para hacerlo en la página del equipo que vía páginas de usuario.

Un saludo. Gonzaka (talk) 10:50, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

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Segunda Pro

No es que tenga un lío, es que tenemos una diferencia de criterio.

Todo el mundo considera a la Segunda Pro, desde que la RFEF la denominó Primera B, como la nueva categoría y los equipos festejaron sus ascensos a esas ligas y nadie habla de la Primera Nacional como una liga nueva; sino que simplemente está volviendo a su nombre original. Me parece totalmente ilógico hablar de nueva tercera categoría cuando no hay ninguna fuente ni referencia ni organismo que lo considere así mientras que todos coinciden en la "nueva Segunda División"; y más aún, que el historial de esta liga la herede la nueva liga cuando ésta va a tener una absoluta continuidad simplemente bajando el nivel.

Si en vez de Segunda Pro hubiese quedado como Primera B, este debate no existiría. Asturkian (talk) 16:10, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Hola de nuevo. ¿Si al final el trío de ligas se hubiese llamado Primera/Primera B/Segunda hubieras seguido poniendo la Primera B como una continuación de la anterior Segunda? Me hubiera parecido también totalmente absurdo. No obstante, al ver esta diferencia de criterio que tenemos, he dejado la discusión en WT:FOOTY a ver si el resto del personal puede alumbrarnos con lo que haya en otros países. Asturkian (talk) 16:39, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Se explica fácil. La Tercera Divisióni ha seguido siendo la Tercera División, pese a ser la cuarta categoría, una vez creada la Segunda División B. Asturkian (talk) 16:47, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

No es cargársela. Es simplemente cambiarla de sitio. No obstante, creo que deberíamos esperar a ver qué dice el resto para ajustarnos al WP:MOS. En la Wikipedia en español apenas escribo así que allí paso de debatir lo mismo, más allá de un simple mensaje que dejé en el proyecto de fútbol femenino. Asturkian (talk) 16:56, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Aparte de tú y yo, han intervenido en la discusión tres usuarios más, los tres apoyando mi criterio e incluso uno de ellos poniendo como ejemplo el caso de la liga suiza. Sobre la coletilla de "Pro", claro que sigue usándose. La RFEF dejó de usarla para dar cabida al patrocinador. Por ejemplo, buscando "Segunda División Pro", con comillas, en Twitter (no me deja poner el enlace a la búsqueda) puedes ver ese término en mensajes de esta misma semana del Eibar, del Collerense o del Femarguín. Sobre la Wikipedia española no opino, porque casi no la piso pero lo que veo es que las ediciones de ambas ligas son casi todas tuyas. Además de lo que te dije, que 30 equipos han celebrado el ascenso a Segunda Pro (con muchas noticias anunciándolo a bombo y platillo, además de la polémica por el ascenso robado al Unión Viera, quinto clasificado canario, por la RFEF) cuando, según tu criterio de que la Primera Nacional es nueva, deberían haberse lamentado 79 descensos de categoría (12 de ellos, descendiendo además dos categorías de golpe). Asturkian (talk) 18:56, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

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Infobox school athletics

I see you just added sailing venue, but it is flagged by the template as an invalid parameter:

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That is why I removed it. Can you update the valid parameter check so this is not an error. MB 17:17, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Infobox port

I don't understand this addition to the template? What is your intention by adding it? Fob.schools (talk) 09:31, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

I've found what you were using it for. It's not necessary. Usde location instead. A good rule of thumb with infoboxes and templates is that if you think they are missing a parameter because you want to add a piece of information, just ask on the template talk page. Also if you do add a new parameter, please document it in the template documentation too, so everyone, not just you, understands the purpose of it. Fob.schools (talk) 10:26, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

There is no requirement that location should be limited to land. The documentation currently says 'Nearest city' but that is not followed very well. Changing the definition of location to include any relevant water body would be useful as it would define the location better. The template is now used for dry ports which have no waterbody whatsoever so adding a water specific parameter doesn't make sense. Open a discussion on the talk page and I will step in.

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I used the yacht club's website as a reference and took just small parts of the text, editing a ref into the reflist. I also used other websites as reference. I don't understand my blocking. I also see it's mentioned 8 previous warnings ?? never had any blocks or warnings that I know of except for automatic messages in cases that I beleived I solved. Did I make mistakes in 14 years and over 9,000 edits ? Sure I did ! and I am sorry for those mistakes. I try to do better, and I will be more carefull with the text I use from the sources, but am I creating significant disruption to be blocked for ever ? I beleive I'm not

Decline reason:

The last three warnings were manual, two left by a copyvio specialist administrator. But that's beside the point - they established that you keep repeating the same mistakes, and given the most serious nature of copyright problems the block is justified. You need to demonstrate that you understand our copyright policies before you are allowed to edit again. I'm also concerned that only 0.7% of your edits are to the user talk namespace. MER-C 16:50, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

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You are right. I had not read carefully enough the messages on my talk page previously. I did not write the texts using my own words in several edits. I am sorry. I have learned better now not to break copyrights in the future.

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Your answers will enable us to establish whether or not you should be unblocked. Yamla (talk) 11:03, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

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• Copyright is a property that owners have over their works, giving them exclusive rights to make copies of that work. *Wikipedia's text and many of its images are co-licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License (CC BY-SA) and the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL). *Copyrighted content is not allowed on Wikipedia because Wikipedia's goal is to be a free content encyclopedia, with perpetually free content for unlimited distribution. *We can use copyrighted content only when they fall into the public domain or when their copyright is explicitly disclaimed. Only brief quotations of copyrighted text may be used to illustrate a point, establish context, or attribute a point of view or idea, but, in those cases, an inline citation following the quote or the sentence where it is used is required. Also, copyrighted text that is used verbatim must be attributed with quotation marks or other standard notation, such as block quotes. Any alterations must be clearly marked, i.e., [brackets] for added text, an ellipsis (e.g.(...)) for removed text, and emphasis noted after the quotation as "(emphasis added)" or "(emphasis in the original)". I am talking only about text because that is was caused my blocking. Multimedia and images also have a copyright policy. *I intend to avoid violating the copyright policy in the future by reformulating the concepts found in the sources in my own words. I must be careful not to closely paraphrase. I must use creativity to express the information found on the source and avoid substantial similarity infringement. This is something I have not done well enough in the past.

