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Just a moving request

May you help move Draft:Citation needed to Citation needed (which is currently a redirect)? I'd translated this article recently. Please also move the talk page. Many thanks. Regards, Sænmōsà^{We shall find a way, or we shall make one.} 01:19, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Sanmosa - Sure, one sec... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:21, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Sanmosa -  Done. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:25, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Many thanks. Regards, Sænmōsà^{We shall find a way, or we shall make one.} 01:30, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Sanmosa - No problem ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:32, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Citation needed listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Draft:Citation needed. Since you had some involvement with the Draft:Citation needed redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Sænmōsà^{We shall find a way, or we shall make one.} 01:33, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Draft talk:Citation needed listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Draft talk:Citation needed. Since you had some involvement with the Draft talk:Citation needed redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Sænmōsà^{We shall find a way, or we shall make one.} 01:35, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

User talk:MPants at work

I see you revdel'd two edits to this talk page earlier. You might want to do so again: [REDACTED - Oshwah] NewEnglandYankee (talk) 02:17, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

NewEnglandYankee - Good call, thank you! Aaaand the deed has been  Done. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:19, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Why did you revert the edit i made?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-sum_thinking#Examples 104.220.184.162 (talk) 04:44, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Because we have limited patience for people who want to fool around and troll on here. Please heed the warnings on your talk page. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 04:53, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

FYI

I noticed that you deleted all of the user pages for these accounts, but they should also be blocked as they are all spambots: ArleenUbt88653, JunkoDingle5, MarisolR40, LaraCourtney, LenoreNeilsen32, and MaryanneMcCart4. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:49, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Gogo Dodo -  Done. You're right, thanks for the reminder. I'll make sure that I block future bots next time :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:52, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Gogo Dodo - Oh shit... you already took care of them. I apologize for overriding your blocks. I thought that you said that they weren't blocked but alas, I was wrong.... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:53, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

No worries. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:54, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Gogo Dodo - It's funny how easy they are to spot, too... "Hi I'm such and such and I like butterflies, hugging ponies, and spiderman" <br><br> Also check out my website too!!!! https://SpamSpamSpamSpamSpamSpamSpamSpam.poo" ... lol ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:57, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

See Edit Filter 499. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:02, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Gogo Dodo - That's not a bad filter at all. I would improve it in order to remove false positives by adding "<br><br>" as a condition that the filter looks for as well, as their spam edit always contains exactly two line break HTML tags between their "introduction as a person" and the "hey, check out my URL, yo!"... :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:08, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

The filter details are set to private. It isn't set for just that particular spambot as it detects other things, too. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:12, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Gogo Dodo - Oh shit... good call on removing those details. Sigh... It's one of those days again, I guess... sorry about that. I'll have to comb through the logs and see what else it catches. Looks like I have another condition to add to my edit filter ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:33, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

DELETE THE PIC OF RAJENDRA CHOLA IN THE TOP RIGHT OF THE ARTICLE

Dear sir,

            Its not Rajendra chola.Its chandikeshwara,one of the 63 nayanmar's in tamil saiva canon.So kindly do me the favor of removing that pic.That picture is totally misguiding many history enthusiasts.Thx in advance.

Best regards, Gopal balakrishnan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gopalbalakrishnan123 (talk • contribs) 07:18, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Gopalbalakrishnan123 - Your edit removed the entire information box from the article, not just the image. You should add a discussion on the article's talk page if you feel that there's an issue or an error with the image on the article. This way, other editors can participate, help verify if a mistake does actually exist with the image, and work to fix the problem. If you have any more questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:10, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

"Commit" suicide

One does not "commit" suicide, despite common use of the term. The term "commit" implies an illegal act, and since suicide isn't illegal, it's a misuse of the term. Maybe we can find a better way of saying this?

80.169.33.106 (talk) 07:39, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi there, and thanks for leaving me a message here. I believe this issue falls under Wikipedia's manual style section regarding the need to avoid euphemisms when adding or modifying content in articles. The phase "committed suicide" is a very common way to refer to the event, and I don't believe that the use of the word "commit" implies that the act is illegal at all. People "commit their lives to one another" in weddings, "commit their time and energy" to something they care about, "commit to the terms and conditions" when they sign a contract... I know that I'm using the word "commit" to define different things than what the word is being used for in the article, but my point is that the word is subjective and the phrase doesn't imply an illegal act at all. Plus, the phrase you changed the sentence to ("died in an act of suicide") just doesn't make any sense :-). Check out the link I provided to you above, as well as Wikipedia's guide on words to watch when editing articles, and let me know if you have any questions. Thanks again for the message. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:57, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. I'll leave you with this link (one of many you can find in a search on this subject). I'll leave things alone for now, but I feel it's something Wikipedia needs to think about. 80.169.33.106 (talk) 08:15, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Erm. I thought suicide was illegal or is it assisting with it?! 🖍S (talk) 11:50, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

changes on Peter Lum's wikipedia page

Hello Oshwah,

I did edit some areas, as I am the Peter Lum, himself.

All the information is correct and true and please let e know if you need me to prove further.

Thank you!

Best regards, PETER LUM — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.228.147.176 (talk) 10:04, 1 August 2018‎

Hi there, and thanks for leaving me a message here. Unfortunately, I cannot verify your claim that you're the article subject. Even if I could, your edit would constitute a conflict of interest and self-promotion. If there are changes that you feel should be included in the article, you can refer to this page for instructions on how to create an edit request so that another editor can approve and perform the modification for you. If you have any questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Again, I appreciate your message and I wish you a great rest of your day. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:07, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Melbourne Victory FC

Thanks for protecting Melbourne Victory FC. Unfortunately you protected it with the unsourced content still there (Keisuke Honda in the player list). I'd do it myself, but I'm already on 2 reverts & I don't think it's clear enough to be exempt from 3RR? Cheers ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  10:42, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi CJinoz! Thanks for the message, and I'm happy to hear that the page protection is welcomed by you :-). Nah, I think you'll be fine. Just remove that unreferenced content and call it good. If someone puts it back afterwards, then go ahead and ask for help instead of doing it yourself. You're doing exactly the right thing by being very careful about 3RR and asking questions if you're not sure... keep that up for sure. But in this situation, I don't see your removal of unsourced content being an issue. I'm not gonna chase after you for it ;-). Please don't hesitate to let me know if you have any more questions or if I can do anything else for you. I'll be more than happy to lend a hand. Good luck with the article and I wish you happy editing. Cheers - :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:54, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  12:11, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

CJinoz - You bet; always happy to lend a hand ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:28, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

It’s come to my attention the same unsourced content is being added at Keisuke Honda. Would you mind protecting that too. Cheers ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  12:06, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

CJinoz - I just applied semi-protection to the article for three months. If the disruption continues after it expires, let me know and we can easily reapply it and for a longer duration. Please let me know if I can do anything else for you. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:14, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Gosh that was quick! Thanks again. It’s likely to be sorted out with an official announcement in the next few days but people appear to be having a little too much fun in the meantime. ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  12:18, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

CJinoz - Cool deal. No problem; always happy to help ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:22, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Nice hair.

Hi. Sup. You probably already know about the infamous CrayonS, right? The one who fails to login after some time. After a while. Nice hair btw! I love it! <3 🖍S (talk) 11:49, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Heyyyy, look who it is! Hi CrayonS! Thanks for stopping by to leave a message and say hello! Ha, thanks... the hair has a mind of its own. By the way, you know about the general English Wikipedia IRC channel we use, right? #wikipedia-en ? Myself, as well as many other good editors are usually always active there, and you're welcome to join and chat with us any time! Here's a link that will connect you to the channel through your browser: Come join and say hello! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:53, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Why, thank you very much. Discord is better xD. Just kidding. 🖍S (talk) 11:56, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

CrayonS - No way, man! IRC is where it's at! Anyways, I hope to see you join us there regularly and chat with us! We can always use some more editors to talk "Wikipedia" and make stupid Wikipedia jokes with :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:28, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

I think I have to sign up. Fml. But still. I could always grab an email address for ze' wiki. [Best Thing Ever!] 🖍S (talk) 09:25, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi again, CrayonS! If you're referring to the ability to join the channel on IRC that I talked about above, you would typically be allowed to join the channel without having to register a nick, but we've had a very high rate of spambots trying to join it, so we've temporarily modified the channel to only allow registered users to join until things calm back down again. Registering a nick as a very simple process and takes only a few minutes. The instructions for how to do this are located here. If you run into any questions with getting yourself registered so that you can join us, let me know and I'll be happy to help you. Hope to see you join us soon! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:31, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Also, I appreciate your shout-out to that messy mop that people call "hair" ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:33, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi. OK, thank you! Btw your user talk page looks like your 'hair'. So many logical arguments about how this and that is. Some are really quite funny. <3 🖍S (talk) 09:35, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Ohhh yeah.... I have quite a diverse audience of people who message me here. I guess you can say that it comes with the job ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:37, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

I've written a new essay called Wikipedia:Court of law recently btw. Just wanted to share that with you. I see the kind of things people actually talk about. They use caps and shout out different languages by the looks of it. You must have it hard on Wikipedia with all these 'writers'. <3 🖍S (talk) 09:59, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi. Guess what, I joined IRC last night with Crayon5. I'm gonna get myself a cloak. 🖍S (talk) 08:01, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi. Guess what, man! @Oshwah, I've got a NSFW section in my user page. A sausage and a rhino's penis. <3 🖍S (talk) 17:08, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

User:N.C.Rajan

Hi Oshwah. This editor created an article, "N.C.Rajan". I nominated it for speedy deletion, then they moved the article twice. The article is currently named "User:N.C.Rajan". I think user pages should not be created via article moves. Can you have a look at it? Ktrimi991 (talk) 11:57, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Ktrimi991! I hope you're having a good day. Where was this page originally created? Was it created on his user space first? Or the article space? I see two move logs but both say that the user moved the article from the mainspace to his user space; I don't see any move logs where he moved it back the other way... Let me know when you can, if you don't mind :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:12, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Ktrimi991 - So... I'm an idiot. The second "log" I was referring to was actually the creation of a redirect at the source page... Nevermind! Mystery solved! :-). The article has been deleted per A7. Please don't hesitate to let me know if I can do anything else for you, and I'll be happy to do so. Cheers - :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:25, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

After the editor moved it to "User:N.C.Rajan" I felt a bit confused. Thanks a lot for your help Oshwah! Much appreciated. Cheers, :-) Ktrimi991 (talk) 12:33, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Ktrimi991 - You bet; always happy to help ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:35, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Monument, Colorado

Hi Oshwah. Block evasion--may need to protect this after all. Thanks, 2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:21, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Bob! I've extended the block to the IPv6 /64 range, so this should be taken care of now. If you see any more vandalism there, please do let me know so I can shut it down. Thanks for the message and the heads up :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:26, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. There's been a lot of disruption in the last week, with removal of sources and map. Probably requires some fine tuning to restore, a mass reversion won't do it. Perhaps I'll have a look later. Cheers, 2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:30, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Let me know if I can help you with doing that and I'll be happy to do so. Another day in the life of a Wikipedia editor! Fun times.... :-P ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:32, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Jason Derek Brown

Hi

I maid an edit a few minutes ago you marked as non-constructive. I edited the status box the formatting of articles based on other Top Ten fugitives such as this one. Im curious as to why you marked it as such?

Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.150.233.183 (talk) 20:29, 1 August 2018

Hi there! Thanks for leaving me a message with your question. In short, I read your edit incorrectly and thought you had taken the template and broken them up into newlines. I see now that this is clearly not the case and I apologize for the mistake and for disrupting your work. I've restored your changes back onto the article and removed the warning that I left. Please let me know if you have any more questions or concerns and I'll be happy to help. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:35, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Reverting for no reason

I have encountered you twice before when you have reverted my edits for no reason. Both times, you said it was some kind of accident and apologised. But here we are a third time. I spent an hour thinking about how to improve an article, and worked it into a better state than it had been in.[1] Two minutes after my final edit, you undid everything I had done, without bothering to explain why.[2] "rv - please discuss the removal on the article's talk page" is a completely inadequate edit summary. If you think my editing was somehow so bad that the only way forward was to undo it entirely, you should have the basic courtesy to explain why you think that. Destroying someone's hard work for no reason once was bad enough. Three times is truly appalling. 146.199.22.234 (talk) 20:40, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi there, and thanks for leaving me a message here. The reason that I reverted your edit was due to your removal of the gallery. I felt that this should be a topic of discussion on the article's talk page before the content was removed so that other editors could weigh in first. That was the explanation I had left in the edit summary. Unfortunately, the revert also undid the changes you made immediately prior to making this one, which was not what I intended. This of course drove you into frustration (It would do the same for me), but it also made the edit summary I left make absolutely no sense in this context. I'm sorry that happened, and I'm also sorry to hear that we keep bumping into one another and only in these circumstances - do you remember the other two instances you speak of? What articles did this also happen? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:55, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

I find your response inadequate.

• Why exactly did you feel there should be discussion? What guideline or policy did you have in mind?
• "Unfortunately, the revert also undid.." - no, you also undid my previous edits. It was your decision to trash all of my work. Take responsibility for your actions.

I see the section immediately above this contains yet another instance of you reverting without good reason. You are attempting to wave them all away as accidents, and it is not convincing. Do not revert people's edits if you cannot be bothered to properly understand their content. 146.199.22.234 (talk) 21:48, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

I felt that there should be a discussion and input from others first before you simply remove an entire gallery from the article like you did here. Your edit summary, "article has plenty of images already" - sounds like the removal was due to preference on your part. It possible that others disagree and we should give them the opportunity to weigh in before such as removal occurs. You're absolutely right - I didn't mean to word that phrase in order to shift the blame off of myself and onto something else. It was my action that caused more edits than intended to be reverted, and I'm sorry that it happened. If you believe that being open, civil, and willing to discuss the matter, and making apologies and admitting to your mistakes is an attempt to "wave things away" and that it's inadequate to you and not good enough, then I don't know what else I can say to you in order to help. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:06, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Why? Why did you feel there should be discussion and input? You're not explaining yourself at all. Reverting "so that others can comment" is not a valid reason to revert. Others may indeed disagree about my edit - it is up to them to make that clear. It is not up to you to try to provoke a disagreement. If you thought the article was better with that gallery in, you should have said that. If you thought there should be discussion, you should have started a discussion.

You don't know what you can say in order to help? You can't say anything, you need to do something to help. You screwed up, you apologised. Fine. Happens to all of us. You screwed up again, you apologised again. OK, a little annoying. You did it a third time, and a fourth, and it's beyond acceptable now. You need to stop screwing up. Do not revert anybody's edits if you don't have a good reason to do so. 146.199.22.234 (talk) 08:12, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict)(talk page stalker) A revert is not "trashing your work"; please don't see or treat it as such or working at Wikipedia will almost certainly be an exercise in frustration. Your work hasn't been thrown away or trashed, it's still there in the revision history and can easily be brought back to the "live" version of the article after consensus has been formed. In fact, as Oshwah has stated above that he only meant to undo your gallery removal, I've brought back your other edits up to that point, so that only the edit that was *meant* to be reverted is reverted. In regards to the gallery removal, that should be discussed per the bold, revert, discuss cycle, and not something I can help in (I'm neither you nor Oshwah and neither of you have explained your reasoning on that point in more than *very* broad strokes).

