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also the tallest building in [[Latin America]], when it was surpassed by the 236 meter (774 ft) ) high [[Ocean Two]] in [[Panama City]].<ref>http://www.emporis.com/building/ocean-two-panama-city-

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Morcombe infobox

I just realised that changing suspect to something else removes it entirely from the info box, so leaving it as it is, is certainly fair enough. However in future, is there another type of info box? Or since the perpetrator is discussed in the lead, do we even need to address it in the info box at all? Ashton 29 (talk) 06:57, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

I am not sure. I think there used to more types of infobox but they were combined into fewer, with lots of fields. I rarely add them myself, so not expert on the issue. It is actually template:infobox news event that is used, and it has a 'convicted' field, so I think you can change perpetrator to convicted, and it should work. As to whether it is required, 'normal practice' would be my guide. 220 of ^Borg 07:17, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Yep, I changed it and it worked as stated. 220 of ^Borg 07:23, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

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Blog reference for 2013 International Child Pornography Investigation

Not sure if I should answer you here or in my own 'talk.' I found the original of the piece that was mirrored in godlikeproductions.com . The cited appendix of contact and photographic offenses is highly reliable - I have laboriously re-checked the figures from the newspaper articles and the web-linked court documents for all 54 publicized arrestees, and the figures check out (I've made a 600-page Word document that has the primary news articles for all U.S. and most non-US Spade arrests pasted into it). The original posting of the article I found in godlikeproductions is at http://en.boywiki.org/wiki/Pedophobe_of_the_Year:Paul_Krawczyk%2CToronto_Police

I can't immediately propose a solution for the dilemma that some readers may doubt the information because of its source. I wrote for the LGBT press in the 1970s and everything we said was considered politically self-interested and discreditable; nowadays grad students email me because the material we wrote about is part of their thesis. Perhaps history will need to repeat itself with information from the automatically discreditable deviants of the present day. To insert the information without using Mr. Najarian's compilation would require inserting over 50 references, and it would appear to be primary research. If this aspect of the story has to be omitted, we'll leave it to the grad students of 2025. Boywiki.org is offline for software upgrading until Apr 2 according to a notice that was posted the day I was looking at it. Godlikeproductions.com is - not surprisingly - a paranoid website, but it only rejects primary IP addresses like yours if someone has used them, or has maliciously reported them, for spamming. People generally should be able to see it with no problem as long as they're not using a proxy server, but it did reject one server host I was at that had been briefly subverted by a bot net.

Thanks again for giving me the benefit of your experience.

Dan Perrens (talk) 15:09, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

If you were answering a query/comment I left on your talkpage then it would probably be best to answer it there to keep both sides of the discussion in the one place. You can the use a wp:talkback template on my talkpage to let me know there is a message for me.

Boywiki.org does not sound like a reliable source. 'Wiki' strongly suggests it is a wp:Self published source. I don't know all the ins and outs of sourcing, but we do have wp:Reliable sources noticeboard which may help you check a sources acceptability. This is pretty controversial information about living people (arrest/conviction for child pornography offenses!) so per wp:BLP it must be reliably sourced. I'm not even sure if we would normally list all convictions in huge cases like this, the case is notable, not necessarily each convicted person. 220 of ^Borg 16:03, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

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Unfortunately, this is an interestingly marginal case, because even though the source itself is probably considered self-published, the information referred to is an accurate compilation of data from 50 - 80 ironclad reliable sources (Daily newspapers or Justice Dept. documents). The individual cases mentioned in the sources are mostly not notable, but the data, as compiled in numerical form, are highly notable (or 'is notable' if you take 'data' as a singular). Can a case be made for compilations merely summarizing reliable information? (I have some deadlines coming up and I may not be able to pursue this wiki-cratic conundrum promptly). In any case, the biographical information associated with the names of arrestees is impeccably protected from falsehood, and the persons are not mentioned in wikipedia in any case. Dan Perrens (talk) 14:57, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

I can only again suggest you take it up on the Reliable sources noticeboard or perhaps ask at the Village pump. Oh, and you don't need to use a talkback unless you want me to see a message posted elsewhere, I get a notification any time my talkpage is edited. - 220 of ^Borg 15:13, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

The Ryan Loskarn information

I'm still tracing where the confusion might have come in about the statement about the basement, but http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/196635-loskarns-mother-releases-open-letter-he-wrote-before-committing still says, today,

"The former chief of staff to Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) who committed suicide left behind an open letter where he says he was drawn to child pornography because he was abused as a child.

