User talk:91.237.86.201

MSBS

See article talk page, and stop edit warring (3RR). --E-960 (talk) 09:44, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

91.237.86.201 before editing further, please the response from the Ministry of Defence, it states that out of the 40,000 rifles delivered only 3,705 had to be sent back to the manufacturer for repairs and only because of an issue with the magazines (not the rifle itself), also regarding ONet's claim that "Grot rozpadł się podczas strzalania" to nie jest prawda! Takie uszkodzenie miało miejsce 1 raz z 40 tys." So, pls consider that your text in the article is one-sided and inaccurate. That's why it's good not to rush on Wikipedia trying to base entire text on news articles instead of high quality sources. --E-960 (talk) 10:26, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

But Ministry of Defence don’t write how many rifles have malfunctions, they write only how many are send back to manufacturer. Onet is high quality source. There is second high quality source from Milmag confirmed many problems with this rifle . Third source is Defence 24 together with FB Radom - manufacturer of Grot rifles.TV republika is fake political news page, its low quality source. --91.237.86.201 (talk) 10:36, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

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Edit warring

Your recent editing history at FB MSBS Grot shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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TV Republika is fake news page, its low quality source.--91.237.86.201 (talk) 11:29, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Stop edit warring or you will be blocked, an online news portal doing its own "test" is not a quality source, its nothing more then yellow journalism. --E-960 (talk) 14:52, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

But Milmag is quality source.--91.237.86.201 (talk) 16:06, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

hmmm... this article titled "Atak na Groty a ukraiński przetarg. Niemieckie media w interesie niemieckich firm” ("Attack on Grot and the Ukrainian tender. German media in the interest of German companies" tries to shed a bit of insight as to why all of a sudden this Polish made rife is getting all the attention and why so many people are pushing a negative narrative about it. --E-960 (talk) 06:32, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Its bullshit, because Ukraine is looking for AR15 rifle with weight under 3,26 kg. It mean that Grot and HK 416 don’t meet ukrainian requirements.https://www.milmag.pl/news/view?news_id=5102 https://www.defence24.pl/ukraina-kupuje-bron-strzelecka-w-standardzie-nato and TVP Info is low quality source because it’s fake political news page.--91.237.86.201 (talk) 18:40, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

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Edit warring

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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February 2021

Please note that repeatedly calling another editor a liar is a personal attack and will lead to sanctions if continued. Please keep comments focused on article content rather than other editors' behavior when debating article content, and keep your opinions about other editors to yourself. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 23:30, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

August 2021

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September 2021

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its under a suitably-free and compatible copyright license like all press articles.--91.237.86.201 (talk) 20:48, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

No, you cannot copy text verbatim from copyrighted sources such as magazines and websites. You must rewrite them completely in your own words. Even copying public domain text is not recommended, as that is plagiarism. But I'm not going to argue with you about this here. I've reported you to an admin who deals with copyright violations on Wikipedia, and they will handle the discussion from now on. BilCat (talk) 20:55, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

You are incorrect when you say that all press articles are compatibly licensed. They are not. For example, this page is marked as " © All Rights Reserved 2021"; this page is marked as "© Janes.com 2021 All Rights Reserved"; this page is marked as "© 2019 DVV MEDIA INTERNATIONAL LIMITED".— Diannaa (talk) 00:09, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

MSBS, again

Pls do not restore the disputed text, again these are personal OPINIONS, not official findings (all the reasons why the inclusion of this information is problematic are listed on the talk page). Also, pls consider the comment made by one of the admins on the talk page. Administrator note: Key items to review: WP:ONUS, WP:ASPERSIONS. El_C 06:47, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

"WP:ONUS Verifiability does not guarantee inclusion. While information must be verifiable for inclusion in an article, not all verifiable information must be included. Consensus may determine that certain information does not improve an article." --E-960 (talk) 08:07, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

December 2021

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on FB MSBS Grot. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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FB MSBS Grot

Your recent editing history at FB MSBS Grot shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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You started the editing war by deleting large amounts of text which is vandalism and a violation of Wikipedia rules. You earlier undone another user's edits three times. Which means that you was the first to violate the rule you are writing about. 91.237.86.201 (talk) 19:59, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Pls familiarize yourself with the talk page discussion on this subject. Wikipedia should not be a place where personal YouTube reviews are inserted, whose reliability is questioned by others: "Yet, when [the] Grot was subjected to the sand test, the dust mysteriously stuck on the gun surface, that can indicate the lubrication of the assault rifle before the test – something that could explain the result… Thus, the “test” was not conducted in an objective manner (at best) and staged (at worst).” - Jan Moszczuk, writer for the Frag Out! firearms magazine. Also, as noted on the talk page no other major firearms article contains a "Failed bids" section, not HK416, FN SCAR or CZ 805 BREN. --E-960 (talk) 20:20, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Its not personal review, all defects are confirmed by military magazines Milmag, Defence24, FB Radom and Territorial Defence Forces. And It is in Polish Wikipedia article about MSBS Grot too.91.237.86.201 (talk) 20:46, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

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August 2022

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Leonardo Helicopters AW249, you may be blocked from editing. BilCat (talk) 17:31, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

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October 2022

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