User:Xdamr/Sandbox/CFDSpeedy/14 July

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July 14[edit]

Category:Lists of members of the European Parliament[edit]

Justification: C2A, subcategories capitalize this as a title Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:48, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Objections: None Currently

Category:Marianta Pieridi albums[edit]

Justification: Due to name of main article; apparently correct spelling of name translated from Greek. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 22:59, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Objections: None Currently

Category:Buddhist pilgrimage[edit]

Justification: Found doing cleanup as an apparent incomplete nomination. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:40, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Objections: None Currently

Category:Bahá'í pilgrimage[edit]

Justification: Found doing cleanup as an apparent incomplete nomination. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:38, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Objections: None Currently

Category:SV Yesilyurt players[edit]

Justification: C2A: Misspelling of Yeşilyurt. Jared Preston (talk) 17:11, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Objections: None Currently

Israeli people by ethnic or national descent[edit]

Justification: C2C (45 categories) Good Ol’factory (talk) 11:09, 14 July 2010 (UTC)}}

Objections:

  • Oppose as below. Davshul (talk) 19:07, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose all the above changes relating to Israelis. The word "descent" denotes ethnicity. The Israeli people in question were not ethnic Bulgarian, Poles, Turks, etc. There were generally Jews whose origins were in Bulgaria, Poland, Turkey, etc. I accordingly propose that all these categories be renamed using the basis of "Israeli people of Fooian origin" Davshul (talk) 19:07, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Since my nomination has nothing to do with this issue, would you like to start the full CFD? If you say "no", I don't see why there should be a hold-up for changing "Israelis" to "Israeli people". Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:11, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
  • I disagree. In addition to the fact that the name of the categories (both current and proposed by you), for reasons discussed above, are inappropriate, the principal parent category is Category:Israeli people by ethnic or national origin (note "origin" not "descent"), a factor which elsewhere you and others have indicated is conclusive (but which I believe is not necessarily so). Accordingly, I consider that the changes proposed by me are consistent with the C2C criteria. If necessary, I will proceed to a full CFD discussions, but believe that the matter can be agreed here.Davshul (talk) 16:18, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Agree. This is a logical change. On the issue of descent, how long do people have to live in Iraq to be Iraqi, Bulgaria to be Bulgarian, Greece to be Greek and Germany to be German. To say that the Jews from Germany who immigrated to Israel after the second world war were not Germans is to ignore reality and buy into Hitlers false propaganda. The Babylonian Jews had lived in that land for more than 1500 years. As a cohesive ethnic unit their roots were deeper than those of the surrounding Arabs.John Pack Lambert (talk) 23:20, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Category:Converts to Roman Catholicism from Pagan religions[edit]

Justification: C2A, per Category:Former pagans Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:47, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Objections: None Currently

Category:Converts to Catholicism from Pagan religions[edit]

Justification: C2A, per Category:Former pagans Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:47, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Objections: None Currently

Category:Former Evangelicals[edit]

Justification: C2A "Evangelical" and "evangelicals" is not capitalized in category tree—see eg, contents of Category:Evangelicals by nationality Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:40, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Objections: None Currently

Category:Converts to Evangelical Christianity from Roman Catholicism[edit]

Justification: C2A "Evangelical" and "evangelicals" is not capitalized in category tree—see eg, contents of Category:Evangelicals by nationality Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:40, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Objections: None Currently

Category:Converts to Evangelical Christianity[edit]

Justification: C2A "Evangelical" and "evangelicals" is not capitalized in category tree—see eg, contents of Category:Evangelicals by nationality Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:40, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Objections: None Currently

Iranian and Iraqi people by ethnic or national origin[edit]

Justification: C2C (6 categories) Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:16, 14 July 2010 (UTC)}}

Objections: None Currently

Category:Iraqi Kurds[edit]

Justification: C2C Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:16, 14 July 2010 (UTC)}}

Objections:

  • Oppose. The word "Kurds" is the correct word to describe people who are Kurdish, as it denotes ethnicity. Unlike the other changes proposed, there is no possibility of confusing an ethnic group with the citizens of a particular state. Davshul (talk) 19:07, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Were you aware that the parent category is Category:Kurdish people, not Category:Kurds? The basis of the nomination is not to correct an error (C2A), it is a C2C. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:13, 15 July 2010 (UTC)


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