Jesse Ryan Loskarn, 35, hanged himself in his parents’ basement in Sykesville, Md., last week, just over a month after he was arrested on child pornography charges."

It's not a major point, but I check all facts with life-or-death attention because I like accuracy Dan Perrens (talk) 15:21, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

I did see other sources mention it but they appeared to have got it from that hill.com blog. It's not that important where it happened, just they he did suicide. But if we say it was in the basement, we need a wp:Reliable source to support it.

Odd, I am quite certain I couldn't find basement mentioned, but it is certainly there! :-\ 220 of ^Borg 16:31, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the message!

Hi 220 of Borg, and thanks for the heads up. I'm afraid I'm not terribly good at picking up on sock puppets! Thanks again, Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 08:11, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

No worries, Pete! (I'm the nosey, suspicious type! ;-) ) WikiDan61 opened a sockpuppet investigation and the two socks I mentioned and an IP got blocks. And lots of "xxxxx, Wonderville" pages got deleted. Isn't there a Filipino Wikipedia? I couldn't understand about 70% of their postings! :-\ - 220 of ^Borg 12:54, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi again, 220 of Borg. There are a lotta languages spoken in the Philippines. The official languages are Filipino and English. I guess the "Filipino Wikipedia" is this Wikipedia and the Tagalog Wikipedia. Thanks again!--Shirt58 (talk) 11:13, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Indeed a lot, "120 to 175". Hopefully the editor will find their way to a Wiki or Wikipedia where that can put together a coherent sentence! (in some language) ;-) - 220 of ^Borg 12:33, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

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100% agreed with your comments on my talk page, I know about WP:Notability. I don't have any connection with Miller Henry and Asif Ali Laghari. My job is to tag the pages for deletion and removing copyrighted material from Wikipedia. I saw the page during editing when Miller created it, I go through Laghari's contribution that purely show significance of the article since he is young researcher. The article written so for is about the person whose notability can be judge by his contributions, Reliable Publications at this age. I just uploaded his photo on Wikipedia when I go through his Social page and there were clearly written that he himself gave permission to use his photos and I clearly declared Licensed on File. Hope you got the point clearly Nechlison (talk) 09:59, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Striking out section titles

I made a slight modification to this edit because it caused a table of contents to be rendered as "struck out". See the "next edit" for the fix. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 20:48, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. That was an odd result. The section links still worked though. ;-)

While we're on it, my 'suspiciousness' led me to follow the 'other' editor, Nechilson's archives (they removed the CSD from Laghari's page). They led to the pages of user 'HitroMilanese' (HM) that the struck-out talkpage post happened to come from. Interestingly 'Nechilson' seems to have copied the entire talkpage layout from HM's talkpage. Funny that!

Looks like a duck to me

I have informed HitroMilanese - 220 of ^Borg 00:05, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

2014 Mount Everest avalanche

If the 1995 avalanche occurred on Mount Everest then shouldn't the names of all the people who died be listed in the article "List of people who died climbing Mount Everest"? 72.87.103.201 (talk) 06:56, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank You

	Thank You
	Thanks for your valuable suggestions. Being a newbie, I need to learn a lot. Hope to get help from people like you in future as well. Trying to incorporate as many changes as possible. Trying to learn faster. Thnx Shreyas1011 (talk) 17:40, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome, :-) , though most of the 'advice' is pre-written templates. The Referencing part is all my 'original' work though. --220 of ^Borg 16:57, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Jhangail

Thanks, you won't need to check for a month this time... Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:32, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Although it's easier when they ask to be blocked (: actually not done; given the suspect English, I'm checking it what is intended Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:35, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Jim. I take an occasional look at my CSD log, IIRC that is how I found 'Jhangail' again. As for that message on your talk, yes rather hard to make out.:-\. And from a look at edits on Teofilo Bastida Camomot, some wp:competence issues, in English at least.

