User talk:Academic Challenger/Archive2

Nambaryn Enkhbayar

Dear Academic Challenger,

Thank you for your answer in my discussion page.

1. If Latebird is not admin, Hallelujah! that's justice. I hope he will not become one if he continues to threaten people to suppress other people's voice and cover up facts in favor of his relative's reputation. Please tell me how Latebird's name appeared in wikipedia welcome page for user Sansar User_talk:Sansar. Because of this page, I thought he got the adminship although I didn't find in the English wikipedia admin list although I didn't check in German wikipedia admin list.

2. Nambaryn Enkhbayar is the correct name. Not Engbayer. I will edit it back because it was not a thought, it is a fact. I saw you also deleted Latebird's comments from the discussion page of Nambaryn Enkhbayar article.

You said "Strange as it may seem, there is probably a large section of the Mongolian population which still supports Engbayer, Enkhbold and the MPRP." I agree with that for Enkhbayar and MPRP case only, but not Enkhbold's case. Last news I read about Mongolia in Mongolian newspaper channel is Enkhbold's leading MPRP sent police against civil demonstrations, strikes and picketing which demand his government's resignation at Sukhbaatar square. Police has been smashing protestors' dwelling to picket. [1], [2] MPRP also organized con-demonstrators against civil demonstrations. Con-demonstrated demonstrated only 1 hour and who admitted being paid $4 per hour to demonstrate on behalf of MPRP against civil demonstrations. [3]

3. Yes, I admitted using soc-puppet which is DokDok because I couldn't have accessed to edit Nambaryn Enkhbayar article in the internet, so, I quickly created a Dokdok username to edit qucikly, because I was in a hurry. It is not purposefully used against something. I realize that you felt cheated, but that's not the case. I am an honest person, therefore, I admitted to use another account to Latebird. Otherwise, I should have written "no no no" as unmoraled selfish, many faced, corrupted MPRP people.

I agree with you about reputation. I believe in God, and I have guts and morale. I haven't done anything illegal, or I haven't written anything violating wikipedia rules such as vandalism. Therefore, there is no reason for wikipedia to block my edition as Latebird claimed.

4. My findings in internet search is user Latebird is a son of Miyeegombo Enkhbold, Mongolia's corrupted Prime Minister of non-military junta government. User Latebird studies in Canberra, Australia with Australian scholarship which he acquired through his father's connections. He attended some studies in Germany before.

Also, Latebird created and edited Tsakhiagiyn Elbegdorj's article in German wikipedia[4], which looks like containing false information by the date, I can tell, to negate Tsakhiagiyn Elbegdorj and to uprise Miyeegombo Enkhbold. He also wrote false positive article about Miyeegombo Enkhbold [5] in German wikipedia as he got Master's degree in 1987 in communist Mongolia where Master's degree was not issued until after 1995.

5. I always try to argue about content. However, out of nowhere, Latebird, suddenly began to threaten to block my edition in wikipedia without connecting to any edition of my article. Therefore, for that purpose I submitted request.

Thanks. Lemonhead 21:49, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello Academic Challenger,

I know internet coding, and computer for a while and I made a profound search and that's true User:Latebird is Miyeegombo Enkhbold's son and he is in Australia. Of course, his real name is not Latebird, since there is no such real name in Mongolia. (I've been to Mongolia many times in last few years because of my father's Kalmyk Mongolian origin and we love Mongolia.)

I wish you could read Mongolian newspapers in Mongolian. The information I provided are facts and I put the links. Why don't you edit what you consider NPOV instead of deleting the whole thing? Lemonhead 18:36, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Happy Easter! Academic Challenger,

"Strange as it may seem, there is probably a large section of the Mongolian population which still supports Engbayer, Enkhbold and the MPRP." you wrote 2 days ago on my discussion page. That is an interesting point.

I don't know whom you support politically, as a New Yorker, I didn't vote for Bush in the elections and I never ever met anyone who voted for Bush in New York, however, he still won in the elections. Everybody I know doesn't support war in Iraq, but it is still going on administered by our government. It doesn't mean that who doesn't support Bush doesn't have unreliable and unverified information. Now everybody knows that even the reason of the war itself was not reasonable or true. It means that winning party is not always right or not always verifiable.

I think people never learn certain things, that's why history repeats itself one way or another all the time because people never change. You see Julius Caesar's time, Jesus time, Bonaparte time, everytime there were betrayers, bad people who did harm and public who couldn't have prevented bad things happening or realize the reality after long time after it happened. So, why do we continue to contribute history to repeat itself. Why can't we contribute to advance it, to create shortcut as public to see the point at the same time when it is happening?

Back to the point, from my observation of travelling in Mongolia and reading about it, ex-communist MPRP era lasted in Mongolia too long a whole generation and it almost became a religion over there. That's why most old people support MPRP because they didn't have religion which was prohibited by the communist system and in their mindset, they filled the gap of a superior protector by MPRP as a result of former-communist party's brainwashing propaganda. Now after democracy came to the country 17 years ago, the old people who lived in MPRP era most of their lifetime can't get rid of their "religion" MPRP so easily. It is also a same thing that people can't stop drinking coffee or it is very hard for smokers to stop smoking no matter we all know they are bad for health.