In regards to "unfortunately, the revert also undid": unlike the "undo" function, that can actually happen when using a Rollback-userright-based tool like Huggle, which assumes that if you want to revert the most recent edit on an article and the preceding edits are by the same editor, you will most likely want to revert those as well. Very often that presumption is true, but in cases like this one, it's not. While there are ways to use Huggle to revert just the one specific edit, having reverted the entire set of them is not necessarily a conscious choice or decision. Does not make them any less Oshwah's action or Oshwah's responsibility, of course, but it does mean that it should not be taken for granted that he decided to do that, because that requires actual conscious awareness and intent that quite probably was absent here. AddWittyNameHere 22:20, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

If I spend an hour working on improving an article, and some careless revert-warrior turns up two minutes later to undo my work in its entirety, that is absolutely trashing my work. A reversion is a complete rejection of the work of another editor and if the reversion is not adequately supported then the reverted editor may find it difficult to assume good faith. Indeed I found it difficult the first time this user did this to me, and now I've seen them do it three times to me, and once to someone else, good faith cannot possibly be assumed. This user clearly does not care what they are reverting. Redoing part of their unnecessary and unhelpful revert was not helpful. 146.199.22.234 (talk) 08:12, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

LTA

Hi Oshwah, Kleuske, AddWittyNameHere and all stalkers interested in these matters: I have blocked the unpleasant IP for a month as an obvious (to me) sock of the community-banned WP:Long-term abuse/Best known for IP. Favonian (talk) 11:12, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Favonian - Thanks for updating this message with your findings and the information. That's definitely good to know - especially given that I've dealt with this LTA many times in the past. I thought in the back of my mind that something didn't seem right here, but I didn't really look or check into anything... though seeing your response here, I probably should have... *shrug*... oh well. Thanks again for the update, Favonian. Much appreciated :-D ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:26, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up, Favonian. :) Thewolfchild also informed me of it. As I said to them, I'm not surprised to see them blocked either way, as even if they hadn't been a known LTA, their behaviour was rapidly heading there. AddWittyNameHere 22:45, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

New photo

I wanted to add a new photo on Briand's article, but it doesn't appear. There is a short text which says 220px, but I'm trying to make the downloaded photo appear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zwnisfromgreece (talk • contribs) 1 August 2018 21:27 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Zwnisfromgreece: You appear to be trying to use an external image: you can only use images which have been uploaded to Wiki Commons or to Wikipedia. Note you cannot use images where you are not the copyright holder or you do not have permission to use the image from the copyright holder (for which you will need to provide evidence). Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 22:04, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Zwnisfromgreece, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your questions and request for assistance. I'll be more than happy to help point you in the correct direction. The response provided by Eagleash above is correct - external URLs of images do not render on Wikipedia. All images must be uploaded to the website and then linked from the File page on Wikipedia or the Wikimedia Commons in order for them to render exactly like all the other images you see. However, before you perform any kind of upload or use of this image on Wikipedia, you must locate the copyright and licensing information from the photo and the website from which it's located at, and make sure that you read and fully understand Wikipedia's image use policies (specifically, this section of the policy regarding copyright), as well as Wikipedia's policies on copyrights. Any kind of violation of copyright policy is taken very seriously on Wikipedia because it puts the article content as well as the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikipedia website at risk, so please use extreme caution and put fourth a level of upmost diligence to make sure that everything in the area of licensing and copyrights are followed. Make sure that you locate the copyright and licensing information for this image, that the copyright and licensing of this photo is compatible with the upload and use of this image on Wikipedia (if it's not compatible or the findings show that use of the image is disallowed, then you cannot proceed with uploading or using the image here), and correctly tagged and labeled on the file page after the upload is completed and before it's linked to the article. I admit that I'm not an expert when it comes to copyrights and licensing; I only know basic information. However, if you have any more questions about this, please do not hesitate to let me know or (recommended) ask for help by visiting this page dedicated to media copyright questions or look for your question at this FAQ page. Either way, myself or another editor will be more than happy to help you. Good luck and happy editing! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:21, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Courtesy ANI notification

Hey

This is not about you, but you probably would like to be notified about this topic too: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive989#Lepidoptera~plwiki ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:56, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

ToBeFree - Hey man, how are things? Thanks for the message and for the notification. I'll go by and take a look :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:14, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you :D I just handed in my BSc EE thesis -- this feels awesome. I'm now taking some time for gaming and reading, but will also have much time for Huggle again in the next weeks. You're fine too? Cya on HAN/IRC :) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:19, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

ToBeFree - Awesome, and congratulations on getting your thesis completed. I remember that exact feeling too back when I was in college... when you get that ridiculously challenging and huge project done and the moment when you hand it in and say to your self, "It's finished... It's done..." and can strike it completely off of your list of things to get done... that intense wave and feeling of relief and that figurative weight coming off your shoulder is one that I'll never forget. I'm doing well, thank you! Just been busy with real life stuff, but that's life and that's how it works... Oh well. And of course - I'm on IRC 24/7 and usually active, so I'll surely see you there soon ;-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:26, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Userpage

Since you are a Software engineer can you help me design my new userpage? Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 22:21, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

If would be much better for you and very much in your best interest to learn how to to use tables, styles, fonts, colors, pictures, infoboxes, and other tools in order to customize your user page. Else you'll robbing yourself of the opportunity to learn about these tools and styles and how to create and use them... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:31, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Also, software engineers are not necessarily designers. They can help you with technical issues but probably not designs. (although I think Oshwah is a talented designer. Great templates and user page ) ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 15:35, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

HA, thank you :-). I also think that the opportunity to experience the satisfaction of designing your user page (as well as the learning that you'd get from doing do) are also things that you'd rob yourself blind of by having someone else just do it for you... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:38, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

You have only one life. Why not experience it yourself? ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 15:40, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Alright...

Just because I'm curious, who is the zebra vandal? Home Lander (talk) 02:20, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Home Lander - I'm not sure, but their user creation log is very close to a bunch of other LTA creations that I just handled. As soon as I saw the username "Fapstronaut" created, I established these accounts with the rest of them and blocked them both. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:22, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

OK, figured the weird one would probably be something more. Never mind! Home Lander (talk) 02:23, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

They use all sorts of different tricks to get through the automated and human filters and screenings... I'm not perfect and never will be perfect, but I always try and do my damn best and with this project's best interest in mind ;-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:32, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Potato pancake

Hello.. I´m very busy and don´t learn wikiedit.. I´m sorry & mea culpa. I´m a Czech and I say that bramborák is pancake like a Ashkenazim´s latke. Bramborák is fried on the pane with some lard or oil.. no deep frying! And Czech garlic is toxic ingredient.  :-) Please, edit this article, if you want it.. best regards, Sigimer. 46.183.64.9 (talk) 08:38, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for the message and for the explanation. No worries; just understand that edits like the one you made here will typically be interpreted as being nonconstructive by others who review it. Though you seem to have meant well with your edit, we also have policies regarding the requirement to word articles to reflect a neutral point of view. Opinions and personal preferences must remain completely out of article text and cannot be used. If you're interested in furthering your learning, knowledge, and experience as a Wikipedia editor and a member of the community, I recommend that you consider creating an account for yourself and use it to not only go through and complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial, but use it to edit and improve the project. There are many advantages to creating and using an account which include the ability to create new articles and pages, request and be evaluated for being granted additional user rights and access levels (which you use to further your involvement with improving the project and hence your overall knowledge and experience), and much more. Give it some thought, and please don't hesitate to let me know if you have any questions. I'll be more than happy to help you if you do. Thanks again for the message and I wish you happy editing :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:43, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Never ending childish vandalism

Hello. Would you mind protecting Vellore Institute of Technology? I don't know if it's a bunch of kids who weren't accepted who are doing it, or other people, but this article plus a few other articles about Indian institutes of technology are being repeatedly hit by large numbers of IPs... - Tom | Thomas.W ^talk 12:12, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Thomas.W -  Done. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:24, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Edit request - Aishwarya Dutta's Wikipedia page

She also acted in a bengali movie called Bouma in 2009. Can you please add this information to that page?Jasheema (talk) 14:50, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jasheema! You need to make an official edit request by following the instructions on this page. This will allow it to be visible to multiple editors, who can review your request and help make the changes assuming no issues are found. If you have any more questions or need anything else, please let me know and I'll be happy to help. Cheers :-) - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:53, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

thanks for your response. I tried to make a edit request. After clicking publish it asked for me to enter a captcha. I entered the captcha and again clicked publish but again its asking me to enter the captcha. How to know that my edit request is active?

(edit conflict × 2) Check your contributions to see if you made an edit to that talk page. Maybe you should wait and edit other stuff until your account is autoconfirmed to avoid the annoying captcha. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 16:22, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

thanks. I have checked my contributions, but there's nothing about my edit request on that page. As well as may I know how long will it take to autoconfirm my account? If my account gets autoconfirmed, then will I able to make an edit request without asking for captcha?

It takes four days and ten edits to become autoconfirmed (and 30 days and 500 edits to become extended confirmed, just FYI). Yes, you can submit edit requests you want on 30/500 protected pages (but NOT for semi-protected pages since you are already autoconfirmed). ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 17:09, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I have made an edit request. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasheema (talk • contribs) 19:17, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

No problem; always happy to help :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:41, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Alexander Carroll Maingay

Hi @Oshwah:, you recently deleted the newly published page for Alexander Carroll Maingay. This was created at an afternoon editathon at the University of Edinburgh by one of my colleagues at the Library & University Collections team User:Sscarles. Could you let me know what the issue was with the deleted page and whether we can get the article back into Draft space to work on it further as we do not want to lose an entire day's work and for User:Sscarles to have had a bad first experience of Wikipedia editing as we are keen to encourage more library colleagues to contribute knowledge to Wikipedia.--Stinglehammer (talk) 14:41, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Stinglehammer, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your question. The article was deleted because the creator blanked the entire page, and I thought it was because he didn't want to continue working on the article anymore. If this is not the case, I can restore it no problem - just let me know. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:49, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Oshwah, many thanks for looking into this and coming back to me so quickly. If it was blanked then it must have been blanked in error as we definitely want to retain this article and the work that went into it. Could you revert the deletion please? Sscarles (and Gweduni) will be so pleased as he thought all his work was lost. (If it needs any tidying up, I'm happy to work on it). Many thanks, Stinglehammer (talk) 17:24, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Stinglehammer -  Done. Let me know if I can do anything else for you. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:32, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Geraldine Bazan

Could you suppress my IP address for Geraldine Bazan please? Thank you. It begins with 5. 🖍S (talk) 15:44, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

CrayonS - I've rev del'd the IP information and I'll have it suppressed. Please leave a dummy edit... just like I had you do before :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:46, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. <3 🖍S (talk) 15:46, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

No problem :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:48, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

CrayonS - I went ahead and had a soft block applied to the IP address of your network. This will let you edit like usual while logged in under your username, but you won't be able to accidentally edit while logged out anymore. If you see a block notice when you attempt to save an edit, you're not in any kind of trouble... you just need log into your account and you'll be back to business as usual ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:54, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. DeltaQuad?! <3 🖍S (talk) 17:37, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Accidents

I live on Conesus Lake where the incident supposedly took place and have no recollection of such a serious sounding accident. So I searched all local sources and found no reporting in any news source anywhere. Combined with the dramatic accounting and terming the waters of Conesus Lake in August as "freezing" (average water temperature that time of year is about 70 degrees f) I believe this entry is an extreme dramatization of the actual incident at best, and maybe did not occur on Conesus Lake at all. My edit was to put the entry into context.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.39.176.201 (talk) 18:38, 2 August 2018‎

Hi there! Thanks for the message and for explaining your edit to the article. I appreciate that you tried searching for sources and updating the article to reflect what you found (which were none). I wasn't able to find anything either, however it looks like SarekOfVulcan has since resolved the issue that you expressed in your explanation here (thank you, SarekOfVulcan, for doing that!) so everything should be okay now. Next time you have concerns with something like this where content is on an article without any sources cited and where you also cannot locate any sources, it's best to just edit the article, remove the content, and explain in the edit summary that you "removed unreferenced content where you didn't find any sources" (or something similar), and save those changes. If you need to discuss concerns about an article's content or add statements where you feel something isn't correct or has been written to reflect an overstatement or exaggeration (basically, anything written that isn't reflecting a neutral point of view) like you did with this edit, these kinds of statements and discussions belong on the article's talk page. Read through this help page for more information on talk pages, where to find them, and how to use them. Please also let me know if you have any questions or additional concerns, and I'll be more than happy to help you further. Thanks again for the message and for explaining what you were attempting to do, and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:27, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Edits needed to Fairfield Ohio page

Hi, Oshwah. I am the Communications Manager for the City of Fairfield, Ohio, and there is a wrong item on the Fairfield, Ohio, city page. It lists Mark Wendling as the City Manager with a (D) after his name. He is not affiliated with any party, and cannot be as a function of his role with the City. We would like his name removed completely since he's not an elected official, please. Jendex1965 (talk) 20:06, 2 August 2018 (UTC) At the very least, he needs the (D) after his name removed, as he is not registered with any political party.

(talk page stalker) I've removed the uncited political affiliation. I also updated the link to Steve Miller's page, rather than using a two-year-old archive. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 20:11, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jendex1965, and thanks for leaving me a message with your concerns regarding the Fairfield, Ohio article. It looks like SarekOfVulcan has since edited the article and removed content that was unreferenced or poorly referenced, and hence resolved the issue that you expressed concerns with here. However, I also saw that since he made those changes, you also edited the article and removed Mark Wendling as the listed City Manager from the article's infobox. Why did you remove this information? Since you work for the City as a Communications Manager, please know that it represents a conflict of interest when you edit this article directly. It's a highly discouraged behavior that the community receives poorly when discovered, and usually results in those changes being reverted. Next time you're faced with editing an article you have a personal conflict of interest with, you should create an edit request instead so that other editors can review your proposed changes for issues and then make these changes for you assuming none are found. If you have any more questions or concerns, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again for the message and for expressing your concerns here. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:04, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Personal image

Can I use your images on the article Selfie.? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.148.186.251 (talk) 10:48, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

No, because it's not a selfie. Natureium (talk) 11:59, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! While I'm flattered that you would like to use the image on my user page as part of the Selfie article, the image is not a "selfie". For an image to be a "selfie", it has to be one that someone takes of themselves while they are holding the camera :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:09, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Other people on my IP

I think there are some other people on my IP address because I didn’t vandalize these Wikipedia pages. I have a home IP and it is usually shared with a few houses.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.66.78.72 (talk) 21:24, 3 August 2018‎ (UTC)

(talk page gnome) I am not answering for Oshwah, only helping out. In case it applies, please see WP:BROTHER. But, please create a Wikipedia account and make sure to always logout when done. This would ensure to differentiate your edits from those of others. There are other advantages such as your own talk page (even if your IP address changed), a watchlist, potential user rights that you may eventually need, etc. —PaleoNeonate – 22:42, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I don't think WP:BROTHER applies here since last edit by the IP (before this one) was more than a year ago. I'm almost certain it's a dynamic IP, and the user only saw those stale warnings after getting assigned their current IP address. So, to answer the IP question - nothing to worry about, but PaleoNeonate is correct - you should create an account if you don't want to receive messages intended for other unregistered users (among other benefits). It's free, of course, and only takes a minute. =) byteflush _Talk 00:51, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

As (somewhat) stated above (lol), you need to create an account and use it to edit Wikipedia in order to avoid any future warning and messages that involve edits that you did not make. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:06, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Is this a legal threat?

Hi again,

Is this some sort of legal threat? Should I inform Jimbo Wales about this? Thanks. Adam9007 (talk) 00:44, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

@Adam9007: The following letter has been sent to the Wikipedia Founder. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 07:51, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

legal@ has already been informed. Thank you for bringing this to our attention though Adam9007 . --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 08:12, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Oops. I was thinking of something else. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 17:03, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi Adam9007! Thanks for the message and for bringing the edit, your question, and your concerns to my attention. I just read the entire text from the diff you provided. While I definitely see how one would become concerned in relation to NLT from this edit, and while the edit certainly outlines concerns with the article, its content, how the editor feels that that the content negatively impacts them and should be edited to remove such content, and uses terms such as "defamatory" multiple times - I do not see a threat of legal action in the diff you provided. The conclusion of the edit states, "I and my lawyer are happy to work with your administration to provide written evidence of the facts to ensure legislative protections are in place for all parties", which could be interpreted be having a "chilling effect", but I personally don't see enough of one to justify that NLT applies to this edit and that administrative action (such as blocking) is required - not without messaging them to notify them of NLT, asking them to clarify their intent, and giving them a chance to respond first. If we want to truly resolve the situation, we should offer to help them or point them to the appropriate contact page so that they can receive assistance regarding their particular concerns. If it were me, I would leave a message on the editor's user talk page, tell them that you saw the edit provided here (give a URL to the diff), state and reiterate that they are correct in that we care about the accuracy and neutrality of the content in all of our articles (especially with BLPs) and that we exert our upmost diligence to keep articles in compliance with policy (link them to the policy and guideline pages I listed), and offer to help take a look at the article and do what you can to help. Informally let them know at the end about the NLT policy (again, link them to it) and also link them to the contact page and tell them to contact Wikipedia using this method if they still have concerns. Let me know if this is something you want to take on and help them out with, or if this is not something you plan on assisting them with and/or you don't want to be involved with, and I'll be happy to help them directly instead. Either way, someone should at least try and help them ;-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:16, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

I'm writing the message I described above on the editor's user talk page now. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:29, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

 Done. You can read it here. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:44, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

leave a message on the editor's user talk page, tell them that you saw the edit provided here (give a URL to the diff), state and reiterate that they are correct in that we care about the accuracy and neutrality of the content in all of our articles (especially with BLPs) and that we exert our upmost diligence to keep articles in compliance with policy (link them to the policy and guideline pages I listed), and offer to help take a look at the article and do what you can to help. Informally let them know at the end about the NLT policy (again, link them to it) and also link them to the contact page and tell them to contact Wikipedia using this method if they still have concerns That's not the sort of thing I'm good at . In fact, that is the sort of thing I'm not good at . Adam9007 (talk) 03:57, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Adam9007 - Hey, you can't improve if you don't try, right? ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:00, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Melbourne Victory FC redux

Hi Oshwah, GiofanniRahman just added the same unsourced content at Melbourne Victory FC that lead to the page protection and from the look of their talk page they have a long history of similar disruptive/unsourced editing, any chance you could take a look? Thinking a short block might be appropriate? ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  10:13, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi CJinoz! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your request and your concerns. I definitely agree that this user has had issues with this in the past and has been warned numerous times for adding unreferenced content to articles. I've blocked the user for 72 hours due to the edit that (s)he made to Melbourne Victory FC. It would be a good idea to go through this user's latest contributions and make sure that their other changes aren't aren't unreferenced as well - I see a lot of edits that this user recently made that are the target articles' latest revision. Are you able to do this? Let me know, and thanks again for letting me know about the issue :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:40, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Apologize

I had changed motto of Marathwada Institute Of Technology Motto. I apologize that it was done by mistake. Dhananjaykale1997 (talk) 16:50, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Dhananjaykale1997! No worries; thanks for the message and for letting me know. Happy editing - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:53, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Could you take a look at this article?