I thought I 'knew' you from somewhere, see Mufti Mansurul haque earlier on this page from last December. :-) --220 of ^Borg 06:34, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

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See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tunable White-Light-Emitting Nanocrystals - I took 2 of his articles to AfD today. Dougweller (talk) 15:27, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for the message. I had a look at the Afds. AGF, but seems like editor is a 'We-invented-it warrior'. :-\ Yawn, UzT for me! --220 of ^Borg 18:35, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

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@Gogo Dodo: Thanks for the block on Samanantha (talk · contribs), now I can get some sleep!--220 of ^Borg 19:50, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Sleep is a good thing! -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 19:52, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Indeed, that #£%& owes me over an hour. :-\ UzT! --220 of ^Borg 19:56, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

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Un-sourced Airline/Airport edits

@SideshowBob7: @SempreVolando:
You guys may be interested to know that William.Sudarpo (talk · contribs) has been 'indeffed' for vandalism. [1]. They made an un-sourced change to EVA Air ~30 mins. after 'Sideshows' final warning. What really got me was their blatantly erroneous edit to a biography page, 3 hours after a lvl 3 warning!
* My full Wp:AIV report is here. --220 of ^Borg 02:24, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

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Maya articles

Hi 220 of Borg, I've gone through the list of Maya articles that you provided. Many were culled from articles that I had written, but the refs had been stripped out - I've reestablished the referencing. Others, while apparently genuine, were referenced to other Wiki articles. There were also a lot of assumptions being made about birth- and death- places (i.e. if a king ruled in a place, he was born and died there... not so!) Anyway, I've put refs into most of the articles, hopefully they look a bit better now. All the best, Simon Burchell (talk) 14:12, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for that, as I said, exactly the right person. I think I can see how the cites/footnotes got seperated from the sources then. Did they actually copy your text without attribution? --220 of ^Borg 14:28, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes, from fully referenced Wikipedia articles, mainly from Copán, but also from Nojpetén and Spanish conquest of Petén, possibly from others. There are also a number of articles that aren't based on stuff I wrote. Simon Burchell (talk) 14:41, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Well that editor has been rather naughty, but if the refs are all sorted there are much more important things to worry about, like the Nigerian sockpuppets I have been chasing recently. Only been socking since 2012!

I had a similar ref fix once, someone had copied all the text in a section, then opened the edit window and pasted the 'raw' text in again. It had everything there, even the ^[n] boxes but no actual refs! Easy to fix, once you work out WTF was going on! --220 of ^Borg 14:58, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

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Hi there. To respond to the message you left on my talk page, I created that page. I still have access to the "soulbust" account, and I actually made a request to change my name back to that username. After realizing that I created the article on that account, I realized the confusion that could cause, but I have no real idea what to about that or my username. I do have access to both the soulbust and bobcatwaterlion accounts, and I edit on the latter, but what I want to do is have my contributions and username to be registered under the soulbust account, as the previously were. I figure that if that can't be done, however, that it would be fine to keep having them registered on the bobcatwaterlion account. Bobcatwaterlion (talk) 13:05, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Reply to your message about the page "Colin Moriarty"

Hi, this is Kayne Fegeley. My reply is that I was unaware of a rule of no external links in the body of the wiki as I've seen other pages who have done so. So I put the external links there and what not. But when I came back and saw that you edited them out, I was like "Oh". But I decided to put them back because after you had edited it, there must have been a mistake because they were left as red links and so, still not realizing there was a rule against external links in the body of the wiki, decided to put the links back. I acknowledge the mistakes on my part. Sorry. — Preceding undated comment added 13:31, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