Former MPRP of cold war time was different that it had a goal for communism. Present MPRP doesn't have that goal, it is simply playing Mongolian public's attached or addicted mind to "MPRP" name. Even the leaders of the MPRP of old time and present time are different. Now it is a bunch of corrupted people surrounded by wealthy bussinessmen who use "MPRP" power for their business gains. Marginal public confuse with the same name of "MPRP", therefore, large portion of Mongolians still think MPRP is valuable although it hasn't done anything useful to the society during its power in democratic time of Mongolia. It is same thing that if Starbucks begins to sell bad quality coffee and said that it has a new goal for coffee, majority of the people who used to drinking Starbucks coffee will still be going there because of the Starbucks name for a while until the addiction is gone or until totally persuaded that the coffee is no good anymore. It takes simply time and the timing for a whole society or country, it takes longer.

In addition, in the last few elections MPRP was reported to be giving $4-5 to old people before elections day, elections fraud for vote counting as well as moving large amount of voters from one province to another by bus, and false attractive promises.

Also there are the children of MPRP leaders who are taking the advantage of their parents to study abroad without competition in public. Some old MPRP members are still loyal to the name of MPRP no matter how much its goal has changed. MPRP name, elections irregularities, and gainers from MPRP and loyal followers give support for MPRP. That's what I understand from the situation. Lemonhead 19:52, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Dear Academic Challenger,

Thank you. I just saw your edit. You did a wonderful job for editing as NPOV for the Nambaryn Enkhbayar article. I think you are one of the best editors in English wikipedia.

Similar events of demonstrations are happening both in Nepal and in Mongolia demanding the resignation of Nepalese king and Mongolia's president & government, however, international news is covering only Nepal. When some more developments come up in English news about Mongolia and the object, may be we continue to extend the article. I agree with you over that.

About phrasing the expression of others I also agree with you.

About Latebird, on February 24 he kept posting false elevated paragraphs about Miyeegombo Enkhbold and kept deleting negative facts about him. I reverted that several times in Miyeegombo Enkhbold article. You went in and changed the article into NPOV, I think. From that I try to begin to see the logic of Latebird's these actions. Perhaps he meant well, but it was not logical to keep posting not logical data about Miyeegombo Enkhbold as he got Master's degree in 1987 when the timing and place was impossible, and conflicting dates and tons of different positions which he kept changing in the article for Enkhbold's early careers etc. About his location, I found it from my search. In general, I don't care whoever Latebird is. Only thing is I want wikipedia not to contain false info, therefore, I began to contribute for accuracy of articles about things that I found conflicting comparing to other sources. Finally, I wish Latebird well. Lemonhead 22:43, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Dear Academic Challenger,

Thank you very much. Lemonhead 22:30, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Moose

My name is a pun, derived from the city. I don't care if you or anybody else is offended by my name. But you don't care about anything but yourself-- you are a very important person and my freedom of thought and action exists only insofar as it accords with your personal value judgments. You should realize that we live in the 21st century, and your type of thought-control facism died with the 60s.--Islamisbad 00:09, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Thetan

Hello. Will you please go to every religon's article page where they define what "spirit" means to that particular religion and insert this line which you inserted into the thetan article, please? "There is no scientific evidence that indicates the existence of an individual as a spirit or, after death, as a ghost." That way we can be assured that Wikipedia is NPOV, treating all religons equally.  :) Terryeo 09:28, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Oh, I'm sorry. But I think you don't know what Dr. Schwanz really means. Or. I'm a student on germany's best university TU Darmstadt. Well, thanks.

Miyeegombo Enkhbold

Dear Academic Challenger, I also try to edit article for facts. Why do you think I am making personal attacks? The first person who is claiming and talking badly about Lemonhead is Latebird. If Academic Challenger, you think you are a good editor, why are you siding with Latebird talking we? You are POV youSya rself. So you can't be good editor. Why Latebird is covering up negative facts of Miyeegombo Enkhbold in favor of Miyeegombo Enkhbold and try to defame Democratic Party people including Mendsaikhan Enkhsaikhan by reportedly editing the text to look him bad/ Lemonhead 14:27, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Latebird is attacking me now. I suggested Latebird can be either Miyeegombo Enkhbold is 1/ Latebird's idol or 2/ his relative or whoever bribed him and gained illegal financial gain. But common sense is nobody idolize someone who is lower than the person. So, I assume Latebird belong to the second category, and according to wikipedia policy it is prohibited to contribute an article by the relative. Lemonhead 14:47, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi, glad I found someone who is interested in political figures. I need a second (or third) opinion on the current prime minister of Mongolia. Care to comment there? --Latebird 22:01, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. But I suspect User:Lemonhead needs some direct admin intervention before he stops his crusade. --Latebird

Sorry I have to bother again. Unfortunately the issue has turned into the beginning of an edit war (sources vs. opinion) and I am subjected to personal attacks both in edit summaries and talk. My warnings and arguments have fallen on deaf ears. Now I need at least one other person trying to talk reasonably with User:Lemonhead, as a basis for more formal steps against him. Thanks for any help you can give! --Latebird 12:55, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Dear Academic Challenger,

I researched on your edits and found out that you like positions of people in politics. There is smaller commonality between you and user Latebird that you both like positions. I observed from your edits that you both focus mostly on positions, titles of people such as deputy president, prime minister, chairman of department so on. I focus on the outcomes of people's work and deed to society to other people rather than their position. I guess our difference begins from here. Therefore, we are arguing a lot.