Hi! Would you mind taking a look at [REDACTED - Oshwah]? I've just made some edits to remove BLP violations, but I think revdel may be appropriate. It should be clear which information I'm concerned about, but if there's any doubt, please drop me an email and I'll elaborate off-wiki. Marianna251TALK 19:32, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Just noticed you redacted the link to the article - apologies if I should have emailed you straight away instead of leaving this message. Marianna251TALK 19:38, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Marianna251! No problem; it happens all the time. Emailing these requests is preferred as we want to do our best to generate as little attention to the edits in question as possible, and adding requests here will trigger a Streisand effect-like response ;-). Thanks for your diligence and for letting me know about the content in question. Please don't hesitate to let me know if I can do anything else for you and I'll be more than happy to help. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:49, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! I'll email anything I come across in future. Marianna251TALK 19:51, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Marianna251 - No problem; always happy to lend a hand ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:52, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Ping

Hello. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

- BilCat (talk) 20:00, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

BilCat - Just received it, and I'm looking at it now... :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:09, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 20:11, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

BilCat - No problem. Just replied; check your inbox :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:24, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

The user still doesn't appear to get it, and has removed the other user's IP address from its signature on my talk page. I've restored it with a note not to do it again. A follow-up on his talk page might be needed. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 07:18, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

BilCat - I just left the user a message asking him to stop removing the IP information from your user talk page, and I explain directly that the IP doesn't belong to him. Let me know what happens and if this helped or not... :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:23, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

deleted Ofelia Garcia

Why did this get deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khanhastic262 (talk • contribs) 20:54, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Khanhastic262 - Was this content you added to your userpage about you? Or someone else? It looked to me like the information was intended to describe yourself. Let me know. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:58, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

I want to create a wiki page for Ofelia Garcia.. how do I do that.. Thanks, Khanh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khanhastic262 (talk • contribs) 21:08, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

See also: Ofelia Garcia. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:11, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Khanhastic262. It looks like the article on this person already exists - see Ofelia Garcia. Since an article exists on this subject, I went ahead and restored your user page and the content you added to it. Feel free to use the information you added to your user page and merge it with the content at Ofelia Garcia in order to make one page. Please let me know if you need anything else. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:23, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

No they are two separate people.. One is an artist... that is already exists the other which is a scholar ( I create) this.. hence the title Ofelia Garicía (professor) and scholar... that is the reason why I created this.. two different people... Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khanhastic262 (talk • contribs) 22:14, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Khanhastic262 - Ah, okay I see. You're welcome; thanks for the messages and I wish you happy editing and the best of luck with the article creation :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:25, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

iDubbbz real name

https://i.4pcdn.org/tv/1487390980871.jpg

His real last name is Washburn — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.251.161.176 (talk) 20:59, 4 August 2018‎

That link you provided means nothing as far as a reliable source is concerned. Please take some time and review Wikipedia's guideline page on identifying reliable sources, as these are the sources we need to locate and use in order to verify content within articles - especially if they're biographies of living people. Thanks :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:27, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

It hasnt appeared on wiki yet. Do i have to start the whole process over? Thanks.

Blocked Mamamoo page.

May I ask why its now blocked when we have been asking for a fair removal of an information? Iy was unfairly written by someone who just wanted to attack.

If that information stays there, then the controversies should be added in any other page. Thanks. Viratvio (talk) 21:11, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Viratvio - The article was protected due to the persistent disruptive editing behaviors that started to occur. I'm aware that there was an effort made outside of Wikipedia (somewhere on social networking) to recruit people to come here and update the article to remove the information. This behavior is known as meat puppetry, which is against policy and not allowed on Wikipedia. Instead of attempting to recruit like-minded individuals to force a change to a page using disruptive behavior, those users are expected to resolve their disputes properly and discuss the matter on the article's talk page and come to a consensus regarding the proper action to take. If users are recruited to run onto the talk page and make edits there, this also counts as meat puppetry and is disallowed just the same. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:39, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

COI/POV edits on politician page

Hi! See this diff. The mass removal seems to indicate POV/COI issues. I already posted a notice on user's talk page. I didn't take to ANI or AIV yet, but I wanted advice on how best to proceed. Also, feel free to ping user. I don't want user to think I'm talking behind his/her back. Just trying to figure out how best to proceed in cases like this. Thank you for your work! --Policy Reformer(c) 21:22, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi PolicyReformer! It's good to talk to you again. I hope your weekend is going well so far. Thanks for leaving me a message here with your concerns and request for advice on how to proceed from here. I took a look at the article's edit history, and I see that multiple users have reverted Krieg13's changes to Mimi Walters only for Krieg13 to revert the article back. I've left a warning on Krieg13's user talk page regarding edit warring and 3RR. If you haven't created a talk page discussion over this issue and pinged Krieg13 to join in on the discussion, I recommend that you do so. Make sure that you avoid breaching 3RR and violating Wikipedia's policy on edit warring (refer to the two links I provided for details); it's easy to get sucked in and it's not something you want to do :-). Now that the user has been warned, they're expected to stop this behavior and discuss the matter on the article's talk page. If the user continues to revert the article back to their preferred version after someone else undoes the changes, report the user to AN3 or let me know. If you need anything else, you know where to find me ;-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:21, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, for the follow-up and suggestions. I'm going to post a longer follow-up the article's talk page. Will ping both you and user there. Thank you so much! --Policy Reformer(c) 22:29, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

PolicyReformer - You bet; always happy to help ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:30, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Radio station accounts

Not sure, but the accounts you've been blocking because they have radio stations as their account name might be one of these; it seems familiar. Home Lander (talk) 23:37, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Home Lander - I think you're right. I do remember dealing with a huge issue with the creation of many radio station usernames and I think I remember being told or shown an LTA page... it was awhile ago though. My usual process (if it's just one or maybe a couple) is to soft block the account as promotional / representing a company. However, if they start to pick up, I just hard block one so that the IP gets autoblocked and if I remember correctly, that usually took care of it... thanks for the message; I'll see what I can't figure out... :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:44, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

List of women executed in the United States since 1976

Hello! I noticed that you have semi-protected List of women executed in the United States since 1976. While I have indeed reverted the false information added by two users, it looks like the unsourced change of information goes way back. Beginning from December 2017, several apparently distinct users, both IP and non-IP, have made multiple edits in a row changing information, arbitrarily changing execution methods and the ages of the executed women and adding a citation to the apparently non-existent source harrisprosecutor.org. I have reverted to before the suspicious long chains of edits. Should there be an SPI? --Leugen9001 (talk) 00:00, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Leugen9001. There certainly is no harm in creating an SPI if you have legitimate belief and legitimate evidence and proof that sock puppetry is occurring. However, depending on the evidence submitted, how recent the users have edited, and other information - the options to pursue might be limited. Just remember that the purpose of an SPI is to document evidence in order to assert that two or more accounts are being controlled by the same person. While you can certainly add anonymous IP users to the report in order to help with proving the case, creating an SPI to only report IP users isn't the normal workflow (unless in very significant or extraordinary circumstances). If you have any more questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:10, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Neutral point of view

The passage I restored had been there for months, but was taken out for unexplained reasons. I wasn't even the one who put it there in the first place.

Now I'd like you to explain why my restoration of that passage was "non-neutral" and how you caught wind of it mere seconds later.2601:84:4502:61EA:456F:E528:DD7:CF11 (talk) 02:33, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! I believe the content was removed because the text seemed to be an opinion or an analysis. All content on Wikipedia articles must reflect a neutral point-of-view and I don't believe that this text is in compliance with this policy and should be left removed. Hence, I removed the content from the article. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:37, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

POV warriors at Caucher Birkar

Hi Oshwah, hope you're ok. I have a question about page protection. There is an ongoing edit war at Caucher Birkar with some users (mostly IP/new accounts) trying to add "Kurdish" in the nationality of this mathematician. I asked for page protection : [3] but my demand was removed by an admin saying "rm dupe". I must confess that this is quite disconcerting, i asked for clarification to the said admin but no answer. Would you be so kind as to give me a reason that would have motivated the administrator to refuse my request? Thank you in advance. Cheers.---Wikaviani (talk) 02:49, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Wikaviani. Your request was removed simply because someone else submitted a protection request for the same article before you did; the admin was just removing one of the two requests to eliminate confusion. I just reviewed and applied semi-protection to the article, so all should be set for now. If more problems arise with the article, file a report at the proper location or let me know and I'll be happy to take a look. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:52, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much ! Take care. cheers.---Wikaviani (talk) 02:56, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikaviani - No problem; always happy to help ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:58, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, i know that mate, this is why i come here when i can't find an answer to my questions. And this is also why i would strongly support you if one day you consider applying to become a bureaucrat. Best regards.---Wikaviani (talk) 03:05, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikaviani - Hahaha... Bureaucrat, huh? Haven't even given that a thought. Maybe someday (years down the line) if the need becomes present I may consider it, but it's definitely not on my "priority radar" right now ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:08, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Lol, Of course, this is your call, but still believe that you would be a great bureaucrat with a great ... haircut ! :-))Wikaviani (talk) 03:17, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Editing

Hello. Thank you for the input. However I have been receiving multiple messages and warnings for editing that I have not done but Wikipedia is attributing to me. I believe I have been hacked and am thus deleting my account. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.198.185.39 (talk) 03:11, 5 August 2018‎

If you're receiving warnings for edits that you're not making on Wikipedia, the solution is actually to create and use an account :-). By doing so, you'll only receive messages for the edits you make. If you want more information on the advantages of using an account, you can click here to review the help page. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:14, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

124.104.239.158

124.104.239.158 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)

User:My Royal Young is back. 2601:1C0:4401:24A0:98CA:B38A:37D4:F038 (talk) 06:24, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

...and he'll need his talkpage access disabled too. 2601:1C0:4401:24A0:98CA:B38A:37D4:F038 (talk) 06:27, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Way ahead of you ;-)...  Done. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:28, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Definition of Nationality

This is ONE of the definitions of "nationality" in a Merriam Webster: "people having a common origin, tradition, and language and capable of forming or actually constituting a nation-state". Please pay attention to the usage of "CAPABLE" in the definition. Kurdish is nationality, similar to Arab, Turkish or Persian.

What is the reason that you force the concept of nationality in the case of Caucher Birkar??

What is the reason that Persian agents are allowed that to edit the Cauchar Birkar Wiki page but Kurdish cannot?

What is the reason that whatever definition that you give MUST be correct??

Why the freedom of choosing a nationality by a human being is ignored. In the case of Cauchar Birkar he devoted his award to "Kurdish Nation", the few people in the Wikipedia force it to what they want?? Why these few people act like the Iranian Gov.

Last the Iranian Gov. TV presented an interview with Cauchar Birkar's father while he was speaking in Kurdish and congratulating to the Kurdish Nation the subtitle in Persian added IRANIAN!! This is fraud. Why the same mindset is forced by few Persian agents here and unfortunately you support the same idea???

Even the English definition of NATION doesn't require PASSPORT, STATE or .... 40 million people are Nation, similar to Arabs, Turks, Persian and .... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tigris13 (talk • contribs) 08:01, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Tigris13 - Wikipedia's guidelines for determining notability are defined and explained on this page. This is the page that we reference when determining the notability of an article subject and nowhere else (with the exception of sub-pages and other essays on Wikipedia of course). This is what you'll need to review and understand if you wish to discuss or debate the notability of a subject. Please let me know if you have any questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:05, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

IP

IP Conversation is going round and round and nothing is been done. I'm NOT causing disruption, I just want something removing from a page that I feel relates to me and was related to another . I did NOT introduce the IPs to Bills page. The current actions only reinforce my opinion that Wikipedia appears to be a closed club with complex rules to stop others freely joining in and contributing . The sharing and distribution of information appears to be of secondary importance to a set of rather complex rules on enforcment . I have in good faith tried to contribute something that unfortunate does not meet the standards of another and they have removed it. When the situation is reversed that person calls it disruptive. I reiterate that I am NOT disruptive or wish to cause any vandalism or offense. I think we have all wasted enough time on this . Either you will do the right thing and remove want I have requested or you wont.

Matchkick - I have no idea of what you're talking about outside of what I was asked to talk to you about (which was your edits removing IP signatures from BilCat's user talk pate)... whatever dispute or issue you have over article content and wherever it may be is between you and and BilCat. Instead of distracting yourself over issues that are irrelevant to the article content itself, you need to work with BilCat (and any other involved editors) on the article's talk page, and resolve your disputes properly. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:37, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Bill doesn't appear to want to work things through that's why he (not I) got you involved and others regarding IPs. I feel there is no point in dealing with him, he's made up his mind and he really hasn't offered me anything constructive in the way of help as to how I could improve my chances of not falling foul of editorial decisions. I really don't care anymore if the article he edits includes my contribution or not. I know my comments to be a fact and wished to share these with others ( whilst folks may not like the verification that I have offered, nether the less it IS and will always remain a FACT based in truth). NO amount or editing or re-editing of a page will ever EVER change any fact. If others don't want to listen or accept something and perhaps share in the joy of learning another snippet of knowledge , then fine, it's not my loss.

What I don't like is the culture of Wikipedia where no addition appears to be easy to make without crossing a quagmire of rules . I'm sorry but this is not an irrelevance that new comers feel alienated and not welcomed. It is a problem that you should not dismiss and of hand . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matchkick (talk • contribs) 18:39, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Matchkick - Your concerns regarding the array of policies and guidelines that one must learn and understand is one that many editors share, both experienced and new. There are a lot of things that we'll need to change and improve if we're going to maintain editor retention in the future. While it doesn't seem that things are working to change fast enough, I can definitely attest that the Wikimedia Foundation and those who volunteer in the relevant projects are working very hard and putting as much time and effort into improving the project as possible. As far deep into the frustration you may feel, it never hurts to leave him BilCat a message and ask that feelings and frustrations be put aside and offer to work together positively :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:37, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Lambton Arena and Minor Sports in Lambton

Hi,

I want to add that there is a hockey arena in Warren Park/ Lambton named Lambton Arena. At this rink are 2 minor hockey (5-21 yrs old) not for profit, coommunity based house leagues and "rep" organizations - Warren Park and Toronto Eagles.

The Warren Park Minot Sports organization was established in 1955. How do I add this to pass Wikipedia's (rules).

Bill — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wbchaves (talk • contribs) 14:38, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Wbchaves - How do you plan on adding this information? Are you trying to create a new article, or add the information to an existing one? Do these teams meet Wikipedia's guidelines on notability? Let me know :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:39, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

In regards to notability - The GTHL (our governing body) is the largest minor hockey league in the world and has its own page in Wiki.

What I wanted to do was just add the info of the rink (Lambton Arena our home rink) and our Associations just as in the same vein as the local PS (also named the Eagles). I dont see the difference between a PS and and local hockey league for the same (local) kids.