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This is Kayne Fegeley. There is most likely multiple Colin Moriarty pages for the reason that on an episode of The GameOverGreggy Show posted at 0:00 PST/3:00 EST on YouTube when Colin Moriarty himself asked of people to make him a Wikipedia page, and thus how the internet works, multiple fans of Colin and the show decided "Hey, I'll make a brand new page for him!" instead of assisting the already created pages in creating a proper page. And here we are with multiple pages. — Preceding undated comment added 13:40, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Wikilinking

Hi, and thanks for your work on the English Wikipedia.

I noticed an article you worked on. Just a short note to point out that we don’t normally link:

dates
years
commonly known geographical terms (including well-known country-names), and
common terms you’d look up in a dictionary (unless significantly technical).

This applies to infoboxes, too.

Thanks, and my best wishes.

Tony (talk) 08:20, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Well I know that. :-\ I de-linked a date & year there [2]. I didn't bother(?) to de-link all the links the page creator BP50Asep (talk · contribs) put in. I actually remove quite a lot of overlinkings, though not for a few days (IGN x 2). I may overlink countries a bit. Hm, you've only got ~ 5x (!) my (true) edit count, but I'll keep your advice in mind. :-P ;-) If you find anywhere I've over linked, let me know.

--220 of ^Borg 09:16, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Terry m. ananny

Who is that banned user? OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 03:46, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

@OccultZone: They are Ananny (talk · contribs). Already added to a current SPI. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ananny. --220 of ^Borg 03:55, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

We are probably having same time then, also check [3] and [4]. For now, backlog is blessed! OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 03:58, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Spotahome

Hi, I got a message at that my article Spotahome may not meet Wikipedia guidelines and may not be retained. I have contributed articles in the past and am generally familiar with the guidelines. I tried my best to use quality references. Is there any way I could get more specific feeback about this article? Is there anything I can do to improve it so it's not deleted, or is it simply a problem with the subject matter? There are articles on similar companies with about the same level of notoriety, therefore I don't see why an article about this company wouldn't be allowed. I look forward to your feedback. Sweeeedishfish (talk) 11:57, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

@Sweeeedishfish: I noted that a page of the same name, written by you, had been deleted before in April, See here. Because "Article ..., which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject".

I sent you the 'Welcome' because you may find it helpful in learning about WP policies. Not necessarily because there is anything wrong with the page. However, "Founded .... in March of 2014", suggests a definite lack of notability. Each page is 'judged' according to WP policy and that page's merits, other pages are not really relevant. See Other stuff exists.

I assume good faith (till demonstrated otherwise). However, if, if, you are connected to this website in any way, then you have a conflict of interest and should not be writing a page about it. Regards, --220 of ^Borg 12:35, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Nixon2

Agree that it is almost certainly the same user. Also see Green Khan (talk · contribs) Camw (talk) 01:15, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Concur, think I picked that one up, here may be a few more. I popped over to Commons and nominated Bridgett Starr's calendar pic for deletion as a copyvio, and the Kim Revell pic is also being looked at. Had a look at the history of each of the calendar Matildas bio page, and saw what was happening in the past.

There are still two redlinked names, so I think "Nixon" will be back. :-\ --220 of ^Borg 01:58, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Matildas – A New Fashion in Football will be by the same guy, right? Should I G5 it? Jenks24 (talk) 15:57, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

@Jenks24: Highly likely same editor. Can't see much encyclopaedic value in a description of exactly what bits of female anatomy, interesting as they may be visually, are on display. The calendar issue is IIRC effectively covered (or uncovered?) on the Matildas page. The name of the calendar, and that it was apparently un-successful, may be worthwhile mentioning there, though that may 'encourage' Nixon. Wikipedia:CSD#G5(created by a banned user) is a possibility, or WP:CSD#A10(duplicates an existing topic) or maybe WP:CSD#A7 (No indication of importance). User:Sam Sailor did WP:CSD#G11, it but got knocked back. --220 of ^Borg 19:36, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