Academic Challenger, you first created article in wikipedia on Tsakhiagiyn Elbegdorj after he became prime minister and there are hundreds of edits by people since that time. But your own created article about Elbegdorj, he "made revolution by standing on chair" doesn't sound realistic. I don't think revolution is so tiny or easy as simply done by talking from standing on chair. You didn't cite that and your POV begins from there. But it looks like that text long been changed since. If you see revolution history, you will see what I mean.

About your suggestion that I am a relative or employee of Elbegdorj, Hallalouya!! I wish I were but unfortunately not. I want to become an apprentice of Elbegdorj if it is possiible and to learn from him doing lots of great works to society in the shortest period of time especially his speed. If he or his office ever reads this, or anyone who knows how to approach him please advise me for how to apply. I consider Tsakhiagiyn Elbegdorj is a living legend and since nobody today has a chance to be a student from other legends such as Genghis Khan, Julius Caesar, and Napoleon Bonaparte.

For Miyeegombo Enkhbold's case, his work has lots of controversies towards society from land related corruption to illegally overthrowing Elbegdorj's government and took the prime minister's position. However, Academic Challenger and Latebird it looks like you both love the position of him rather than what he did to people as forcing poor families to leave their land with arrogance using his position only. Therefore, whoever, keeps deleting the facts no matter whether it is negative or positive, that person should have a reason.

That is what I meant. Lemonhead 16:29, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Dear Academic Challenger,

Thank you for your comments. I agree with you over formatting issue. I will try to improve myself over that too. Lemonhead 21:42, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Dear Academic Challenger,

Please check Talk:Miyeegombo_Enkhbold about Latebird's and I last discussion about the article which happened a while ago. It may be helpful to understand why Latebird began to throw personal threat yesterday Lemonhead 22:04, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello Academic Challenger,

Please check Latebird's false accusations and complaints in Wikipedia:Personal_attack_intervention_noticeboard and my answer to that. Thanks. Lemonhead 21:06, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Ben Bailey?

Why did you delete an article titled Ben Bailey. I was wondering if the article existed because of his role as a tv show host of the show Cash Cab, or if it involved something else. I am considering resurrecting it in that context, so any info on the circumstances of deletion would be greatly appreciated. Angrynight 02:11, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Oke-dokey- thanks for the heads up. Angrynight 02:56, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Uh, I'm wandering if you could unprotect Ben bailey so it can redirect to the stub Ben Bailey- Thanks Angrynight 03:39, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Tsakhiagiyn Elbegdorj

I'm very impressed with how you cleaned up this article. I would award you a barnstar, but I don't know of any "East Asian politician cleanup" barnstars...--Aleron235 03:02, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

I am blown away

Honestly after seeing you on the AN, and finding out that your are blind, and a super fast vandel figher I just wanted to say I am blown away and it made me realize that I take my eyes for granted. I am curious though, how do you use the computer? Text to speech or something else like a text to brail? Keep up the good work and if you need someone to look at a image to see if its appropriate or to check anything regarding images (I am not an admin, but I sure can let you know if its ok to delete a particular image or not) just let me know!! Mike _{(T C)} 06:11, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

User page vandalism

Hi. Just a note to say thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page. Cheers TigerShark 02:45, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Admin Coaching

Hey! Thanks for signing up in Wikipedia:Esperanza's Admin coaching program. Since you've volunteered to help train a user, I've assigned Petros471 to you and to your partner, Knowledge Seeker. Please make sure to be kind and helpful to your coachee. If you have any questions, let me know. Thanks again! Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 21:51, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Hello! I see that you've also kindly volunteered to help with Admin Coaching. I'm not sure if you had any particular ideas in mind for what to do (if so feel free to go ahead!). Knowledge Seeker asked me what I wanted, and I replied saying any general feedback on how I'm doing would be good. See here. I suggested there that I set up a subpage in my userspace to keep all this stuff together, as there are three of us involved it would probably might life simpler rather than spreading things out over all our talk pages. Sound good? Petros471 19:23, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