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Procedural close - No reply to Yamla in weeks. Please try again when you are able to engage with us. SQL^{Query me!} 14:53, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

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This is not accurate. Please read WP:FAIRUSE and correct your answer. --Yamla (talk) 16:27, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing SQL. August 22nd, I wrote "I am not sure what points am I not answering unaccurately Yamla. Could you please help me ?" on my last edit summary, because I thought I could not edit anywhere else. Never received an answer. The truth is that I'm kind of lost on how to follow this process and what to do. I write here on my own discussion page to explain the issue, but I'm not sure I can do this being blocked. I'll write another unblock request to the best of my limited knowledge--Banderas (talk) 18:34, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

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I have in the past made some mistakes by using short sentences directly from sources, and even though I referenced the sources, they were excessively long and I should have used my own words. I have learned better and have read the copyright policies more carefully. I am now lost in what should I write to convince administrators that I am not a lost case.

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Please read the guide to appealing blocks for more information. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 21:47, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

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Thank you Rosguill. I'll try again.--Banderas (talk) 08:37, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Unblock - October 2020

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Banderas (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

I understand the reason for my blocking, as I have violated copyright policy in some of my edits, but I beleive the block is no longer necessary because I have learned better after reading more carefully the copyright policy and will not continue to cause damage or disruption. I will make useful contributions instead, as it was the case with my over 8.000 edits in which I have contributed with no issues in the past. I will be very carefull to write the texts with my own words not to fall again in copyright violations, as I totally agree with the policy. I will keep editing in good faith and contribute in any article improvement I am requested.

Accept reason:

See below -- Amanda (aka DQ) 19:44, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Are you willing to go through and remove any violations you made from this CCI investigation if unblocked? -- Amanda (aka DQ) 23:43, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for writing AmandaNP. Sure. I hope there aren't any more, but I'll check.--Banderas (talk) 06:56, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

@Moneytrees and Yamla: I would like to start considering conditions for unblock for this user, but would also like your input. I think the user is understanding of the issues that went wrong in the past, and the big part here is they are willing to help cleanup with their CCI, a commitment I rarely see. So my proposed terms would be a restriction preventing any File: namespace uploads, and no new articles until the CCI has been completely cleaned and reviewed. If you two want/are willing, I'd also put down that the additional restriction could be appealed to any of the three of us (or obviously AN if they wish that route). Thoughts? -- Amanda (aka DQ) 09:40, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

I've seen no demonstrated understanding of WP:FAIRUSE. But, frankly, fair use allows things that would otherwise be prohibited by copyright, so I would not object to an unblock given their commitment to help clean up their CCI. --Yamla (talk) 10:51, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

AmandaNP, I don't think a File: upload ban is necessary, but I approve of the no new articles until the CCI is complete restriction. I would like if Banderas was able to recommend Banderas appeal to one of us rather than AN since they're slow to respond to restrictions involving copyright. Moneytrees🏝️^{Talk🌴Help out at CCI!} 15:50, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

@Moneytrees: I can't prevent anyone from appealing to AN as a matter of policy. But I did look back and see that the file namespace isn't needed.

@Banderas: I am willing to unblock you with the following conditions:

• creating a new page in the mainspace, including recreating pages
• you must be making an effort to deal with your CCI as you promised to assisting with it

This may be appealed to myself, Moneytrees, or Yamla after you have completed dealing with your CCI or it can be appealed to WP:AN (as a matter of policy). Do you agree? -- Amanda (aka DQ) 16:16, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Yeah I didn't mean to say that, I meant to recommend Banderas appeal to one of us instead of AN because they'll likely turn up empty handed. Moneytrees🏝️^{Talk🌴Help out at CCI!} 16:22, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you AmandaNP. I am willing to help with my CCI and follow instructions to creating a new page in the mainspace, including recreating pages, but I'm affraid I don´t know exactly how it should be done. Can you help me?, what must I do now ? --Banderas (talk) 18:35, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Given that, I will unblock you forthwith. @Moneytrees: can help explain your next steps in regards to the CCI. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 19:43, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

I recommend reading CCI; CCI subjects aren't supposed to check articles off, but making a note under the listings showing results from your own search or saying where you copied the content from would be highly appreciated. Moneytrees🏝️^{Talk🌴Help out at CCI!} 04:37, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

@Moneytrees: @AmandaNP: I have checked the first non-checked three articles from the Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Banderas and edited the results, signing the edits, to test if that is how I should do it. Is that correct ? --Banderas (talk) 06:41, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

The two were fine (you attributed your copy from Seal of the President of the United States into Flag of the President of the United States in the edit summary so no violation, and 420 World Championships was basic list stuff so could be ignored), but the copy of Sailing into Sailing (sport) wasn't attributed and therefore was a violation. I fixed it by adding this notice to the talk page; attribution is required for article history, so please use that notice or come to me if you come across any other pages/edits you made by copying from another page. Moneytrees🏝️^{Talk🌴Help out at CCI!} 17:42, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

CCI update

--Moneytrees🏝️^{Talk🌴Help out at CCI!} 02:58, 9 November 2020 (UTC)