G5'd it, thanks. Jenks24 (talk) 12:19, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

@Jenks24: Meant to ping you back (again) actually. Didn't realise you were an Admin! The calendar page wasn't too bad, apart from their obsession with describing what body parts were on show, though as I said before, it can easily be covered on the main 'Matilda's' page. Even the individual pages about each player involved may not need a mention of it, certainly not that "... her left boob was exposed." Especially when some of their BLPs are, or were, very short on the details of her sporting achievements. (I wonder what would happen if the media got wind of this: Wikipedia Nude Calendar Editing Shock Horror Scandal, etc!)

However, being created by an almost certain sock puppet of a blocked editor is a problem. Is it required, or merely 'standard practice' to remove any edits by blocked editors? I presume you've had a peek at the SPI I added five socks to yesterday? Several of the Matildas BLPs were created by recent likely Nixon2 socks. ie. Traci Bartlett & Kim Revell.
They may be branching out beyond the Matildas too, see Nizam002 (talk · contribs) and this edit.--220 of ^Borg 16:28, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Must admit sockpuppets and whatnot aren't my forte (might be the first time I've ever deleted something as G5 now I think about it), but my understanding is that contributions from blocked/banned users can be deleted, not that they must. So my thoughts were we really don't need an article on the calendar, but for the Matildas players who obviously are notable it makes more sense to try and salvage them. I've tidied up the Bartlett article a bit and removed anything about the nude calendar. Just glanced at the SPI, good to see that a range block has been applied, hopefully it's effective. Jenks24 (talk) 14:15, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

More socks

@Camw: As predicted above, I have found Five more likely Nixon2 socks. It seems they were at work even before the last socks were blocked. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Nixon2. --220 of ^Borg 22:52, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

All confirmed and blocked! (Plus Khan and Nizam mentioned above) See SPI page. --220 of ^Borg 02:41, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

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You deleted an article I was writing about Pádraig Ó Caoimh and put a link to an article about a different man. They are two different people with the same name. How do I get the text back? I was just about to add the references. Thank you. Dunmanus (talk) 18:13, 6 July 2014 (UTC)Dunmanus

As shown above, I linked to the article and it is still there. It has not been deleted. See also: Padraig O'Keeffe and Patrick O'Keeffe (politician). Hope this helps. – Paine Ellsworth ^CLIMAX! 18:48, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

@Paine Ellsworth: I should have removed that 'help me'. I copied the post back to the editor's talkpage and sorted it out there. Apparently they are different political people of exactly the same name, both took part in the Irish War of Independence (Tan War), and were born only 20 years apart. With the musician of the same name (in Irish) I can see a dab page coming.--220 of ^Borg 19:17, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, 220 of Borg, for now the difference should be noted in hatnotes. – Paine 02:08, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Agree . and thanks for helping. I think you are almost my first (talk page stalker). ;-) --220 of ^Borg 02:14, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Stay long enough and you'll get more. I monitor the Category:Wikipedians looking for help, in which pages are sorted that are tagged with {{Help}}. Joys! – Paine 02:24, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

I see you've 'hat-noted' the appropriate pages. Coming up on 5 years editing WP (first ≈2¹/₆ on a static IP), I have "less than 30" page watchers now, but as an IP I had 32 watchers! Perhaps a static IP that had so many edits was a novelty, or they wanted to keep an eye on me?

More likely some have left WP, or haven't noticed that I have a registered account, though a few recognised 'me' without being told. --220 of ^Borg 03:23, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

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Sreeja Chandran

@Shirt58:

Hi Pete (Not 'Shirty' as I said once ;-) As per your edit notice, on my talkpage.