I've created a subpage at User:Petros471/AC. See you over there :) Petros471 13:19, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Noticed I gave you a duff link above (now fixed)! Knowledge Seeker has posted his first glance comments, you are welcome to do the same. I've also put up some questions that you might want to have a go at answering. Cheers, Petros471 11:09, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't want to rush it, but I keep coming across situations were admin tools would be rather handy. For example I've been doing quite a lot of work on WP:RFI recently, and whilst there is quite a lot I can do there it would be nice to have that final resort of 'block'; as well as all the other fancy anti-vandalism stuff that comes with the mop. So what I'm basically saying is would you mind taking another look at my AC page to add any further feedback, and maybe an indication as to when to go for RfA (after sorting out any other suggestions you come up with first of course!). Thanks :-) Petros471 20:31, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

move

As an admin you ought to know better than to use copy-and-paste instead of move and, worse, to then claim that you have moved an article. I refer to Christoph Leiwe. OK it's just some kids vanity but he still deserves credit for it in the page history. -- RHaworth 08:44, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Jeremy Barnes

Hey, I just noticed you deleted the article on Jeremy Barnes. Slight problem - it seems like you deleted a vandalized version of it. The article was about an artist involved with The Elephant Six Collective, and the version you appear to have deleted has nothing to do with what was there when I last saw it. Could you please check the history on it and see if it was in error? The archived mirror at answers.com is here, and I'd rather not recreate it and set off any alarms if I don't have to. Thanks in advance. --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEME?) 03:24, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

User page revert

Please do not undo my edits to Tomyumgoong's userpage. We're friends engaging in a sort on in-joke. Thanks! qi

Self-improvement

Holi greetings from an Indian wikipedian. I have been around here for about a year, including being an administrator from 18th September 2005. I request you to kindly do me the favor of providing me your valuable comments and suggestions on my contributions, activities and behavior pattern. I shall be awaiting your free and frank opinion, which you are most welcome to kindly give here. Thanks. --Bhadani 15:55, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments. You are most welcome to India. --Bhadani 15:36, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Cool new word

i was trying to put a CSD tag on this article, but it was deleted before i was finished, meaning i created it again after it was deleted. you might want to delete it again. thanks.--B.U. Football For Life|Talk 01:20, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

it was a bloody good article The one i wrote about 10 minutes ago Shame on you

thanks i do try to be funny Fair enough about the famous bit. I LOVE wikipedia. ahem, suck up

No To Frauds / No To Nuts

Seems to be a fanatical editor...guarding the Kriya Yoga and Mahavatar Babaji pages from other POVs. Just thought I'd let you know since the discussion pages seem to twist your words. James. 71.116.184.140 07:11, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Vote for weather

As a regular contributor to the article about weather, I would urge you to vote for it at WP:AID. This will help attract more contributors to the article. - Samsara (talk • contribs) 01:23, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Since you did it once before...

Requesting speedy deletion: SOMIL MAKHIJA HP. Thanx 68.39.174.238 08:06, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

MGIB

Thank you for your concern, but none of the less, these benefit which affect the lives of Millions of individuals are commonly know by these acrynoms or abreviation or slang term. So if you disagree with what I am doing make each link a Ambiguous page. Paul.Paquette

George

Hi. I wonder if you know anything about George Sassoon's surviving child. Deb 16:49, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about that

That was the result of a massive squidward attack and the bot rapidly trying to fix it, I guess you beat the bot to a revert and thats what happened -- Tawker 08:21, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Deleted articles

I write briefly to thank you for your continued vigilance in deleting articles; you managed to delete three today just as I was preparing to AfD them. Thanks for saving me the time! Joe 23:22, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Swiëggën Swiäggen

Swiëggën Swiäggen is a completely legitimate key. Please stop deleting articles on it. As proof, here is a composition written in the key of Swiëggën Swiäggen. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sonata_in_Swieggen_Swaggen_0001.JPG

Deletion of articles on completely legitimate musical theory and foundations

Swiëggën Swiäggen is a completely legitmiate musical key. See the attatched composition which is written in Swiëggën Swiäggen. If a piece is written in a key, then the key exists! Are we trying to promote free information, or destroy it?!

File:Sonata in Swieggen Swaggen 0001.JPG

User talk:AssBurgler

Please try and keep a cool head, despite comments people may make against you. Personal attacks and disruptive comments will only escalate a situation; please keep calm and action can be taken against the other parties if necessary. Your involvement in attacking back can only satisfy trolls or anger contributors, and lead to general bad feeling. Please try and be civil. Thanks! (CJ) JHMM13 (T | C) 07:20, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

I would just like to inform you that I have lodged a request for inquire with the folks at ArbCom for your blocking of AssBurgler and the way you addressed him on his talk page. If you have any comments, please direct them there, and if you would like to explain some of this outside of that forum, please respond on my talk page to better clarify the situation. Thanks, JHMM13 (T | C) 07:36, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, I am now completely satisfied. I will remove my complaint from ArbCom as you have adequately shown me the reasoning behind these actions. I only went there because it appeared you were not answering my request, and perhaps I was a bit hasty. Thank you again, and I hope to see you around! JHMM13 (T | C) 07:47, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

dude

Hey Challenger whyd you do that u earsed my article about my ownself whats with that aint right i was just starting it ok just saying dont be a jerk bye