Any assistance and direction is appreciated. Bill — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wbchaves (talk • contribs) 21:14, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

• Hi Oshwah, this is Bob, away from home and tapping on my iPhone. I want to put my thumb on the scale to remind the new editor that there were multiple issues with their edits yesterday, none of which they seem to have understood or acknowledged. There appears to be a conflict of interest, promotional intent, and the copyright violation business of plagiarized content. Those concerns have to be digested before the notability stuff is discussed. Cheers from the road, 38.98.231.45 (talk) 00:40, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Bob! Please have a safe journey, and I'll be happy to handle this and take care of the issue while you're away from home. We'll speak again soon; until then - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:52, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Let's get you started! :-)

Hi Wbchaves! I'll be more than happy to help you with understanding the relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines regarding the edits you wish to make. First of all, have you gone though and completed Wikipedia's new user tutorial? If you haven't done so, then this is the perfect place to start. It will provide you with important walkthroughs, guides, and interactive sessions in order to help you with becoming familiar with the basic rules and workflows here. Can you give this tutorial a run-through and let me know if you have any questions about it? I'll be more than happy to answer them and help you with anything that you need. Thanks, and I'll await your response :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:59, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

This is harder than it should be. I tried to add that the area has a Hockey Arena since before 1968 and long standing minor sports legacy since 1955. This is deemed "promotional" so be it, I've lost interest.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Wbchaves (talk • contribs) 01:14, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Wbchaves - Have you considered making an edit request so that others can review and post the edit for you? :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:36, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Jason Peters

So “Redskins player Chris Baker realized his team had no chance of fairly winning the game. Decided to follow long standing Washington tradition of taking opposition players out with a cheap shot“ is neutral, but “Redskins player Chris Baker performed a ‘cheap shot’ against Eagles quarterback Nick Foles” isn’t? My change made the page more neutral and also corrected the grammar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PastLifeHero (talk • contribs) 17:46, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi PastLifeHero, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your thoughts and your explanation. I took another look at the edit you made, and I realize now that your changes modified a sentence that was written very poor grammatically. Nonetheless, I feel that your changes calling the event a “cheap shot” (granted they were within quotations) was not that much of an improvement. We obviously need to fix the grammar and sentence structure issues currently present, but we also want to make sure that our changes don't introduce new issues and set us back to "square one". This is why I reverted the changes made. If you have any questions or need my assistance with anything, please do not hesitate to let me know and I'll be happy to do so. Thanks again for the message and I wish you happy editing. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:11, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Stephen Segal - Page deleted

Hi there,

May I ask why my contribution was deleted by you stipulating something about webhost etc?

This is a genuine post about a South African celebrity that does not have a page. Search Stephen Segal Mr South Africa 2009 on google. His great grandfather was acting state president of South Africa Tom Naude. I am not sure why his listing on Wikipedia should be deleted?

Thanks Stanley — Preceding unsigned comment added by StanleyRaven (talk • contribs) 18:54, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

StanleyRaven - The deletion made was because I felt that the content put on your user page wasn't related to the project, but instead possibly related to talking about yourself - is this correct? What were your plans regarding the content on this page? I'll be happy to restore the page if you plan on using the content for a project-related purpose. Let me know, and I'll be happy to work with you and help you :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:51, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Promotional username, promotional edits

Hi, Oshwah. I was mystified to see you have deleted the userpage of The Himalayan Rock Salt as "Creation by a blocked or banned user in violation of block or ban", but have not blocked the account. Was it a misclick for G11? Do you mind if I block? It looks like a "Promotional username, promotional edits" to me. Bishonen | talk 19:27, 5 August 2018 (UTC).

Bishonen! Thanks for the message and for letting me know. I absolutely remember blocking this user... something must have caused the block not to be set. Weird! Thanks for letting me know. It looks like Luk has already applied the block to the account, but I'll state for the record that I would have absolutely had no problem with you applying the block ;-). Thanks again for the message, and I hope you have a great rest of your weekend. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:44, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Oshwah! I removed that (because I saw Luk's block). See history. No edit conflict? Nm, you have a great day too. Bishonen | talk 20:27, 5 August 2018 (UTC).

Bishonen - Nah, I saw an edit conflict but I was multitasking - I just assumed that a troll user or LTA or someone removed it, so I just threw it back. My apologies. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:30, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Haha, that never occurred to me. Don't apologize, I like it! Bishonen | talk 20:32, 5 August 2018 (UTC).

Bishonen - Much love, my friend. Until next time ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:35, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the Thanks

Thanks, thanks, thanks. Abequinn14 (talk) 20:41, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Abequinn14 - lol no problem ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:45, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Anyway, an actual question... someone raised a concern on my talk page because Huggle was not displaying edit summaries. How do I make huggle do that? Abequinn14 (talk) 21:22, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Abequinn14: That's been a known issue with Huggle for some time now. Try updating your version (mine is 3.4.4) and see if that resolves it. Home Lander (talk) 21:26, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Correct. Update to the latest version and let me know if you still have problems. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:29, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Looks like that did not solve it; might want to ask at WT:Huggle. Home Lander (talk) 21:34, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, weird. Abequinn14 (talk) 21:40, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

I agree that asking at Huggle's support page is the next thing to do. In your description of the issue, make sure to include the version of Huggle you're using, the build and platform (x86, x64, which Operating System you're running and what OS version), as well as anything else you can provide. The more details and information you can give, the better ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:44, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

@Abequinn14: I had the same problem when I began using Huggle. Did you give the bot account access to edit your userspace? That's what solved it for me. See the thread here. byteflush _Talk 21:51, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

I'm not using a bot account right now (I'm using legacy login). Abequinn14 (talk) 21:55, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

...now I am. Abequinn14 (talk) 22:04, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

@Abequinn14: Try removing the following three lines from your config:

default-summary: ""
rollback-summary: ""
rollback-summary-unknown: ""

byteflush _Talk 22:05, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Page protection

Thank you for protecting the Queen Elizabeth-class aircraft carrier page, but I see you limited it to only 2 days. If you check the history, you'll see the same kind of disruptive editing going back several months, all by IPv6 addresses (all starting with 2A02.), meaning it's likely the same person, and they aren't going away anytime soon. Could you perhaps extend the protection for a longer period? (or look at other protective options?) Thanks - ^theWOLFchild 22:24, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Thewolfchild - Good call. I got distracted with an emergency situation and it resulted in the protection duration I set. The article is now semi'd for three months. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:32, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks - ^theWOLFchild 22:39, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Thewolfchild - You bet; always happy to lend a hand ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:37, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

User:HH88

I'm curious how "Heil Hitler" in thinly veiled and well-known code is not an intentionally disruptive or troll username. It's not like it was 88 used an ambiguous way. HH88 is as clear as 1488. —DIYeditor (talk) 03:33, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi DIYeditor, and thanks for leaving me a message with your thoughts and concerns. I've never heard of "HH88" or part of "HH88" being generally interpreted to mean the phrase, "Heil Hitler". We're also supposed to assume good faith and take action only in cases where a username is a blatant violation of Wikipedia's username policy; "HH88" could refer to a multitude of things to the user, or it may not mean anything at all. This situation does not call for an immediate block solely due to the editor's chosen account username. If you have any more questions or concerns, please let me know and I'll be happy to discuss it with you further and help make sure that any concerns are addressed. Just let me know. Thanks again for the message. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:43, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Oshwah: Please see this. I agree with DIYeditor and support WP:salting HH88 and variants. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 03:49, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Ms Sarah Welch - Thank you for providing the URL and the information. So that we make sure that the right decision is made and the correct actions taken, I'm going to cc JJMC89, Dane, and DoRD for input here as they all tool users at ACC and have a high level of experience with account creation and handling of requests. I just want to make sure that, above all else, we do the right thing. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:59, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

In the meantime, I'm going to leave a message, talk to the user, and ask them to change their username willingly... since this account is many years old and has made good edits, I want to give them the benefit of the doubt and treat this as a good-faith coincidence until I'm given reasons that I should not be :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:03, 6 August 2018 (UTC) This has already been done

(edit conflict) If I came across this on ACC, i'd have no idea about the whole "88" or ""HH88" thing unless it came up on Google when researching the username. I agree with Oshwah that when it is unclear if it is hate speech or something else, we use caution and assume good faith. The username can always be blocked if necessary after the fact. The account in question has been dormant for many years and appears to be demonstrating a violation at this point, however, blocking decisions are up to Wikipedia Administrators and not tool administrators, so I defer to Oshwah's decision and support whatever his choice is. -- Dane ^talk 04:07, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

are you from odisha? do you have any knowledge about ojee? this institute is the most corrupted institute of odisha

Vandalism galore here. Abequinn14 (talk) 04:26, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Along with their username, their contributions (including deleted edits) tell me that this is not someone we want here, so I've blocked them. —DoRD (talk)​ 11:41, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

DoRD - Works for me! Thanks for taking a look :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:05, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Deletion

Why was my Article deleted? Barbozaellison (talk) 06:35, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Barbozaellison - The person that you created the content about on the page that was deleted - are you writing about yourself? Or someone else? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:38, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

gold sheen sapphire

Dear Oshwah, the sources and claims provided in the Gem Association journal have since been proved to be false and confirmed by the chief editor of the Journal of Gemmology. These references must be removed. Additionally, the discovery claim is made by Tanzim Khan, who is using wikipedia for commercial gain and selling gold sheen sapphires. Others are also changing this reference for commercial gain. Please provide evidence for your undo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Locusmt (talk • contribs) 09:01, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Locusmt - Can you please provide me with URLs to reliable references and sources that provide primary coverage on the information you stated here? The journal that proves the claims and sources provided in the journal to be false? And your claims that Tanzim Khan is purposefully using Wikipedia for commercial gain? Your claims like these should have many reliable sources to back up what you're saying. Thank you - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:12, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for this information. I didn't know or understand why people keep changing that page back to false facts within hours. It seems one needs to know how to use wikipedia because there are many rules and these rules require a lot of reading to know about. The facts about the false citation are true by the way. There are no URLs to quote. This is a world cover up. Speak to Brendan Laurs chief editor of Journal of Gemmology on the phone or email. We are in possession of private witness statements (signed by registered companies.) To check if Tanzim Khan is selling goldsheen sapphire - do a web search and you come across his shop "Genuine gems and jewelry", Bangkok and thousands of references to gold sheen. http://www.bkkgems.com/exhibitor_detail.php?id=386 There are thousands of references to Tanzim Khan selling gold sheen. My apologies for stating vandalism. I thought vandalism was publishing an untrue statement.Locusmt (talk) 09:32, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Locusmt! Yes, there are indeed an extensive amount of policies and guidelines on Wikipedia, but fear not - you'll get the hang of things and how Wikipedia works in no time at all ;-). If you haven't done so already, I highly recommend that you go through and complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial. It provides you with walkthroughs, interactive learning scenarios, and well-created guides in order to help you get started on Wikipedia, learn the basic principles and policies that you need to know about, and get conformable with navigating the website and how to locate important things such as our policy pages and noticeboards. You'll be giving yourself a significant advantage and head start to becoming an experienced editor by doing so :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:40, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Great effort and time put on dealing with vandalism these days. Impressive! Hope you can stay as active as you can :) Wikipedia needs people like you ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 11:34, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Abelmoschus Esculentus! Thank you for the barnstar and for the very kind words - they mean a lot to me. I try to stay as active on here as possible, but as we all know - life gets busy and it's been pulling me away from Wikipedia somewhat lately. Nonetheless, I promise that I'll be here and active as much as my life will allow it ;-). Thanks again, and I hope you have a great day and happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:11, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Candace Owens

Don't worry buddy, I won't try and edit your alt-right hero's pages any more. They're obviously well policed by yourself, and an army of fans, so it's a waste of time.

Cjmonty (talk) 14:15, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Cjmonty - The article was protected in order to stop the back-and-fourth reverting and disruption that was ongoing. Otherwise, you would have continued to engage in edit warring which would have resulted in your account being blocked. If anything, I did you a favor ;-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:17, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

You did what you did, to maintain the status quo. You did yourself a favor

Cjmonty (talk) 14:20, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Cjmonty - I'm sorry you feel that way. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:21, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

WP:DENY ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 14:22, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the message

Even though it seemed like a crossed wire, I appreciated the polite and timely message here. It looks like you're spinning a lot of plates with a lot of tact and grace. So thanks and good work. Nblund ^talk 16:37, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Nblund! Thanks for leaving me a message here and for your very kind words. Yes, I apologize for that... I had both my user talk page and the ANI page open in my browser (along with 30+ other tabs with Wikipedia-related things on my "to do list", but oh well). I somehow managed to cross some wires and I thought that your report at ANI was actually a message you left on my user talk page here... Yeah... I know what you're asking yourself, and I can tell you that the answer is "Yes, I really am that stupid" :-P. It looks like nobody has responded to your ANI report or looked into things yet; let me get some things finished yup and I'll be happy to take a look at it and help if someone else didn't beat me to doing so already ;-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:46, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Stefan Schaal

The article Stefan Schaal has been proposed for deletion. The proposed deletion notice added to the article should explain why.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion.

Seth Rogan

Seth Rogan is not married to James Franco :P --Bennv3771 (talk) 19:43, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Bennv3771 - Oh dear Christ... how wonderful.... Oshwah is a bonehead..... lol. Thanks for the heads up; the content I restored is obviously incorrect, and the edit I made restoring it back to the article was incorrect and should not have happened... *Sigh...* ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:25, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

LOL, Oshwah, I saw your edit summary for this edit, interpreted it as trolling, and came here to remove it! Please don't troll yourself, it confuses your stalkers! 0;-D --MelanieN (talk) 20:28, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

MelanieN - HAHA! My apologies; I actually didn't think about that when I wrote it... :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:29, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Sonia Fergina Citra

Hi. You added edit protection to Sonia Fergina Citra, but the version that you protected is the one that was most recently edited by the banned sockpuppet editor(s). Please revert to the 18:11, 6 August 2018‎ version by 142.167.242.182 (i.e., me). 142.167.242.182 (talk) 21:00, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, but unless there's content that's in violation or policy (such as BLP, Copyrights, or other serious policies that must be followed), it would be inappropriate for me to apply protection to an article and then use my ability to edit that protected page to choose a preferred version. To properly resolve this issue and concern, please start a discussion on the article's talk page so that other editors can weigh in and help verify that this revision is the best one and should be used. If you have any more questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks for the message and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:10, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

The content already exists on the talk page. Again, the version you retained is one that has been made by a persistent, banned vandal. This should not be a controversial revert. 142.167.242.182 (talk) 21:42, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)I noticed that the edits made by the sock contain information contradicted by reliable sources, so I have reverted to what I think is the last "good" version. 142 and Oshwah, do you agree? 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 21:48, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

78.26 - Go for it! I have a lot of things going on at the same time - I wanted to refrain from choosing a preferred revision since I was the protecting admin. TL;DR - I trust your judgment fully ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:52, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

I am a new Wikipedian, I work with the Direct Selling Association, and Some Info on the Wiki Entry Needs to be Updated

Hi there. I am brand spanking new at all of this and I am being as open and transparent as I can possibly be.

Your page was welcoming to say the least, and I am hoping to get some guidance on how to do things in a way that does not violate any of the practices - which I entirely believe in, just as an aside.

I do communications work with the Direct Selling Association and some of the information on the entry is out of date. I opened a discussion thread on the talk page for the DSA site because I wanted to note that some of the information was out of date.

I wanted to know if I did the right thing by introducing the topic of incorrect information to editors, and I also think there might have been some automation on the page that no longer works (I think there was some sort of bot that updated some organizational info like chairman, etc.) - I don't know if that's the case or if I misunderstood something I read.

In any event, I really appreciate how open your invitation to connect. There are times that I've wanted to update some pages about hiking and travel - things that are of personal interest to me. That I'd imagine would be something I could do easily on my own. But this particular instance is different, so I want to understand the right way to update some of this basic information.

Thank you very much - I appreciate your insights.