I don't know if you noticed, but I heard a lot of 'quacking', on the Sreeja Chandran page. The three red linked new registered accounts all seem to be SPA's as they have only edited this page. Valid deletion templates were removed at least 4 times. (3 different editors nominated the page for deletion.) This edit here for example, before your first one. Leaning towards meatpuppets rather than socks a bit now. 'Balan25' for example is the only editor that made large deletions. Do you think I'm being too suspicious? --220 of ^Borg 14:07, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi! No, 220, I don't think you are being too suspicious. Maybe they are the same person; maybe they are different people pushing the same agenda. I can see their deleted contributions, and it looks like it would support an WP:SPI. Looks like it's somewhat over-enthusiastic but well-meaning fans, though. Or, as you point out, a somewhat over-enthusiastic but well-meaning fan, in the singular.

Even if some or all of 'em got blocked, it would appear that Sreeja Chandran is probably a notable enough TV actor to have a Wikipedia article: the TV network is for real, the TV show is for real, and there's no indication that the person is anything other than what is presented in the article. (I've come across some stuff that is faked like you wouldn't believe - I'll let you know next time I see something.) You could take the article to AfD if you want, but there may well be enough Hindi and Tamil language press to get Ms Chandran over the line as well.

Oh yeah: JackofOz still calls me "Shirty" and he's been around even longer that I have, so that's fine by me.

Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 09:39, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for message. Considering what you say, I think I'll leave the ducks alone for now, so long as they don't 'quack' more. Getting a bit fed up with such things. Been getting far more involved in page deletions (NPP) lately and running into socks far more than I expected. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Anzwalla for example and very 'enthusiastic' editor Boraj Tanwaran (talk · contribs), who asked me to recreate their deleted page for them.

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Thanks for ur suggestion !! Saurav Lamshal (talk) 07:52, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

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Don't Delete Henrik Verder

Please don't delete this as I'm currently editing and adding references. --Geneticcuckoo (talk) 19:08, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

@Genetic cuckoo: Only Admins delete, I just tagged it. You had a week anyway under PROD, but especially with BLPs you shouldn't put a page in the main space without references. Please change most "Henrik"s to "Verder" as we don't refer to people by their first names. I tried twice but got edit conflicts with you. :-\ About 8 places need it changed, the first line remains with his full name.--220 of ^Borg 19:42, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

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CDH Proton Center

Thanks for your edits to the Cdh Proton Center page. How can I better establish notability, other than the links/references I included? There's a good amount of secondary sources regarding the facility. Please let me know what I can do, thanks! Also, how can I get the name properly capitalized? — Preceding unsigned comment added by IChevako (talk • contribs) 15:26, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

@IChevako: WP:Notability may give some guidance as to notability. Adding secondary sources that are genuinely independent will help. If by capitalised, you mean 'CDH Proton Center', see wp:Move. Don't forget to wp:sign your posts. I also suggest that you make another seperate post in future rather than edit a two week old message!, though I hadn't answered it yet. :-\ . I've also underlined your addition.--220 of ^Borg 16:24, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	thank you for helping me Turkmen oglu (talk) 15:30, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

@Turkmen oglu: Rather belated thanks! (sorry! :-\ ) :-) --220 of ^Borg 14:20, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Katariya, Ambedkar Nagar district

@Whpq: Ah yes, the joys of trying to maintain Copyright, NPOV, verifiability, etc., and sometimes even a semblance of coherent English on 'sub-continent' pages. ;-) Pop. 1.7 Billion (We're outnumbered! Whimper....) For a little taste more see the goings on at H. P. S. Ahluwalia. :-o - 220 of ^Borg 14:20, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks for the help

Hi 220 of Borg. I Appreciate the help and advice you given me.

Thank you very much.--BrianGroen (talk) 11:39, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

@BrianGroen: No worries!--220 of ^Borg 12:18, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

User:220 of Borg/Rolf Aurness

Hello, I am going through Category:Stale Userspace drafts and helping to clear backlogs. I have come across User:220 of Borg/Rolf Aurness and I think it would be ready to be moved to Rolf Aurness. As you are still active, would you have any objection to that? Thank you, PNGWantok (talk) 22:28, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

@PNGWantok: Thanks for the message. Yes, it's about time I did something with some of the pages I started enthusiastically, but somehow waned in interest. Annoying when you start a page, leave it for a while, then you find someone else's page goes 'live' before yours does!