                                   Anthony T. Harris

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1

Reach out Reach out is a program aimed at allowing users to bring issues that they have had in Wikipedia to a listening, sympathetic and caring audience: "No one can know how we feel if we do not say. We cannot expect to get understanding if we do not ask for it. No one will dispute that sometimes life's issues are too much for one person. It is fair to say that sometimes Wikipedia's problems fall under the same heading. This is a place where you can bring the bruises that can sometimes be got on this project for attention." Stress Alerts The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them. Note from the editor Welcome to this new format of the Esperanza Newsletter, which came about during the last Advisory Council meeting - we hope you like it! The major changes are that each month, right after the Council meeting, this will be sent out and will include two featured programs and a sum up of the meeting. Also, it will be signed by all of the Advisory Council members, not just Celestianpower. Have an Esperanzial end of March, everyone!

The last AC meeting (full log) Future meetings are to be held monthly, not fortnightly as before. Bans and Access level changes (apart from autovoice) in the IRC channel are to be reported at the new log. In the IRC channel, there is going to be only one bot at a time. The charter requires members to have 150 edits and 2 weeks editing. Why this is the case will be clarified. A new Code of Conduct will be drafted by JoanneB and proposed to the Esperanza community. The NPA reform idea is to be dropped officially. Charter ammendments are to be discussed in future, not voted on. The Advisory Council is not going to be proposed to be expanded by the Advisory Council themselves, if others want to propose it, they will listen. Signed... Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 17:47, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

De'Prod'd Articles

You reverted Ste g's removal of my prod tag on Le Crap. However, according to the rules of Wikipedia:Proposed deletion, a prod tag cannot be restored once it's been removed. I've replaced the prod with an AfD nomination. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Le Crap if you'd care to register an opinion on it. Thanks! -- JLaTondre 15:34, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Charles Edward Cheese

When you told me that my article was nonsense, I was at first offended. Then, two things crossed ny mind:

• You had to have been on the Charles Edward Cheese article to have insulted it.
• You treated it as nonsense because it was harsh on Chuck E. Cheese.

Knowing this info, I have come to the conclusion that you are Chuck E. Cheese. Deleting my article that put you in a bad light was only part one of your evil plan to take over the universe! You don't want any internet sites from stopping you in your universal conquest. hanks to people like me, the whole world will not have to learn to speak Cheesish. 1028 22:47, 29 March 2006.

Nonsense

By the way, the Wikipedia definition for nonsense is

• Total nonsense - i.e. text or random characters that have no assignable meaning at all. This includes things like "1`- 5bl[9 1vn]304 0=10am[0v9a1 7", where random keys of the keyboard have been pressed.
• Content that, while apparently meaningful after a fashion, is so completely and irredeemably confused that no intelligent person can be expected to make any sense of it whatsoever.

My IQ is 162 and I was able to understand the main idea of the CEC article : Chuck E. Cheese is very insane. So next time you accuse something of being nonsense, think first. -1028

Impossibility

• Is it impossible to lose a basketball game?
• Is it impossible to be born in a log cabin?
• Is it impossible to have your parents get killed by crazy rednecks?
• Is it impossible to dump a rat into boiling toxic uranium?
• Is it impossible to start a pizza place?
• Is it impossible to attack someone because you think they're a stranger?
• Is it impossible to have diarrhea on your walls?
• Is it impossible to make $50?
• Is it impossible to invade the Czech Republic?
• Is it impossible to win an employee of the month election by a narrow margin?
• Is it impossible to demand a recount?

-1028

Have an orange bar (AC notice)

Just to let you know I've posted a new section on User:Petros471/AC. Petros471 11:20, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

• I've been pretty busy in real life this week, and will be until middle of next week, so no rush - but if you've got time could you take a look at the page Knowledge Seeker set up and if you're willing to nominate me put in the nominator statement. I assume KS was then planning to move that to the official RFA page. Cheers, Petros471 21:59, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

deletion

Please have a little consideration - how about asking whether something that has existed about 30 seconds is under development before you delete it? Yours, For great justice. 00:23, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Truse

you have not called any of my ariticles nonsense in two days. Have you surrendered? If so, please abide by the following rules:

• 1.Chuck E. Cheese is a real person.
• 2.The Charles Edward Cheese article gets to stay.
• 3.You must donate $1,000,000 to the WACEC(Wikipedians Against Chuck E. Cheese) Fondation

1028 23:48, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

1028

What if I were to make an article about why you are the greatest man who ever walked the face of the earth, but it is nonsense?1028 01:37, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

You are the greatest man who ever walked the face of the earth

So if I do an article puting you in a bad light, but it is nonsense, you would block me But if I do an article putting you in a good light, but it is nonsense, you let somneone else take care of it. You are one biased little fellow.What if I were to do an article about why I am the greatest man in the universe?1028 05:56, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