Brad. BradReichard (talk) 22:12, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi BradReichard, and welcome to Wikipedia! I'm happy to read that you felt welcomed by the way I set up my user page, and that you felt comfortable with leaving me a message here with your request for help. I'll be more than happy to assist you and point you in the right direction. Obviously, since you work for the organization you're trying to update, this represents a conflict of interest and we highly discourage users from editing any articles where such conflicts exist. Instead of editing the article yourself, you should instead create edit requests so that other editors can review your proposed changes and (assuming no issues are found) make those changes for you. The page I linked you to provides step-by-step instructions that will guide you through the process of creating those requests. Also, on a very important note: If you're being paid or compensated in any way for making the edits to update the article content, you must follow the instructions provided on this page in order to fully and properly disclose this information on your user page. If you have any questions about the two guide pages I linked you to, let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Again, I welcome you to Wikipedia and hope you enjoy your stay, and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:30, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Great clarity in your instructions, ~Oshwah~. Before I wrote to you yesterday, I did write a message on the Direct Selling Association (DSA) talk page regarding the updates I noted to you - I'm glad that I took that first step correctly. Today I updated my user page with information about me including my business and paid-contribution disclosure. I added some personal links because I figured I'm more than just what I do for a living and well, why not. I have two questions for you now: 1) how long do I let my note on the DSA talk page stay until I can post an edit request; and 2) is there any one admin who oversees the engagement on the DSA entry. Again, I want to ensure that I am doing the right thing - I appreciate your guidance. Brad BradReichard (talk) 18:34, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi there Oshwah - I am not sure that I posted my reply above correctly, but I am writing again to ask you for clarification on the question above. For the sake of clarity, this question pertains to the Wiki entry for the Direct Selling Association (I belive you know this already, but I wanted to leave the link since you specified that be included in a response. Also, if you could let me know if you think the edits that I noted in my post on the talk page are OK to be made - they are entirely factual and seek only to bring the page up to date with current information. Thank you again! BradReichard (talk) 13:20, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

References

Quick Question

I was trying to update/get published a page for my client Zander Shine. Do you have any advice or experience on publishing pages on Wiki. I've done research as far as citation goes and there are dozens of verifiable sources and citations to get the page approved.

JacobDickman (talk) 00:18, 7 August 2018 (UTC) Jacob Dickman

(talk page stalker) @JacobDickman: First of all, you certainly don't need to have an encyclopedia article published. Second, you mentioned that Zander Shine is your client, so it's strongly discouraged that you create or edit an article about them. Please read WP:COI, WP:PAID and WP:NGRIDIRON thoroughly - that should answer your questions. byteflush _Talk 02:18, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Oh thanks!!

Sir my pan card apply but idon no

Pan card — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:5196:99f9::1fd2:88a5 (talk) 02:30, 7 August 2018‎

Umm... I have no clue as to what you're talking about at all. If you can elaborate or explain your issue in as much detail as possible, I'll be happy to try and help you :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:37, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Disruptive IP

This swine keeps changing genres without RS or discussion. Is a block needed? I have already reverted all their edits. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 02:33, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Abelmoschus Esculentus - Blocked ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:35, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Changing of picture

HI oshwa

We are person Representing few celebrities

We are Requesting to change the picture of Aishwarya Menon and we give the picture of her what she wants to upload.

Requesting to mail back if possible to [REDACTED - Oshwah]

Regards Sudarsan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Copyrightmedia (talk • contribs) 02:30, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Copyrightmedia, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your questions. I'll be happy to point you in the right direction so that you can get started. Wikipedia's policies and guidelines page on images will provide you with all of the information and directions that you're looking for. In a nutshell: You need to verify the image's copyright and licensing information and make sure that they're compatible for upload and use here. If it is, you'll then upload the image to the project by using the upload wizard to help you (a link to the wizard is located in the image guideline page I linked you to). After the upload is complete, you'll edit the file page and set the licensing information that the image is published under, and you'll be all set. If you have any questions about anything in the guide I provided you, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:11, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks a lot am looking forward to help to edit of our client aishwarya menon and adding the latest picture of here

Editing without reference

Hello Oshwah, thanks for letting me know. Yes, I edited an article regarding educational life of Shahidul Alam. My sister is an ex cadet of mymensigh girls cadet college, Bangladesh. She knows Shahidul Alam as his senior from ex cadet forum. He’s a prominent figure in our country. We’re proud of him.

Upoma Upoma-Ferdous (talk) 10:15, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Upoma-Ferdous! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your explanation. Unfortunately, we cannot use the personal experience or relationship of somebody as a way to verify that content being changed in an article is accurate or correct. In order to be able to add the questioned content to the article legitimately and without violating policy, you need to locate and identify reliable sources that verify the content you're changing, and then cite your source in-line with the text you're updating. So long as you do this, you'll be fine and you'll have nothing to worry about as far as adding accurate content is concerned. Otherwise, we can't allow the content to be added to the article since we have no way of verifying that it's true. If you have any questions about Wikipedia's policies on sources and citing, and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again for the message and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:16, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

User talk:Star certification5050

You may wish to revoke talk page access.--Cahk (talk) 11:10, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Cahk -  Done. Let me know if you see any more disruption like this and I'll be happy to put an end to it ;-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:12, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Yep ... it's a sock farm. See User:Starcertification18--Cahk (talk) 11:14, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Cahk - Oh fun..... Looks like I need to do a user search for others.... Wonderful..... lol. Thanks for the heads up about that - I'll get it handled ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:16, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Cahk - My search found two sock accounts that were not blocked with talk page access disabled, and one sock account that wasn't even discovered or blocked yet. All are now fixed :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:21, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

See new sock User:Tarcertificaltion59.--Cahk (talk) 07:20, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

User talk:pankajdas0909

Hi Oshwah,

Recently you remove my external link from Public-key cryptography page. I recommend you to read the complete article from here:- cheapsslshop.com/blog/demystifying-symmetric-and-asymmetric-methods-of-encryption and let me know, what are information are missing in the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pankajdas0909 (talk • contribs) 11:19, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Pankajdas0909 - Please forgive me. I thought that the external link you added was because of the intent to advertise or promote the certificate service. I of course was incorrect and I apologize for the confusion or frustration that I may have caused upon you. I've restored the edit you made to the article, and you should be all set. If you need anything else, please let me know and I'll be happy to help. Thanks for the message and for expressing your concerns, and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:27, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

About the edit on Completing the square

Thank you so much! I will be more careful next time. Dominic3203 (talk) 14:10, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Dominic3203! No problem; it happens all the time and it's not a big deal :-). I just wanted to make sure that your IP address was redacted from public view and as quickly as possible. If you need anything else, please do not hesitate to let me know and I'll be happy to help. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:13, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Can anybody here me!?

I am relatively computer illiterate... I'm trying to figure out how to tell Wikipedia that an article has a bunch of issues...what do I do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anthony Troia (talk • contribs) 14:15, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Anthony Troia! Of course we can hear you... lol. Have you started a new discussion on the article's talk page and explained what you believed to be issues over there? If not, then this is what I'd recommend you do if you're looking to collaborate about it and get input from other editors :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:18, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Can you restore this template

Since I did a wrong close in Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2018_July_9#Template:Anarion_family_tree, can you help me restore this template? thanks. Hhkohh (talk) 14:44, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Hhkohh! I hope you're having a good day so far. Sure, let me take a look and get that done for you. Stand by... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:45, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. Err, because someone leave me a message about this close. Hhkohh (talk) 14:53, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Oh yes. Do you prefer to relisting this discussion again? Hhkohh (talk) 14:56, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Hhkohh - I'll leave the TFD procedures to your very capable hands :-). I went to the original TFD discussion and I updated your closing statement to state that the template has been restored. The restoration is  Done ;-). Please let me know if I can do anything else you you and I'll be happy to help. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:59, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Haha. You forget Template talk:Anarion family tree Hhkohh (talk) 15:06, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Also, template talk page should be restored, thanks Hhkohh (talk) 15:13, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Hhkohh - Shit... I completely forgot about that page... lol. All done - thanks for letting me know that I dun goof'd and left it deleted ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:22, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

The Admin Barnstar

		The Admin's Barnstar
		For various and sundry, and mostly for your congenial assistance. Cheers! 2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:03, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Bob! Thank you for the barnstar and for the gratitude! The time that I give to editors that come to me for input and assistance can be quite significant at times, but it sounds like it's a task and undertaking that's making at least a tiny bit of a difference out there... so I'll happily allocate the time needed in order to make sure that our brand new users are helped, that they feel welcome here, and that they know that they're important to us :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:34, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Disruptive trolls at Caucher Birkar ?

Hi Oshwah, could you please take a look at Talk:Caucher Birkar ? There is a thread about the nationality of this mathematician (in the lead or not). Seems that several new/inactive users suddenly came up there. LouisAragon and i left some evidences of that on the talk page. Thanks in advance man. Take care.---Wikaviani (talk) 17:59, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Wikaviani - Sure I can take a look. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:02, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you so much.---Wikaviani (talk) 18:04, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikaviani - No problem ;-). What users specifically do you have concerns about? Which ones should I look into? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:05, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

these users listed by LouisAragon.---Wikaviani (talk) 18:08, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikaviani - Perfect - thanks for the list. I'm going to finish up a few tasks and messages and get some of these things off of my plate, then I'll take a look and see what I can't find ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:16, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I also have to log out for now, i'll be back in a few hours. Take your time. Cheers.---Wikaviani (talk) 18:18, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Hey Oshwah, do you have some news for me ?---Wikaviani (talk) 00:34, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello Oshwah, i don't know if you found enough time to check the listed users we talked about few days ago ? Take care man.---Wikaviani^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:26, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikaviani - I apologize! I meant to take a look but I've been sidetracked with a lot of things - I'll take a look today and see what's up. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:27, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikaviani - Have you filed a report at SPI about this? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:29, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

No appologies are needed mate, i'm sorry if i give you some additional work (it's the ransom of your success as an administrator !). Best regards.---Wikaviani^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:32, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

No i did not, i wanted to have a perspective before, but if you think it would be better to fill a report then i will, if i'm able to find enough evidences.---Wikaviani^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:34, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikaviani - I'm taking a look now. I'm so sorry for the delay with doing so... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:38, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikaviani - It doesn't look like a consensus has been reached in the discussion. Is there anything else I should look at? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:41, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

No problem, thank you very much for doing this additional work. Actually, the RfC is close to a consensus about the lead of the article.---Wikaviani^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:44, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

WNYQ revisions....

I'm not really sure what you are looking for...for an official "source". I work at WNYQ and am the "source"....The present WNYQ information on Wikipedia is obsolete....and I wanted to update things to the present... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Channel Surf (talk • contribs) 21:43, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Channel Surf, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your questions and concerns. You cannot use yourself or even other people as "sources" like that when making changes and adding content to articles. Doing so constitutes original research, which is not allowed on Wikipedia. This is because of the fact that we can't verify any of the information as accurate and true. I also note your statement saying that you work for this radio station. Please know that, given your employment with the company and your line of work, you should not be contributing any changes to these articles because you have a personal conflict of interest with this topic and article subject. You should instead focus on other topics and update and expand articles where you don't have these conflicts. Please let me know if you have any questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Again, I appreciate the message and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:53, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Updating CenturyLink overview

Hi Oshwah, I am trying to update https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CenturyLink summary. We need it to reflect what is on our Corporate "About Us" How do I go about doing this?Matthewvillarreal (talk) 21:52, 7 August 2018 (UTC)Matt

Hi Matthewvillarreal, and thanks for the message. Well, I see a number of issues here. First, it appears that you updated the article's summary paragraph and replaced the content with text that was copied straight off of the CenturyLink website. If I'm correct and and you copied that text straight from that website, that's definitely going to be a violation of copyright policies, as well as Wikipedia's guidelines specifying that content must be paraphrased from sources. I also note that within your message above, you referred to yourself in the second-person. You stated, "We need it to reflect what is on our Corporate webpage" - who exactly is "we"? Why is it "our" corporate website? Your specific use of words tell me that you're either representing more than one person, or your representing CenturyLink. Either way, this introduces more problems - such as conflict of interest and undisclosed paid editing (if you're being paid or compensated to participate and edit on Wikipedia, you're required to follow the directions on Wikipedia's paid-contribution disclosure page and properly disclose this information. Either way and direction you look at this, there are lots of issues and problems here with what you're trying to do, and I recommend that you review the Wikipedia pages I linked you to here so that you can read and understand why this is problematic, but also read the section that talks about what you need to do in order to request an edit be made and have another editor review and make them for you (assuming no issues are found). If you have any questions about any of these policies and guidelines after reading through the documentation, please don't hesitate to let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again for the message, I appreciate your understanding, and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:11, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Sharon

Hi I included a source in my addition to Sharon's section. The person speaking is Andrew Fidelis, the translator and English story writer for Fighting EX Layer on his personal stream. Therefore adding credibility to it. --2600:8801:2800:9060:F880:7708:5D45:69C1 (talk) 22:04, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

User page notices

Hi again,

Are notices such as this one appropriate? I don't often see ones like that. Thanks. Adam9007 (talk) 01:32, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Adam9007 - Ehhh no. That's not something he should be doing. This will provoke the troll to increase their disruption if he's right, and (even worse) cause WP:BITE issues and demonstrate extreme bad faith if he's wrong. There's no benefit at all to doing this... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:37, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Related essay: WP:DENY ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 01:58, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Should it be blanked? Adam9007 (talk) 02:20, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Why?

Hello Oshwah, Why did you delete my page User:Nancy Malig? Regards --Nancy Malig (talk) 17:43, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I don't understand it either, Oshwah. It didn't look very webhost-y to me. Bishonen | talk 18:12, 8 August 2018 (UTC).

@Nancy Malig: Oshwah hasn't edited since you asked, so I've restored your page and in case he objects we can take it from there. I suspect he may have been suffering from fat-finger syndrome, or possibly he assumed your external link was to something self-promotional. Bishonen | talk 08:00, 9 August 2018 (UTC).

Woods Hole

Thank you for your consideration, Oshwah. The truth is that WHOI is a long term technological partner of Odyssey Marine, the same company that plundered the shipwreck of the frigate Mercedes and other many shipwrecks. And it is also trutht that WHOI has located the San José galleon in Colombian waters. In this last case WHOI was working for a company owned by a long term finantial partner of Odyssey Marine. I think that I had added anything to the facts. Tank you again. Best J.M.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.3.19.32 (talk) 09:12, 9 August 2018‎ (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kamal Burudi (talk • contribs) 10:23, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

User:BrillLyle

I'm probably stepping into a massive elephant trap here, but I don't understand what this user has done to get globally blocked. I realise they're a bit of a grump and lash out at people who disagree with them, and I can even accept than an indefinite block would have been within the bounds of administrator discretion eg: "You got angry in a content dispute and lobbed too many personal attacks at the other party; please explain how this won't happen again" - after all, they can always file an unblock request. However, with these sorts of editors I find it's better to manage them and try and give a sympathetic reply if it's possible (obviously that doesn't mean you should pussy foot around and if somebody has been caught red handed edit warring with insults, they need to be told) as a block means everyone stops working on the encyclopedia and turns their head round to see what the latest soap opera is on ANI. (As I appear to be doing now). If you can't answer this or have no idea, just ignore it. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:09, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

I'm curious what happened myself (I saw the stuff about OUTING), but since this was a Wikipedia:Office action, I'm not hopeful it can be discussed on-WP. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:48, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

I've had a bit of a closer look at the issue, and the situation reminds me of something I saw in real life a few years back. I don't know the specific reason why Erika was kicked off, this is all guesswork; but if it's like the thing with the local council, it makes sense. I don't mind sharing my thoughts with her privately if she's interested (I can't quite bring myself to sign up to the Wikipediocracy forums), but I don't see much point because the concluding remark will be "Basically, you are screwed". I don't particularly like it; rather it's just human nature and how people act. This video is well worth watching. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 10:20, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

I know I saw a link to her twitter somewhere, but that's not really "private", is it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:00, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Ritchie333 - I try to do the same (as you know) - I try to educate and help editors to learn and grow from blocks, but BrillLyle's global block isn't something I have details about. Sorry :-/ ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:17, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

You've got mail

Hello. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template. CK (talk) 22:12, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Stand by... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:18, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Broken nutshell - I don't think I received your email... can you please resend it to me? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:49, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Broken nutshell - Actually, I believe I did and responded. Let me know if this is not the case and I'll take another look... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:32, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

@Oshwah: Looks like I have to resend you message here. CK (talk) 11:49, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

This is it. Hi, There's an issue Regarding Article List of WWE personnel, issue is that since June 16, 2018 there had been discussions and arguments regarding RAW Rosters and 205 Live Cruiserweight Division, I even appealed it's protection and at the time you were there and protected the article for 3 days, The arguments still going on, Especially you need to see that IP editor 32.213.92.177 trying to re initiate same arguments, providing same unauthentic sources claiming them Reliable source which is not, Upon reporting at WP:ANI, IP user still not accepting his mistakes, warnings/blocks as he is continuously re-initiating arguments even when the matter is resolved, we(even I) have no option now to deal with 32.213.92.177 and my any of further actions might block me from editing (maybe indefinitely). Galatz also reported regarding this matter too and was resolved but IP 32.213.92.177 still arguing regarding same trivial thing, I hope you might have any solution regarding this matter. He not even sign after leaving messages at talk page. PLEASE! CK (talk) 11:53, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Broken nutshell - Perfect, thanks for re-sending that to me. I apologize; I'm not sure what happened or why I didn't receive it. I'll take a look and see what I can do to help :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:59, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Give your feedback about changes to Special:Block

Hello,

You are receiving this message because you are a top user of Special:Block on this wiki. Thank you for the important work that you do. There is a discussion happening about plans to improve Special:Block with the ability to set new types of blocks. To get the best design and new functions added, it is essential that administrators who use the tool join the discussion and share their opinions about these changes.