Looking at Rolf right now as it needs some cleanup before 'publishing'. Ping me again if I don't seem to be working on it.--220 of ^Borg 01:21, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Tweaked it a bit and added a new source. Screwed up the move to articlespace though! Took three moves to get it right. :-\ Oh well!220 of ^Borg 05:29, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

That's fantastic! Being an article, it will now show up in search engines and maybe this will encourage readers to expand on your work. Thank you, PNGWantok (talk) 05:31, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

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Seems pointless making new talkback...see my talk again Eman235/talk 09:07, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Help?

Does my article conform to wiki requirements? Any help would be awesome Cwhitty83 (talk) 17:11, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

@Cwhitty83: If you mean Servicing Stop it seems unlikely. Only existed for ~6 years. Then again there are, apparently 1,000 locations, though there is not a specific citation for that. See Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). The Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions or WP:Help page may offer further assistance. 220 of ^Borg 17:31, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

I have an article from the BBC that mentions over 600 locations would it be better if I amend the article with this citation? although I also use this same citation from the BBC in a different area? Cwhitty83 (talk) 17:37, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes, if you dont have a source for 1,000 but can verify 600, then amend the number and use that source. You can use each source more than once see wp:refname. ps. It's nearly 4am here (UTC +10) so I have to get some sleep, now! :-/ Try some of the other help forums if you have queries in the interim. Regards, 220 of ^Borg 17:59, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Jhangail (Baloch tribe) for deletion

Hello 220 of Borg,
I just wanted to let you know that I have nominated Jhangail (Baloch tribe) for deletion. Since you were involved in cleaning up after the "Jhangail" sockpuppets, I thought you might be interested in this. Thanks, Passengerpigeon (talk) 22:35, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks @Passengerpigeon:. (Pp or pee pee?) ;-)

I'll look in on it. I've had my fill recently of likely socks, see Jalpaiguri mentioned above and Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics#Jalpaiguri disruption. --220 of ^Borg 01:10, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Chak Jhangail may also be worthy of investigation. Created by likely sock Imranjhangailbaloch (talk · contribs). --220 of ^Borg 01:52, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Keep the great work going! Puneetsinghbb (talk) 09:59, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, it's been a while! :-) --220 of ^Borg 10:05, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

MadHouseMNL

Hi 220 of Borg! Thanks for reviewing MadHouseMNL. I'm currently on the process of writing info about the Wikipedia page. :) - TheMisterbaks — Preceding undated comment added 20:38, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Michael Guider

What is the problem with the ref system at the above article? It's the system I've always used and I can't see a problem with it.

Sardaka (talk) 12:01, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

@Sardaka: I am possibly particularly picky about references, having spent a lot of time doing them manually for ~2 years as an IP editor before registering and having WP:Reflinks (currently un-available) and other tools become accessible.

I have also seen the problems that bare URLs, for example, or simply insufficient information about the source, can cause. With just a title (and maybe author) it is often possible to re-locate and re-link to the source document, web-page, or news article. Or to find an alternative with the same information. With an ISBN, for example, it is fairly trivial to find/ re-find a source in a published book. Without enough data, if a good source is moved then, especially with BLPs, facts can become unverifiable. So even if true, an important event in a persons life, especially if 'controversial', may have to be removed from their page.

Compare the current refs #2 (formerly a bare URL) and #5, which I used cite templates on and added data to with Ref. #18, for example:

Sun-Herald, Sydney.

This ref. can be expanded simply and quickly:

Tim Barlass "Sex predator who killed Samantha Knight denied parole" May 18, 2014. Sun-Herald, Sydney

In my opinion, the original reference is insufficient. Why link the source newspaper's name to the information? Why not at least add the title of the source and link that to the source? Even better, show both!