"I began my contributions to Wikipedia by expanding articles about twentieth century and current political figures, particularly american politicians but also politicians from other countries." You said. This must explain you editing a Chuck E. Cheese article1028 06:20, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Kaleb Marshall

please do not delete the article i created titled kaleb marshall. although i do know him personally, he is a professional photographer that has worked with several bands in the past and he is currently working on a documentary on the underground hip-hop/punk scene. he is very well known where he currently works and goes to school. thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaleb1989 (talk • contribs)

Nonsense

When you viciously said that you would block me, did you mean for writing articles with the stuff you call nonsense or for writing articles about you?1028 15:34, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Your messages make up a majority of my talk page. Mine make up more than 1/5 of yuors. I am going to suggest a truce once more;I will make three guidelines and you will make three guidelines. PLease respond with your guidelines and I will shortly after respond with my guidelines1028 15:55, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Truce

• 1. Don't post articles or messages to other users attacking you.
• 2. Don't edit your user page.
• 3. Stop posting any articles related to Charles Edward Cheese or any other nonsense.
• 4. Don't delete Kaleb Marshall's article or the Le Crap article
• 5. Don't edit my user page
• 6. Tell me your first name
• Do you agree to this?

Current vandalism

I am currently monitoring a rash of vandalism by 65.87.235.51 and otheres. Is there a way we can work together?

Deletion

Hi. You deleted the article Geirut, which was a redirect to Conversion to Judaism. It's a common spelling and it seems that if someone enters that, that's the only thing they're loking for. Is there a problem with creating such a wikipedia page? Since this seems like important Wikipedia information can you please post your reply on my talk page? Thanks! Avraham 05:55, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Geirut

First of all, thanks for telling me that it's proper to add new posts to the bottom. Secondly, I made Geirut is that better? I guess I just had a brain far or something if I forgot to enter redirect. Thanks for catching it. By the way, I see a lot of stuff in the deletion log that looks interesting. Is there a way to see archived copies of deleted articles. Not even so I can recreate them or anything but for example if I want to get a good look at a vanity page. Thanks a lot! Avraham 06:11, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

guess I'll just have to wait until I'm an admin :-). .. Thanks for your reply and everything! Avraham 23:48, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Re. minor edit to Arcata, California page

Greetings. I recently added an external link to the Arcata,_California page and it appears you reverted it practically instantaneously. I'm wondering why... The link was to a local (to Arcata) non-profit group - The Placebo - that I saw had been mentioned in the article. There is no Wikipedia article on the group, which is fine, but since someone mentioned it, I thought it would be helpful to have a link for more information. Directly after I made the change, I edited the "Talk" page to explain what I was doing, but you don't seem to have responded to me there. So, is there a problem with my edit? And if so, may I ask what it is? Thanks _dao (member of The Placebo which now has a Wikipedia account) the placebo 03:52, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2

Barnstar Brigade The Barnstar Brigade is a new program aimed at giving more very deserving yet unappreciated users barnstars. It will officially start on 2006-04-09, but signing up is encouraged before this date: "Here in Wikipedia, there are hundreds of wikipedians whose work and efforts go un-appreciated. One occasionally comes across editors who have thousands of good edits, but because they may not get around as much as others, their contributions and hard work often go un-noticed. Sadly, these editors often leave the project. As Esperanzians, we can help to make people feel appreciated, be it by some kind words or the awarding of a Barnstar. A project the size of Wikipedia has thousands of editors, so there are plenty of people out there who deserve recognition, one just has to find them. The object of this program is not to flood editors with Barnstars, but to seek out people who deserve them, and make them feel appreciated." Stress Alerts The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them. Information Welcome to the second issue of the new format Esperanza Newsletter - we hope you still like it! This week, it was delivered diligently by our new dogsbody. MiszaBot (run by Misza13): any execution complaints should go to him. Content comments should be directed at the Esperanza talkpage. Thanks!

The last AC meeting (full log) The next elections: Approval voting as before and, also as before, an previous leadership member can run. Please submit your name for voting in the relevant section of this page. Voting starts on 2006-04-23 and ends on 2006-04-30. There will be three places up for grabs as KnowledgeOfSelf is leaving Wikipedia. Please see the previously linked page for full details. The Code of Conduct is now ready for extensive discussion! Specific comments should go to the Code of Conduct talk page, discussion of having one at all should be directed to the main Esperanza talk page. The current process for accepting proposals for new programs has been deemed fine. All Advisory Council members and the Admin Gen are to endevour to be bold when viewing discussion. If they feel that consensus has been reached, they will act accordingly. A plea from the editor... The propsed programs page is terribly underused! Please leave any comments, good or bad, on the page, to help us determine the membership's thoughts on the ideas there. Signed... Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 19:53, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Ben Foster

Please forgive me for the rude edits I have made recently. I have just read the vandalism article, and I want to help maintian the site's integrity. Please allow the recreation of the new "Ben Foster" page. Ben Foster is a campus politician who opposes an organization called The Machine. If you still do not believe Ben Foster is a relevant Wikipedia topic, I strongly encourage you to read the Wikipedia article entitled "The Machine," and perhaps then you will have a better understanding of the cause.