Instead of a full site wide block, administrators would be able to set a Partial Block. A user could be blocked from a single page, multiple pages, one or more namespaces, from uploading files, etc. There are several different ways to add this feature to Special:Block. Right now Important decisions are being made about the design and function.

Please review the page on Meta and share your feedback on the discussion page. Or you can reach me by email Also, share this message with anyone else who might be interested in participating in the discussion.

I appreciate any time that you can give to assist with making improvements to this feature. Cheers, SPoore (WMF) (talk) , Trust and Safety Specialist, Community health initiative (talk) 01:47, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi SPoore (WMF)! I will absolutely participate and add my input. I feel that admins should have the same functionality as oversighters do on the block interface, in that they should be able to tick a checkbox and have the username of the editor they're blocking removed from all logs and edits (only they'd be rev del'd instead of suppressed). I'll express this idea again - I hope that the idea gets implemented. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:30, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Facing issues over Disagreement on Character Lists for Poirot novels

Myself and a user are having a disagreement regarding the character lists for Poirot novels, mainly on technical detail in terms of character roles. This user wants to highlight the character who is the murderer of the plot, and I do not for believe in doing that since such a role ain't revealed until towards the novel's denouement. I've tried to argue my point, but I wonder if perhaps it would be best to clear out the lists before he and I go to logger heads and start an Edit War on the matter. What do you think? I just don't want to start up such a situation. GUtt01 (talk) 13:37, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

GUtt01 - Is the reason you don't want to mention this part of the novel because it would spoil the plot? If so, you should see WP:SPOILER - it says that we don't withhold or sensor such content because it would spoil the plot of a movie, film, book, play, or other kind of story. Let me know if I'm incorrect with my response or if you have further questions or concerns, and I'll be happy to help you further. Remember to resolve any disputes properly, discuss disputes on the article's talk page, and refrain from engaging in edit warring - doing so will only make things worse for you ;-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:54, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Wythy

How can user Wythy contact you? Thank you 86.187.167.72 (talk) 15:51, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Wythy, due to the block placed on his/her account, should request an unblock by following the directions under this section of the guide to appealing blocks. This will allow the right people to investigate, check the account, and proceed given the information found. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:59, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

How to promote from Sandbox to Wikipedia

Hey Oshwah (great hair by the way)! I have created a page (2 Tread Brewing- a brewery in California) and am trying to now promote the page from my Sandbox to regular Wikipedia. I don't see how to do that? Your help appreciated. Billdrury (talk) 19:26, 11 August 2018 (UTC)Bill

Hi Billdrury, and thanks for leaving me a message with your questions. Have you seen Wikipedia's articles for creation process? This is the best place to go regarding your wish to move what you've written to the mainspace. After you go through and read the directions, the process will allow other editors to review what you've written and help you with issues before the content will be submitted. The concerns I have is regarding the notability of this company and whether or not this brewery is notable enough to have a Wikipedia page. Follow the directions at the AFC link I gave you, and let me know if you have any questions about the process. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:06, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Just a case referred from Meta-wiki

Please see if the user Fauzty should be blocked here. (See details) Many thanks. Sænmōsà^{I will find a way or make one.} 00:40, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

In this conversation, User:MCC214 tell me to talk in non-English. "you can use this page talk to me,also,you can use Chinese on it." said MCC214. I don't see what is the problem here. He asked for a non-English talk, and I reply him in non-English. Would you mind providing more details?--Fauzty (talk) 02:02, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

I mean you continued what you insisted, which is wrong, here. Sænmōsà^{I will find a way or make one.} 10:22, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Fauzty, Sanmosa - I'm not sure what's going on and why this user should be blocked - can you elaborate further? What's going on? Just because non-English messages were left doesn't constitute a block... Let me know if I missed something and I'll take another look. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:13, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Fauzty kept unreasonably complaining his viewpoints, because he was blocked indefinitely in Chinese Wikipedia. Maybe you can try use some translation tools to translate those pages written in Chinese. Sænmōsà^{I will find a way or make one.} 06:28, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Sanmosa - I do see this page, which appears to be a talk page between Fauzty and MCC214 in Chinese (as you pointed out), but has this user engaged in adding disruptive edits to any articles? If so, which ones? If we're just expressing concerns about the user expressing viewpoints and opinions on that talk page and the user has not engaged in disruption on any articles, I'm not as concerned (yet.. lol). Let me know if I missed anything and I'll be happy to dig deeper and take a look :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:42, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Actually … it is the discussion continued from zh:User talk:Fauzty. I am sorry for forgetting to point out this. Sænmōsà^{I will find a way or make one.} 07:49, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

latest Jeffman

[4] Meters (talk) 03:11, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

@Meters: Better to report at AIV. WP:RBI. Regards ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 03:13, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Someone has opened a report since I posted here. I added to it. Meters (talk) 03:59, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Meters - Thanks for the message - the user has been blocked. If you see any more, report them to AIV or you can let me know here (although AIV might result in a faster block than here) :-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:15, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Alert revert to Neta Snook Southern

Thanks for catching my "fame" drop (pasted in while searching Iowa Hall of Fame on her page). AHampton (talk) 04:05, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

AHampton - No problem :-). I'm not sure what you were trying to do here, but I'm glad that it's been fixed. If you have questions or need help, let me know and I'll be happy to give you a hand :-). Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:16, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

I was just trying to link the Iowa Aviation Hall of Fame page, but had somehow scattered a few fames when attempting to enter the word into the search bar, while my internet connection was being spotty. Tried to catch them all, but my connection kept failing then. Thanks.AHampton (talk) 15:25, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

jay e

the content was removed because charts were listed on his personal page. The page should be more personal and the charts should be on the page with info about the albums — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omaze725 (talk • contribs) 04:19, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Omaze725, and thanks for leaving me a message with an explanation for your edit. I just didn't understand why you removed content without explaining, which is why I reverted it. In the future, make sure that you explain each of your edits using the edit summary, and take the time to start a discussion on the talk page of an article if you're not sure if what you're doing is correct. This way, you'll avoid running into any conflicts or issues. Thanks again for the message and I wish you happy editing :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:23, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Heads up

You blocked 2409:4070:200E:97DB:9833:2FE7:BE6C:B7CF (talk · contribs · WHOIS) indefinitely. Thanks. 2601:1C0:4401:24A0:E41D:24CA:B4D9:B2FA (talk) 05:35, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

The registered throw-away sock account that they're using is Kerinta kerinta (talk · contribs), which should probably be blocked indefinitely. 2601:1C0:4401:24A0:E41D:24CA:B4D9:B2FA (talk) 05:37, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

IP addresses generally should not be indefinitely blocked. I've fixed the block I placed - thank you for letting me know :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:44, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

BLP issue with Jeffree Star

Would you please take a look at Jeffree Star (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) There appears to be a BLP violation. Thank you Jim1138 (talk) 06:47, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jim1138. I agree that the text (as well as the reference provided) seems to be a reflection of analysis and non-neutral commentary and opinion. I've removed the text per BLP and left an edit summary asking those who disagree to discuss it on the article's talk page... It's what I feel is the right way to step in and respond to this. Thanks for the message, and please don't hesitate to let me know if I can help with anything else. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:59, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Much appreciated! Thanks Jim1138 (talk) 07:05, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Jim1138 - You bet; always happy to help ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:05, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Misuse as a webhost deletion

You just deleted my new user page I created. Please explain the reason given - "Misuse of wiki as a webhost," because I am not hosting anything here!Kristian Ayre 06:58, 13 August 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krisayre (talk • contribs) 06:58, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Krisayre - It looks like the main purpose of your user page was to promote yourself, which is not what user pages should be used for. This is why I deleted the page - see this policy section for more information. Do you plan on making contributions to the encyclopedia regarding topics, subjects, and articles other than yourself? Where at? I think that after you've made some edits and a few days have gone by, you'll have less issues with creating a user page so long as you only add content that's allowed on user pages :-). Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns, and I'll be happy to help you further. Thanks for the message and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:04, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Page Delete

I just create a page for a singer mahdi baccouch but i see its delete may i know the reason or if you can help me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahdi baccouch (talk • contribs) 08:21, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Mahdi baccouch - It looks like the main purpose of your user page was to promote yourself, which is not what user pages should be used for. I drew this conclusion because the username of your account matches the name of the person you added content about on your user page. This is why I deleted the page - see this policy section for more information. Do you plan on making contributions to the encyclopedia regarding topics, subjects, and articles other than yourself? Where at? I think that after you've made some edits and a few days have gone by, you'll have less issues with creating a user page so long as you only add content that's allowed on user pages :-). Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns, and I'll be happy to help you further. Thanks for the message and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:26, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello

Hi Oshwah. Recently I have been accused of misuse of rollback a few times (such as [5] and [6]. While certainly my mistake, I would like to ask that is falsely identifying vandalism and using rollback is a "misuse" of rollback? I am not satisfied with these accuses. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:29, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Abelmoschus Esculentus! So, this section of the Wikipedia Rollback page lists the appropriate use of the tool. In my view, using rollback to revert what you legitimately believe is vandalism to find out later that it isn't is different than misusing the tool to revert edits that rollback isn't allowed to be used for (i.e. to edit war or revert good faith edits) is different. "Misuse of rollback" is a term that I've seen editors use to describe either situation - don't let the word "misuse" get to you. The best thing to do in both situations is to understand where you went wrong, learn from it, and use the mistakes to improve your editing and avoid future issues. While both situations are obviously different, consistent repeated mistakes in either situation without improving from them can obviously result in getting the user rights revoked. The first situation would have the admin calling into question your understanding of what is and is not vandalism (which is a prerequisite for having the user rights granted of course), and the other... well... is misusing the tool (lol). Just take the issues pointed out to you to heart and work to improve yourself and don't let the pressure or the words behind the messages anger or frustrate you or let you get sidetracked from the message as a whole, and you'll be fine. I've made mistakes using rollback many times; just be open, keep your cool, respond to the messages and look into what happened, and do what you can to make things right if possible... it will help both yourself and the user(s) that the rollback use impacted :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:18, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. After the first "misuse" of rollback (which was about 2 months ago), I tried to remind myself don't be too eager to click the rollback button everytime, but sometimes I just can't consider to use the Twinkle rollback instead of standard rollback. Also, some editors seemed to (kinda) misinterpreted the sentence (to revert) other edits where the reason for reverting is absolutely clear. Will you say this rollback is not appropriate? Somebody doesn't think so. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 15:02, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Abelmoschus Esculentus - No, by policy it was not "misuse" because you added an edit summary with your reversion (though it should probably have been a bit more descriptive... lol). If your use of rollback comes accompanied by an edit summary, you can use rollback freely just like 'undo' (per policy). However, remember that the spirit of the rule is how we look at policy and apply them - we don't blindly apply the wording of the rule to hold users accountable (or vice versa). In the end, this message seems to be left in good faith in that this user was actually asking about notability. It wasn't a good call to revert it. But, like I said - just take this feedback to heart and use it as a positive learning experience and go from there ;-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:39, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Ok I will try to gain experience. That was certainly a misplaced message, so it's appropriate . Sometimes I find it offensive for people to define bad rollbacks as a "misuse of the tool" and use this to attack bite others. Although I can control my temper everytime (lol), I still cannot accept this fact that their actions are really helping the project (We are here to help the project, aren't we?). I've seen people being chewed out because they performed a less-than-ideal rollback, and I've also seen people's rollback flag being removed because of one bad rollback, and I think they do not deserve this at all. Just my thoughts ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 16:00, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Abelmoschus Esculentus - Your thoughts are certainly not misplaced - we (or at least I) try not to remove rollback or any other user rights without giving the user feedback and multiple chances to improve. That instance you mention of a user having their rollback rights removed after one mistake probably happened because their mistake was not their first ;-). Just remember that other users, like yourself, have things they need to improve on, too - one of them might be how they leave others feedback and/or messages expressing concerns, and how to do so in a way that conveys a positive message rather than using words that may be interpreted as passive-agressiveness or finger-pointing. When reading and responding to feedback someone left you that you feel wasn't worded the best (lol), remember to "take the meat and leave the bones" - get the good information and value out of the message, and leave the rest out. Respond to people as if you've only read the good and you'll be fine. Ignore the rest - it's not relevant, and it will only upset you or bring you down if you don't :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:21, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Sandbox

Can I make my userpage in my sandbox?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 21:57, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Yes, of course. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:35, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

IP User fails to heed warnings on not committing Vandalism

There's an IP User, 42.3.186.45, who has been given warning on not vandalising pages, but has not heeded them and continued with their behaviour. I caught them doing the exact same thing they did before on Britain's Got Talent (series 8), in which they switched the positions that two semi-finalists got in a semi-final, that goes against what the citations state. I think this IP needs to be taught a lesson about their behaviour. GUtt01 (talk) 06:38, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

• Reported to WP:AIV ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 06:44, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

IP has continued to vandalise again. Sent semi-protection requests to affected page and another they vandalise, but this IP user needs to be BLOCKED!! They are not heeding their warning, and reporting to WP:AIV is resulting in no action being taken.GUtt01 (talk) 18:52, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

It looks like this issue has been resolved by Drmies (thank you, Drmies!). If it hasn't, let me know and I'll take another look. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:43, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Sure thing. I may have seen Abelmoschus's report go by on Recent changes. They frequently seem to know what they're doing. Drmies (talk) 14:57, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Birth date Vandalism

People keep changing the birth date on my page “gayathri iyer”. Do advise me on how this can be stopped. ( i can send u my ID card with my name and birthdate as proof so that thers no confusion as to my identity)42.106.219.22 (talk) 21:05, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Waiting for your revert ,oshwah! 42.106.217.116 (talk) 22:28, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Since there's no published reliable source on your birth date, I see it has been removed from the encyclopedia article. If there are any published reliable sources that have your birth date listed, feel free to post a link on the article's talk page. Your ID card is not public, and even if you upload it to a public website (which I would strongly not recommend), it's still not a reliable source. byteflush _Talk 23:54, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Forgot to mention, even if you are Gayathri Iyer, that is not your page. It's an encyclopedia article about you, not a page on social media. On social media, you are encouraged to edit your page; here, you are strongly discouraged to edit an article about you. You may, however, propose changes on the article talk page. byteflush _Talk 00:31, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Correct. Since there is no reliable source to show the birthdate of the article subject per Wikipedia's policies on biographies of living people, the best thing to do was have it removed entirely. If there is a reliable source or if you have questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:45, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Thnks byteflush and oshwah.  Though you have removed the option to edit the birthdate, somehow the wrong birthdate is still reflecting!! Its not shown once u enter the page. Its shown in the google search , against the wikipedia option ! 42.106.194.38 (talk) 06:42, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

I can show you if theres an option to attach a screenshot here42.106.218.167 (talk) 07:55, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

I apologize - I didn't notice your response here until just now. Do you still need help with editing this page? Have you located a reliable source regarding the bithdate of this person? Let me know. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:20, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Number of Redirects

Are redirects included in {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}? —Eli355 (talk | contribs) 00:44, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Eli355! It doesn't appear so. Why do you ask? Do you need help with something? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:48, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

It appears that template:Numberofarticles contains redirects, because there is also another template, template:Number of actual articles, which excludes redirects and disambiguation pages. —Eli355 (talk | contribs) 18:54, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

It appears that this expression {{PAGESINCATEGORY:All set index articles|R}} gives the number of redirects (114388) —Eli355 (talk | contribs) 19:02, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