I have given #5, manually-no cite tools used, the 'full treatment' though most of the data was already there, eg.:

Neil Paton (1987). "Walks in Sydney Harbour National Park". Kangaroo Press. p. 2. ISBN 9-78086-417-130-6. Retrieved 8 September 2014

I found the information to expand and link this formerly 'unlinked' ref., purely from the title. I added the ISBN and link to Google books, now anyone on-line can see fairly easily that the source book exists, and can theoretically find a copy and confirm the information, (though it appears to be a fairly 'rare' book)

Ref. #18 at least has a title as part of the URL, making finding it again on-line easier, but this is not always the case. (Ref #2 for example only has a string of digits as an 'identifier'.) #18 also had the name of the newspaper source, but how old was it? When was it accessed?, who wrote it? All this information is, in my view, important from the point of of view of maintaining WP:Verifiability by ensuring that the source can be re-located, if 'moved'.

Another point to consider is that if you are expanding a page, you obviously have access to the source/s, and it is far, far easier for you to add its details than another editor having to first re-locate the (possibly moved or archived) source later, especially if it is not available on-line. --220 of ^Borg 18:54, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Having nosed back in the edit history, I see that you started this page, back in 2007. :-) --220 of ^Borg 19:04, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Army Men: The Game

Please help me.. How am I supposed to keep this article if every time I put work into it then it gets deleted. Most of the content on the Army Men series is copied word from word when it comes to the contents. Every game pretty much is that way to on here even without my involvement. It would be great to have more sources for using that are reliable. Yet there is very few out on the internet about the game. The only one's that I can even use have to be from a site that doesn't have a copyright symbol. Which would be the other wiki sites. If it was easy to make this article by finding reliable sources I can actually use. Then maybe I would be able to keep the article without deletion. However it's a old video game and most of the content about it is either gone from the internet or not able to be found. --JoshaGibby (talk) 06:06, 9 September 2014 (UTC)JoshaGibby

@JoshaGibby: Nothing on Wikipedia is really ever totally deleted. You can usually recover the text with the help of an Administrator.

You are able to use quotes from WP:reliable sources. Irrespective of the © symbol, you are able to use the basic information from other sites, but NOT the exact wording. That is WP:plagiarism and not allowed. You need to write it in your own words. Wikipedia is not regarded as a reliable source, so other Wikipedias can't be used as a reference, though the original sources may be useable. Any Wiki would not be regarded as a reliable source.

Perhaps the reason there was no existing article on Army Men: Video game was that there are few sources, or perhaps it is not WP:Notable enough for a stand-alone page, hence the Army Men page covering the whole series. A possible source would be gaming magazines, or newspaper coverage from the period. Coming from 1998, indeed there may be few on-line sources. --220 of ^Borg 08:24, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

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Asif Laghari

Hello brog, can you please let me know whats wrong with article? Since sources are clear and shows notability of person to be decent article, no matter if it was deleted before when sources were not quite enough to show notability. I've seen you have opened SP investigation, since one day some one will write an article about that person then will you again delete it? Maxiz7 (talk) 13:27, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

@Maxiz7: Thats BORG, thank you.

The Asif Leghari article (and it's many other titles) is pushing original research and the person writing it has been Banned from Wikipedia for pushing their unproven personal theories. And you are likely to be another one of the many (21-confirmed, 15-suspected) Sockpuppets that person has created to evade their ban, despite promising not to do so. See WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Princeneil/Archive

Any article that consists of Original research will be deleted, any biography about a non-notable person, or that doesn't demonstrate notability will also be deleted. Have a nice day.

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MK articles

I just had to revert a non-notable copy-and-past MK character article myself. Good times. sixtynine ^{• speak up •} 02:05, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

thanks for your comments. i always try to do it but sometimes it gets out of my mind and i edit the articles without summary. i will try to take care of this thing in future --Owais khursheed (talk) 21:08, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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