Perhaps There is Another...

Perhaps there is another article I have not yet read. What criteria determines whether or not something deserves a Wikipedia Page? I certainly think the topics on the Ben Foster page would serve the greater good far more than a Wikipedia page such as "Shock Sites." If you still do not think this to be a noteworthy cause, I again encourage you to read the article entitled "The Machine."

It seems to me...

It seems to me that it would serve the greater good to begin compiling the information on a person as they rise in prominence. While Ben may not pass all of those tests, I think there would be merit in allowing the creation of the page.

Just a few more thoughts...

Again, I may have misunderstood, but I think one criterion that would merit a page is whether or not someone would want information on the person 100 years from now. I know I am currently studying the politicians who lost their respective races for governor of Alabama. One can lose a prominent race for governor and still be relevant 100 years later. It seems to me one can learn as much from losing campaigns as from winning them. I use this as an example to suggest the relevance of individuals today. If John Doe pledges to run for governor in twenty years, his rise to prominence (and the worthiness of his wikipedia page) is defensible. While I understand the importance of having Watchdogs for Wikipedia, I am fearful that current edits by your colleagues could result in the hampering of free speech. As the Wikipedia guidelines suggest, the judging of a person's notoriety is "contentious." I personally feel that any accurate information should not be hindered from being put on Wikipedia. The facts I had posted about Ben before you cleaned the page and accused me of vandalism could have been checked on the University of Alabama website.

You're right...

You're right. Wikipedia can not allow a page for every person with a bright future. It would create far too many pages for you and your colleagues to review. However, how can one limit free speech by setting standards to contribute accurate information to a "free" commnuity of learning? Setting crieria for a person to have a page makes Wikipedia like a country club. In essence, it is elitist in nature. And elitism is one of the reasons why The Machine has a choke hold on the University of Alabama and the state's politics.

Perhaps...

Perhaps then one day our society will advance to the point where we do have access to online encycolpedias that are both completely open to the public while still remaining dedicated to the truth. I know encyclopedias are elitist in nature, and I know that Wikipedia is much less elitist than the Brittannicas of the world. However, Wikipedia could be even less elitist if those of you so highly dedicated to the project were firmly dedicated to broadening its scope. I know it will do nothing to garner a page for Ben, but I still think documentation of eeven the simplest of a person's accomplishments could serve the greater good more than an article on "Monsterism" which educates people on the satirical religion of spaghetti monsterism. As far as free spech goes, while the United States is one of the few nations that guarantees it, I feel that it is an inherent right. It is true, in parts of our world, people are not able to excersice this right. However, I firmly believe the Internet should not be a place that denies that right.

Tawkerbot2 Message

It looked @ http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pecker&diff=prev&oldid=24354539 what happened was the word "penis" is 99% of the time vandalism in an unrelated article and it caught it. Sorry about that -- Tawker 08:58, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Justina Chen Headley

I believe that Justina Chen Headley is a notable alumni, since she was announced several times by Monta Vista High School as being so. She is a prominent writer, if you have not seen her website. .::Arbitrary::. 18:17, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Mater Dei High School (Santa Ana, California)

Hi there. You protected this about 12 days ago. Since WP:SEMI is for dealing with serious, current vandals, I figure it's been more than long enough to unprotect it now. Can I ask you to check your other recent protections and lift them as necessary, also to remember protections in general? CAT:SEMI is nearly 100 items, most of them seem to have been forgotten by the protecting admin. Thanks. -Splash^talk 22:16, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Talk Ex-Yugoslavia

Talk:Kosovo#2 Administrator for Ex-Yugoslavien articels in Wikipedia- The voice of Kosovar

RfA thanks from Petros471

For a more general RfA thanks to all voters see User:Petros471/RFA Thanks.

Last, but certainly not least, thanks goes to you Academic Challenger for your willingness to nominate me, and for the admin coaching. I'm going to leave my first 'real' admin action till tomorrow, after I've had some sleep (and decided what it should be!). Cheers, Petros471 21:20, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations on your adminship. I'm sorry that I did not vote on your RFA. I did not realize that your nomination was already in process because I do not generally read RFA. I am sure you will be a great admin and it is great that you got even more comments on how to improve. I would just say that I disagree with people who think that admins need to be good article writers. Do what you feel like. If you feel like editing and writing more articles, that's great, but if you feel like policy discussion, reverting vandalism, or speedy deletions and new pages patrol, (those last two are my own favorite tasks which need some more admins to help out) that is also great. Academic Challenger 22:05, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry about it- if I was desperate for the extra support I could have messaged you (think I might have got away with that as you were nominator). I thought you hadn't, either because you didn't realise that you could vote as well as nominate (seems a bit strange in a way that you do, I mean if you've nominated it's petty obvious you support!), or because of what you said. I haven't been able to do much so far, what with Wikipedia servers being down so much, followed by my internet going down. Now just to make sure I don't flip and go on a deletion rampage... Cheers, Petros471 20:57, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

deletion

Yes, I know I am rephrasing... but it's only because I totally agree with the person who said it before me: Please have a little consideration - how about asking whether something that has existed about 30 seconds is under development before you delete it? I'm not experimenting, the Sally edit is for educational purposes, I'd be really thankful if you don't delete what on your own personal criteria is non-sense, have consideration please, we're not trying to affect anyone here.

fictional or real?