The previous two statements are false. —Eli355 (talk | contribs) 20:18, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

request to recover contents of a deleted page

Hello, I was trying to access the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_contact_improvisation_festivals but it was deleted. I saw in the deletion log "11:32, 12 April 2018 Oshwah (talk | contribs) deleted page List of contact improvisation festivals". I did not create this page and I do not question the validity of the deletion. I would like to request if there is any way to for me to see the contents of this page so I can save for my personal record? I accessed this page in the winter and found it very helpful and would like to save the contents. Thank you, I would appreciate if you know any way to recover the contents of the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.207.250.71 (talk)

I believe that this page will give you the instructions for requesting this. If you have trouble, let me know and I'll be happy to help. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:49, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

An apology

Dear Oshwash, I recently posted a vulgar reply to a supporter of my wikipedia page. It was uncalled for and totally uncivil, and I was not thinking clearly when I made the threats. I thank you for straightening me out and i will continue to be a supporter of the community. Sincerely, Harry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hmcinneny (talk • contribs) 05:11, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Hmcinneny - Thank you for reaching out to me and for being honest and apologizing for the response you made. It's okay; just read through the policies I listed for you on your user talk page and make sure that your response and messages toward others are civil in the future. If you have questions or need any mentoring, please don't hesitate to let me know and I'll be happy to help you. Thanks again for the message and I wish you happy editing :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:14, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello O. I hope you are well and are having a pleasant summer in spite of the heat. I am concerned about this editors contributions here (unsourced info) and here (date change and incorrect first name) as well as their restoration of this image in spite of its removal over fair use problems. I hope this is simply a new editor who does not yet know how things work around here. I also hope you know that I am not in the habit of nitpicking about things like this but in light of your gracious reply to them (which is one of the reasons you are the best) and you offer of mentoring I thought you should be aware of them. Best regards and have a stupendous weekend. MarnetteD|Talk 05:32, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

MarnetteD - Checking... Stand by... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:35, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

I forgot to mention the possible Copy vios in the large portions of scripts that are posted on their user page. Darn my dusty memory banks. MarnetteD|Talk 05:36, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

MarnetteD - No worries; I'm taking a look shortly... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:37, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

MarnetteD - Thanks for updating this discussion with your concerns. I've deleted the editor's user page and warned the user for copyright violations. I also noticed that you've already reverted the edits made to the article that added unreferenced content - thanks for doing that :-). The user's response on their user talk page here when they were warned about fair use images is starting to sway my thoughts toward believing that this editor is WP:NOTHERE, but I'll try and keep eyes on the user's edits from here and see what happens. If you could also do the same, that would be extremely helpful. If you spot more issues, please let me know and I'll be happy to take a look and make sure that any problems are taken care of. Thanks again for adding your comments here :-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:00, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Will do O. Thanks for taking a look. MarnetteD|Talk 07:55, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

MarnetteD - You bet; always happy to help ;-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:56, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Well why I was catching a few zzzz's H performed this and this edit. They had this response to one of your warnings and also posted this which includes a legal threat. I think your WP:NOTHERE assessment has come to pass. Regards. MarnetteD|Talk 13:25, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

MarnetteD - He's now indefinitely blocked for that threat. Thanks for letting me know :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:03, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks O. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 17:12, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User talk:Multiicon

A tag has been placed on your user page, User talk:Multiicon, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be advertising which only promotes or publicises someone or something. Promotional editing of any kind is not permitted, whether it be promotion of a person, company, product, group, service, belief, or anything else. This is a violation of our policies regarding acceptable use of user pages — user pages are intended for active editors of Wikipedia to communicate with one another as part of the process of creating encyclopedic content, and should not be mistaken for free webhosting resources or advertising space. Please read the guidelines on spam, the guidelines on user pages, and, especially, our FAQ for Organizations.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. Cahk (talk) 07:42, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

User talk:Multiicon

You may wish to revoke talk page access.--Cahk (talk) 07:42, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Cahk -  Done. Thanks for leaving me a message about this and for giving me a heads up :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:44, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Removed personal name from Wikipedia (EU right to be forgotten)

Hello! I can't use my account because it is blocked. I want to remove my personal name from Wikipedia as my right to be forgotten (EU Law). Please don't reverted my edits. I can send my ID to verify my identity if it necessary. IH — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.69.5.35 (talk • contribs) 07:56, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! You need to contact the Wikipedia Volunteer Response Team by following the directions at the bottom of this page. You'll email them about your particular concerns and your request, and they'll have the tools and training necessary in order to verify your identity to the account and assist you. You need to follow the directions on the page I've linked you to in order to resolve this situation; making the edits yourself will be seen as disruptive as we can't confirm or verify anything you're stating here. On top of this, there are additional things that will need to be done for your concerns to be fully addressed; simply changing the signature of a few messages within some page archives isn't nearly enough. I wish you well and I hope that your issue is resolved in a quick and positive manner. Thanks for the message :-). Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:01, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi! I send a mail days ago ato Wikipedia Volunteer Response Team, but have not a response. My right to be forgotten (EU) is unavailable and this is a violation of the law by Wikipedia. Please read the European Court of Justice (ECJ) decision. IH — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.69.5.35 (talk) 08:30, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! Looking at the user talk page for this account, it looks like the Unblock Ticket Request Team was contacted, not the Volunteer Response Team - these are two different teams. Are you sure that you followed the directions I linked and contacted the correct team about this particular concern? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:35, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Yes; I try the unlocked and after that contacted the Volunteer Response Team. Anyone response to my request. This is unacceptable. I have the right to cancel my name and I can't wait months and months about it. Please don't reverted my edits. If you want to see my ID I can send it via mail to you. IH — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.69.5.35 (talk) 08:49, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

I unfortunately cannot accept that information nor can I use any personal information to verify anyone's identity here. Are you able to log into your account? It looks like you can and that your access to your user talk page is allowed. If you log into your account and then request that your username be changed, someone will do so and then we'll be able to help you modify any pages where you have concerns about your name. Please give this option a try and let me know if you have any questions. Best - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:54, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

I try to change my username but was impossible. I send a lot of mails to Wikipedia admins, but nothing. IH — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.69.5.35 (talk) 08:58, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

It doesn't appear that you've tried to request your account to be renamed. Please follow the directions I've given you above and do not make further changes to these pages. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:18, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Penzance railway station edit

The edit I made to the Penzance railway station page under stations masters is factual as I am myself an employee of the station. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stranger888 (talk • contribs) 08:38, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Stranger888, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your concerns and your explanation. Sorry, but your edits to the Penzance railway station article has two issues:

• The first issue is that you're editing an article on a subject of a company that you admit to being an employee of. This constitutes editing an article in which you have a personal conflict of interest with, which is behavior that's highly discouraged by the community and almost always will result in being reverted by another editor due to this. Editing an article that you have a conflict of interest with is discouraged because it compromises the article's neutrality and bias, and it introduces a situation where it's nearly impossible for one to edit the page and be in compliance with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy.
• The second issue is that you're also introducing original research into article content, which is not allowed on Wikipedia. Original research is the behavior of citing your personal employment, experience, relationships, accounts, research, and work to add content to articles. This is problematic because such content cannot be verified for accuracy. Wikipedia content, by policy, must either be attributable to a reliable source or directly attributed (cited in-line) by a reliable source. This assures that all content added to Wikipedia is verifiable and can be peer-reviewed and scrutinized. Wikipedia is about fact, not about truth. It's better to have information missing or not added at all than to have information added that isn't referenced by any sources. This is what makes an encyclopedia important as well as different than most other sources of information.

Again, I appreciate you for taking the time to leave me a message and for your honesty in your explanation here, but I hope that you understand exactly why we cannot allow such content to be added (as well as the multiple issues that doing so creates). If you have any questions about the Wikipedia policy and guideline pages I've linked you to here, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:51, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Question again

Hello and welcome back. If you see an editor changing content without adding a source (assume the content added is factually true), will you revert it as a good-faith edit without leaving a level-1 template or just click option 19 in the Huggle revert-and-warn drop down menu? ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 09:28, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Abelmoschus Esculentus! Good question! For me, it depends on the content being modified and the article that the edit occurred at. In most cases, I'll revert and warn the user for adding unreferenced content so that the user receives a notification on their user talk page. There are, however, occasional situations where I feel that just a revert and edit summary explaining the revert seems like the better option. They're usually situations where the user removes content and explains the removal using a reason that isn't sufficient, or seems biased or based on lack of experience. They're also situations where I believe that the user is going to notice the revert and read the edit summary I leave behind. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:34, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Penzance railway station

So i am just wondering how would I go about inputting the factual information i am trying to submit about the true history about Penzance railway station without it being removed? Stranger888 (talk) 13:08, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Stranger888: You need to find a reliable source to support the material you keep adding. See Identifying reliable sources and, using those criteria, find a source that states what you want the article to say, then you can let me or Osh know what source it is, and one of us would be happy to make a properly cited ref out of it which you can use.

Also, I now find myself wondering if that station is chock full of pirates... It seems like it should be. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 13:12, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

P.S. If you are unsure of whether a source meets the criteria, feel free to ask me or Osh, or pretty much any other editor, and we'll let you know what we think, and why, to help you figure this stuff out in the future. Good luck. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 13:22, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi again, Stranger888! Sorry about the delay getting back to you - I was away on a trip to see family. Did you read the response I gave to your message above? If not, make sure that you do. As MPants at work said, you need to locate reliable sources and cite them in-line with the text you're trying to add to the article. Give those two guideline pages a read-through, and don't hesitate to let me know if you have any questions about anything in those pages. I'll be more than happy to answer your questions and help you. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:19, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

109.69.5.35

You blocked the IP[7] and they have requested the username change on main account and the request was successful.[8] Should I change the username on talk pages to reflect the new one since it was their wish? It would be block evasion if they did that. Orientls (talk) 06:17, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Oshwah. Orientls (talk) 10:13, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

He is a busy man. Maybe ask another sysop? ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (alt) (talk to me) 11:39, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Orientls! I apologize for the delay responding to your message. I was away on a trip visiting family and I'm just now getting caught up with my Wikipedia messages and emails :-). You're certainly welcome to modify the username on talk pages, but an admin or oversighter will probably be the best people to make those modifications instead. The user's concerns involve information they state is personal, which means that an oversighter will need to suppress the previous revisions in order to address this specific issue completely. Depending on the number of edits the account made, this may or may not happen or happen quickly. I'll put this task on my today's "to-do list" and I'll get this started :-). If you need anything else or have any other questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks for the message and I apologize again for the delay responding to you. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:33, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Orientls - Holy cow... this user made a lot of edits that include their signature... this is something that will take a very long time to completely resolve. If this is something you're going to take on, I wish you well with it... lol ;-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:40, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

@Oshwah: A bot could easily do it. A database quer(y|ies) by those in power could do it even faster. But I don't think it should be done - it'd open a nasty can of worms we are not prepared for. Besides, you are never forgotten on the Interwebz. byteflush _Talk 01:51, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Byteflush - Exactly. Hence the reason why this probably hasn't been done... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:59, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Armie Hammer

When you get a chance, could you take a look at the recent activity on this article and its talk page? Cheers!  :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ebyabe (talk • contribs) 18:54, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

This man is trying to make sure Armie's children aren't added and seems to be asking you to interfere. He hasn't proved me wrong that celebrity children can be added. Don’t believe him! 23.91.108.10 (talk) 18:59, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

How do you know if I am a man? In any case, someone else is looking at this, so never mind. Hope you have a pleasant day. --Ebyabe (talk) 19:21, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

I've already answered him as well. Seems like people have a problem with including children names. I have to take consensus now, lol. 23.91.108.10 (talk) 23:00, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Ebyabe! I apologize for the delay responding to your message and your request for help here. I was away on a trip visiting family and I'm just now getting caught up with my Wikipedia messages and emails :-). It looks like the issue has been handled; that's good to hear! If this is not the case and/or if you need assistance with anything else (including this matter), let me know and I'll be happy to help. Thanks for the message and I apologize again for the delay getting back to you. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:45, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

No worries. The real world and family should always take precedence. Cheers!  :) --Ebyabe (talk) 05:35, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Ebyabe - Cool deal, thanks for responding and for understanding. I agree; real life off-wiki should always take priority ;-). I'm glad the issue has been taken care of; let me know if things come up again regarding this issue and I'll be happy to help. Until we cross paths again... cheers :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:48, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Poke

I noticed a revert you made here where the edit summary stated that there was no reliable source used for the IP's contribution. I reverted that back as the information is accurate and I had missed that in the infobox. [Poke (Hawaiian dish)] even has the information in the title of the article and is listed at Native cuisine of Hawaii. I have added a reference to the specific claim that unambiguously states the origins as Hawaii. Thanks!--Mark Miller (talk) 02:56, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

I agree. Reliable sources describe poke as a Hawai'ian dish, although it obviously has Japanese influences. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:11, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Mark Miller, Cullen328 - I apologize for the delay responding to your message and comment here. I was away on a trip visiting family and I'm just now getting all caught up with my Wikipedia messages and emails :-). Cool deal, thanks for letting me know about this and I apologize if I missed that this information was covered by reliable sources - edits like these look the same as the many many others that I revert where someone changes content without any references at all; I hope you understand :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:49, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Miami Marlins protection

Hi Oshwah, you protected the Miami Marlins article on Aug 16 because of vandalism. Just after a bit removed the protection tag yesterday evening, the vandalism resumed. L Most of the vandalism is related to an incident involving the Atlanta Braves, and the teams play each other this weekend, so I expect the vandalism to last at least that long. Could you (or an admin watcher) consider a semi-protection for 10-14 days? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 17:39, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi BilCat! Sorry for the delay getting back to you. I was away seeing family and I'm just now getting all caught up with my Wikipedia messages, emails, etc ;-). Looks like the article is semi-protected - good news :-). If you need anything else, please don't hesitate to let me know and I'll be happy to help. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:51, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

No worries, but putting family first over Wikipedia? Not smart. :) - BilCat (talk) 00:21, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

BilCat - I know, right?!! Hope people don't see that I did that... that'll become an "Oshwah scandal" for sure :-P ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:30, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Filter 51

See this filter log entry. A posting at AN3 triggered this. Do you know about Filter 51? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 01:54, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

User:Tuftcabin has been blocked indef by User:Zzuuzz as a sock of Nsmutte. Thanks to all, EdJohnston (talk) 15:47, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi EdJohnston! I apologize for the delay responding to your message here. I designed and built Edit Filter 51 and I currently maintain it, I'll be more than happy to answer any questions you have about it and explain this filter trip in-depth ;-). Check your email inbox - I just sent you the details :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:01, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Script and AIV log

Hi Osh, greetings to you. I have successful added many user script as per the last time of my message to you. I encounter this script which I tried a few times but unsuccessful (where I need to input my user name), could you help to install for me, or let me know what I have done wrong please. Secondly, is there a script / log to find my AIV log? If so, pls advise where can I locate it. Thank you Osh. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 05:55, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi CASSIOPEIA! I apologize for the delay responding to your request for help here. I was away visiting family and I'm just now getting all caught up with my Wikipedia messages and emails ;-). Ah, it looks like a simple .js script that adds another link to the top-right corner (the "Portlet" is what I believe that area is called). I haven't requested the interface administrator rights yet; I'll go do that now so I can help you. I often assist other people with their scripts and code; I just need to be assigned the user right so that I can continue to do so like before ;-). I'll keep you updated. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:10, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

@CASSIOPEIA: Put the following in User:CASSIOPEIA/common.js:

importScript('User:Nigos/scripts/Sandbox2.js');
var myUserName = "CASSIOPEIA";

The issue was how you were entering your username; anything after // in javascript is a comment, so when you left that in, it was causing a load error. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 00:44, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Amorymeltzer - Thanks for responding with the comment about the issue with the user's comment line in their .js file for this script. I guess I should have also provided the user with this response on top of what I also said... CASSIOPEIA, as well as others, prefer at times that I edit their .js or .css file to fix the error so that they can see in the diff what they did wrong; regardless, your response here was great and I appreciate it very much :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:21, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

I'll add that the script was modified and moved without updating the documentation, so you no longer need the myUserName bit. Simply entering importScript('User:Nigos/scripts/Sandbox2.js'); into your common.js page should be sufficient. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 11:20, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Amorymeltzer - Yeah, I was gonna say... there wasn't anywhere where the variable was used; it was only created and declared... lol ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:22, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Osh and Amorymeltzer, Thank you guys so much, I tried the above and it worked! Appreciate it ! Cheers. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 04:15, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