Of course it's about real people, why on earth would i make fictional characters, i have more important things to do... Are they famous? Obviously not to you or in your context, but they are notable for something, just have in mind that i cannot edit that much work in a few minutes, you should know it's really not that easy, i have school to get done with, i have construction work, as in archit. construction site, and many other responsibilities to dedicate 2,3,4 hours of my day to finish a whole article. Please have a little consideration, i know you can understand.

matter of think

you know what i think... you don't respect freedom of speech and you for some reason believe you're great... i bet there are a thousand more people thinking you're a total jerk. You like having power on the internet... sorry... a very very very small portion of the internet, very very small, petite... well that is the only place where you can have power, in the real world... well who cares about you? Thanks for letting me know what the deal is here in the wikipedia, i honestly don't mind if i don't get that article, but i do like to speak my mind... well, there it is then. au revoir, govno jedno. ask a serbian what that last means.

Admin coaching

Hey, how are you? I saw that your admin coaching with Petros471 has been successful (congrats!). I was curious whether you had time/energy to take on another coachee (don't worry if you don't, I understand completely). Thanks for your time, and you can leave a message either with me or TitoXD. EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 19:44, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

your username

Ha! At school I'm president of a club called Academic Challenge. We mainly do quiz bowl related stuff. M1ss1ontomars2k4 23:23, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Politicians

Hello and thanks for the message! I will be certain to keep that in mind - it's an easy way to avoid annoyances in the future. Good that you pointed it out, and please keep in touch, suggestions/advice are always welcome. Paul 17:18, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Old Skool Esperanzial note

Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. --Celestianpower ^háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Question.

I have a question about editing article, because My editings have been reverted. In yesterday, I added the definition of Suggestion on article Suggestion, but It was deleted today. I think that other wikipedian considers vandalism. Even I didn't put nonsense information on that. So, Does article have to be good information? Is definition of Suggestion necessary for good article on Suggestion? or not? I think that it would be good for making article better. I hope that other wikipedian accept my edition. So, Please Send me message. Ok? cheers. Have a great day. DANIEL89 05:42, 24 April 2006(UTC)

Wikidefender awarded!!!

I, Kukini, hereby award Academic Challenger the WikiDefender Barnstar for incredibly efficient and consistent wikidefense. Kukini 23:16, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Academic Challenger 23:19, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Nicola Tesla Inventors' Club

Thanks AC. Thanks a lot for your good natured patience and understanding.

The club is actually just starting out and having spent only a few minutes browsing around WikipediA, I am starting to realize that it is an encyclopedia and as such would unlikely create whole pages about clubs themselves.

Perhaps the most appropriate (if that) would be a single entry in the Outside links section of Nikola Tesla page that would take the reader to a privately hosted www.mediawiki.com

While one of the purposes of the club will be how to get patents and how to commercialize their inventions, the club will be creating pages (somewhere) with valuable original content as well as "executive summaries" laced with useful WikipediA pages and or outside links.

What do you think?

Thanks again, Frank

Buffalo bean/Golden bean

I note that you deleted these redirects and then recreated them. Why might this be? Denni ☯ 15:34, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

• I restored the redirects I had created and found that (as I remembered), the number signs were there. I also tested the redirects after I created them to ensure they worked properly. I'm not sure what you were looking at. Just a note: if you find a problem with an article, it is never a good idea to delete it and recreate it. First, Wikipedia has some fairly stringent rules about deleting anything, and second, deleting an article also deletes its history, which is a Very Bad Thing. Not to worry, though - in this case, no harm was done (except for the loss of the history of these, which is no big loss to me). Denni ☯ 00:06, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Truce Breaking

As you might recall from a couple weeks aago , we had made a truce It stated "*4. Don't delete Kaleb Marshall's article or the Le Crap article" Yet, when I went to the discussion page for deleting the Le Crap article, I saw this written on it "If Wikipedia existed in the early twentieth century and you posted an article about Picaso before he became famous, or if anyone else did, it should have been deleted because it is impossible tl tell for sure who will be a famous artist or musician. Someone would eventually notice this article, and only good articles should be in Wikipedia. Academic Challenger 21:53, 1 April 2006 (UTC)". Not only did you complain about the LE Crap Article, but it was deleted. Unless you can prove to me that the deleter was not you, I am not doing my share of the truce. 1028 00:47, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Vandalistic Edit

Hey, it's fine by me. That stuff is sick-witted and should be automatically censored. I also knew it wasn't you who said that stuff. By the way, what's going on?-user:Crisspy