CASSIOPEIA - EXCELLENT!!! That's great news! I've applied for the interface administrator user rights; next time you need help with your code, I'll (hopefully) be able to help you like we did before; where I modify your .js or .css file for you and then go over with you what went wrong and how we fix it :-). Don't hesitate to message me here if you run into any more questions or trouble with your scripts or code. Have a great rest of your day and I wish you happy editing. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:18, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

My college's IP address

Hey Oshwah, I unfortunately never got a chance to use huggle, as I could not comprehend everything and maybe thought I would have difficulty, but thanks for your help. I am worried about my community college's IP address ([REDACTED - Oshwah]) being blocked again, this time for one year, which I would believe is a bit harsh like one user said on the IP's talk page. After a block (first was six months), I think that one case of vandalism is not enough for a year-long block; the blocking admin (Gilliam) left a general note message on the IP's talk page about vandalism, but then blocked for one year. Usually, to get blocked again, the user would need to make 3-4 bad faith edits or have 3-4 warnings, so I'm thinking this is unfair. One user on the IP expressed his feelings about the block, which is not the right thing to do. I still don't think all of the IP's actions in August is worth a block of any duration. Anything to say? Thanks, Dolfinz1972 (talk) 19:46, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @Dolfinz1972: FYI, it's usual to raise a block with the blocking admin in the case of any queries: courtesy ping to Gilliam. Take care! —SerialNumber54129 ^{paranoia /cheap sh*t room} 09:02, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Dolfinz1972! I apologize for the delay responding to your message and your concerns here. I was away visiting family and I'm just now getting all caught up with my Wikipedia messages and emails :-). I took a look at the recent contributions by the IP address you provided above (I redacted it in order to protect your privacy - trust me, it's something you don't want to share in a public place like this), and there definitely appears to be ongoing abusive messages left by someone behind that IP address that's causing the block to be extended. I don't believe that the duration of the block is unfair given the disruptive edits in the past and the previous blocks that have been placed. The IP address was identified as a proxy a few years back, and the disruptive edits in combination with the past block as being a public proxy would justify an administrator setting that long of a duration. I perhaps would have started with a shorter block and then increased the duration with each subsequent block, but that's just an personal opinion and in no ways does that mean that the block currently placed is unfair or inappropriate. School IP addresses will typically face longer blocks and with a wider increased duration for each subsequent block due to the abuse and disruptive edits that typically come from them. I'm not saying that this is policy or the right thing to do; I'm just stating what the reality is and what I've observed. Legitimate users who are affected by this block simply need to do what you've done: Create an account using a different internet connection (such as at home) and then login and use their account any time they wish to edit. Not only does using an account have many benefits, they also won't be affected by the school IP block if they use their account to edit. They won't be subject to receiving warnings regarding edits made by other students who are using the same IP, and (after making a series of legitimate edits and gaining experience using their accounts) they can apply and receive additional user rights to extend their involvement with improving the project. I understand that IP blocks like this can be frustrating to see, but I assure you that the reason that it's applied is fair, and the solution for those affected by the block is both easy and beneficial. Just have them create accounts at home and use them each time they want to edit something :-). Please let me know if you have any further questions, comments, or concerns regarding this matter and I'll be happy to answer them and help you further. Thanks again for the message and I apologize again for taking so long to get back to you. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:12, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary

	Happy Adminship	from the Birthday Committee
	Wishing Oshwah a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! -- Kpgjhpjm 00:53, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Congrats! -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:25, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Kpgjhpjm! Thanks for the happy anniversary! I can't believe that it's already been two years... time flies... ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:13, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana sorry, I just had to! byteflush _Talk 01:58, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

HA! ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:59, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your two years of service. I opposed your RfA two years ago, but I support you today. You have done well. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:14, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Ah, no hard feelings Cullen328 ;-). You voted based on how you truly felt at the time and with the project's best interest as your first and foremost priority. That's the best mindset to have when participating in an RFA, and I hold absolutely no grudges against you at all for doing what you felt was the right thing to do. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:34, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

You are a good admin. I wish I could support your RfA two years ago! —AE (talk • contributions) 02:41, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the kind words, Abelmoschus Esculentus. I appreciate it very much and it truly means a lot to hear that. Nah, wish not! The RFA was two years ago; I passed and minus the good feedback left that I took to heart, it's been completely behind me. I look not to the past, but to the future... :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:51, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

YGM

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Sent 2x incase first one did not come. Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 19:30, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - Got them both, and taken care of - thank you. Did you contact the appropriate team about it? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:12, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Ah Shit. NoThegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 19:52, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

No worries; we got it taken care of :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:16, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Oops!

Hi Oshawa Oshwah, I had a knee-jerk reaction to this edit last Friday, and reverted it as vandalism! Facepalm - BilCat (talk) 00:27, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

BilCat - No worries... it happens and nobody is perfect - don't beat yourself up over it. It's good that you caught yourself and realized what happened; just undo your revert, remove the warning, and let the IP user know what happened and apologize. When it comes to apologies and fixing mistakes, "better late than never" is the way to think ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:36, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Oh, I reverted it almost immediately, and removed the warning too. I just thought you might appreciate that I was looking out for "you". :) - BilCat (talk) 00:40, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

BilCat - HA! That's funny! You'd be surprised with the amount of messages I get from editors both new and semi-experienced who confide in me about mistakes like that. Many if not most think that, as an admin, I'm going to scold and block them and it's better that they just tell me first to lessen the "harshness" or something... I just respond like I did above: "It's okay to make mistakes; they happen. Apologize, make things right, let yourself feel bad for like 5-10 minutes, and move on. Don't beat yourself up over it. Nobody is perfect". I'm not sure why they get that idea in their heads regarding the scolding and the blocking, but that's really not good that they do... :-/ ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:50, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry for changing this... my teacher gave us a assignment and she probaly gave us the most unreliable source ever. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8804:4000:50B:5C5F:9C86:E658:F06 (talk) 02:59, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Edit Summary

When I wrote 'factual info' in my edit summary, i meant to type 'factual error' but my mind got twisted for that second. Sorry for the edit summary JC7V-constructive zone 04:38, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

JC7V7DC5768 - lol you don't need to apologize to me for it ;-). Admins aren't "authority figures" or have any kind of "rank" or "authority" over anyone else - we just help editors by performing tasks that aren't handed out to everyone - that's it. Mistakes happen; I make them all the time. No big deal at all ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:39, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

I'm curious.

What do you get for editing and maintaining pages? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.51.135.203 (talk) 07:52, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

I get satisfaction, knowing that my time and efforts are impacting the project, making the lives of other editors easier, and maintaining a free source of knowledge and information that anyone can read any time they want. If you're asking if I get paid or compensated in any way for my edits and time spent here, the answer is "no" ;-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:59, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism warning

Hello, I'm User:Hananmuzaffar786. I noticed that you made a comment that didn't seem very civil, so your page has been tagged for speedy deletion. Wikipedia is built on collaboration, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. —Preceding undated comment added 09:26, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Hananmuzaffar786! Umm, if you're referring to the fact that I deleted the two articles you created, you should review this speedy deletion criterion and make sure that you understand it before creating additional articles. It will save you time and frustration if you avoid putting time into creating articles and content just to have them deleted. I'm not sure what you mean with your statement regarding a comment that "didn't seem very civil" - are you sure you have the right person here? :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:31, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Bill Lewis

Hello, I am Andi Mato/Andi Behr and I update Bill Lewis's page on his behalf. The information that I have added is correct and it is given to me by Bill Lewis himself and I do not understand how I can verify this information. I can give you Bill Lewis's email and you can confirm with him direct that the information supplied is accurate. Other than this I do not know how to prove that what he asks me to put on his page is correct. I would appreciate your advice on this matter. Yours Andi/Ana — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ana Behr (talk • contribs) 11:43, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Ana Behr, and thank you for leaving me a message here with this information. Unfortunately, you cannot add content to an article about a person and cite that you're receiving this information from that said person and are adding it on his/her behalf. There's no way that any of the information added can be verified for legitimacy and accuracy; we can't verify you, any email you provide and who it truly belongs to, or that you're even editing on this person's behalf or even know the person at all... it's impossible to do and to a level beyond any doubt... it just can't be done.

Assuming that what you're saying here is true, your edits to the article constitute original research which is not allowed on Wikipedia. All edits made to articles (especially edits made to articles that are biographies of living people, which undergo much more strict scrutiny than other articles) must be attributable to a reliable source that is secondary and completely independent of the article subject (meaning that someone's Twitter post, content that's from a website run by the person, etc. is not considered reliable), and all content added to a biography of a living person that's contentious in nature, negative, controversial, or even likely to be questioned or challenged for legitimacy or accuracy must be directly cited by a reliable source. We cannot and do not accept any content if it can't be attributed to, or isn't directly cited by, a reliable source. If you're reading through an article that's a biography of a living person and come across unreferenced content that's questionable and contentious in nature - remove it!

Depending on your relationship with this person, your edits may also constitute a conflict of interest with the article subject. Editing any articles where you have an outside or personal conflict of interest with the subject is highly discouraged behavior and will usually result in your changes being reverted by another editor upon discovering that you have a conflict of interest. Please don't edit articles where you have these conflicts, as it makes edits to be article impossible to reflect a neutral point of view and will result in inadvertent and unpremeditated bias being added regardless of intent. This also applies if you were to have the person himself edit the article and add content exactly like you did; the content added can't be verified, he can't be verified, it's original research, and an obvious conflict of interest (since someone is editing their own article).

I hope my response has pointed you in the correct direction. I'm sorry that it's not the response that you're hoping to read, but it's Wikipedia policy and its very important that policy is followed. It assures legitimacy, verifiability, and accuracy of the content people add, and assures that this encyclopedia reflects the highest quality content possible that can be written and created. Please review the policies and guidelines I've linked you to here - if you have any questions about them, please don't hesitate to let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again for the message and I wish you happy editing :-). Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:07, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Sorry!

Hey Oshwah, it seems that during recent changes patrol, I accidentally tried to revert an edit that was already reverted, and because of that, the semi-protected top icon has been removed. Apologies for wasting half a minute of your life putting that top icon back. Cheers! Contraption5000 (talk) 12:47, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Contraption5000 - No apologies are needed; it happens and it's not a big deal at all. Shoot, I do it all the time :-P. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:19, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

RCP

Different versions of me —AE (talk • contributions)

Greetings Oshwah! Thanks for your input on my talk page. I have RC patrolling for a few days. Instead of using the "likely have problems" and "likely bad faith" filters, I chose to use "likely good" and "likely good faith" filter. I am more and more passionate in helping and welcoming newcomers and IPs. One of the side effects in dealing with vandalism and trolls is that it makes me short tempered. Tbh it affected me (on and off-wiki) a lot. That's why I chose to help people rather than seeing bunches of bullshit. I am a Teahouse host incidentally, and I am very pleased when I receive a "thank you" for helping fellow editors. Newcomers are very important, right? Regards —AE (talk • contributions) 12:47, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Abelmoschus Esculentus! You're very welcome; I'm always happy to help and provide input when asked to ;-). I know that much of what I said was probably not what you were hoping to read, but I hope you understand that while it's important that feedback be left in a positive manner that sets realistic goals and doesn't leave one feeling disheartened or discouraged, it's important above all else that feedback is left honestly and with all aspects (good and bad) clearly stated. Else, I'd be setting you up for failure if I didn't leave feedback in the manners I mentioned... which would be both unfair and frustrating for you in the end. I know that having a user right revoked doesn't feel good at all... It's humiliating, embarrassing, and leaves you feeling like you've failed. Don't feel that way at all; consider what happened a small bump in the road. Just follow the input and advice given to you, give it a few months, and you'll be fine and have your rollback rights reinstated. In about a year or so from now, nobody is going to care and you'll have a good story of experience and an "I understand how you feel" moment that you can share with new users who may come to you for help and encouragement in the future. These kinds of issues are not deal breakers nor will they negatively impact your ability to grow, gain more experience, and be trusted with more user rights down the line; they all eventually just heal as Wikipedia scars. We all get them... hell, I have a lot of "Wikipedia experience scars" from all of the ridiculous and outright stupid and terrible mistakes that I've made in the past. Just ask anybody and they'll tell you about something dumb that I managed to do back in the day ;-). Just reflect on those scars, use each one as a learning opportunity, rise and move on from them, and (obviously) don't repeat the same mistakes repeatedly (lol). You have nothing to worry about... cheers, my friend :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:35, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		This is for your valuable efforts for reverting and protecting enwiki from Vandalism PATH SLOPU (Talk) 13:28, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Path slopu! Thank you for the barnstar and the wikilove! It really means a lot to me and I appreciate it very much. I hope you're having a good day, that the vandalism and disruption isn't getting too off the rails (I'm going to begin patrolling recent changes here after I assist with an ANI discussion that needs my help), and I'll (of course) see you out on the battlefield ;-). Thanks again - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:38, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

WP:BATTLE *cough cough* —AE (talk • contributions) 13:39, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Nahhh, that's a different kind of battle... These ones are good to win :-P ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:40, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Oh yeah, button pusher! —AE (talk • contributions) 13:41, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

It's true... I push a lot of buttons... a lot of them... lol ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:52, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Blocked account

Hello Oshwah,

I hope you are well? I am unable to edit or create a page and i was wondering if you could unblock it please?

Many thanks,

Jimmysc09 Jimmysc09 (talk) 13:42, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Jimmysc09: As per what I see , you are not blocked . Kpgjhpjm 13:54, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jimmysc09! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your request for help. Your account is not blocked from editing (else, you wouldn't have been able to edit this page and leave me a message here). New accounts are not able to create articles in the mainspace until they've become confirmed or auto-confirmed (your account just needs to be more than four days old and have made at least 10 edits). In the meantime, you're welcome to use the articles for creation process in order to create a draft page with your article contents. After you're finished, someone just need to review the page, approve it to be an article, and move it to the article mainspace for you - easy peasy! If you have any more questions or need any more help, please let me know and I'll be happy to lend you a hand ;-). Welcome to Wikipedia, and I hope you enjoy your stay with us and become a long-term contributor here! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:51, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

You've got mail

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Thegooduser - I received your email and assisted you with the procedures of what to do. All set :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:15, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Oshwah Emailed them. I hope everything will be all right.:)Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:18, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Do I need to forward you the email?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:24, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - Nope, no need :-). So long as you emailed the team and gave them the information, that's perfect and you don't need to do anything else. They'll handle everything from there. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:48, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Removed Coin Flip AR from external links on coin flipping article?

Hi,

I noticed you removed the external link to Coin Flip AR; I added this link because I thought it was appropriate.

There are several links to coin flipping websites, and code implementations. Coin Flip AR is the first implementation of coin flipping in Augmented Reality.

I'm curious as to why you deemed this to be inappropriate?

Kind Regards,

Rich — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A441:C72:1:C1A9:435C:A4A6:F78C (talk) 02:33, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! I actually went and removed the entire list of external links from that article. It's clearly become a list of people's websites showing off coin flips, and that's not what Wikipedia is for. I definitely wasn't picking on you individually when I reverted your addition to the list; I don't believe that all of those URLs are necessary... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:39, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Oshwah,

I'm new to wikipedia, so I thought it was appropriate. I think a fair response was to remove all the links. I appreciate your response!

-Rich — Preceding unsigned comment added by RichoRicho (talk • contribs) 02:46, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

RichoRicho! Welcome to Wikipedia! I'm glad that you joined, and I appreciate your response and understanding :-). Since you're new here, I highly recommend that you go through and complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial. It provides you with walkthroughs, guides, and shows you where to find important places and locations (such as Wikipedia policy, or talk pages). It'll definitely give you a significant advantage and provide you with guides that are actually pretty important. You're welcome to message me here any time; please don't hesitate to come to me with your questions, requests for help, or anything that you might need. I'll be happy to show you the ropes and help you become familiar and proficient with editing here. Again, I welcome you to Wikipedia and I hope you enjoy your stay, and that you become a long-term and experienced editor here :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:51, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your welcome and guidance! I've started the adventure ;-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by RichoRicho (talk • contribs) 03:03, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

RichoRicho! Awesome! enjoy the ride through the Wikipedia Adventure and wear your helmet! lol ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:05, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

The adventure was awesome. I can't believe I've been reading wikipedia since the beginning of time and missed the concept of NPOV.

Now I completely understand your edit, why it was needed, and moreover - why I shouldn't have posted that link in the first place.

Nice! :-) RichoRicho (talk) 04:02, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

RichoRicho - Awesome, man! You'll learn more as you edit, gain experience, and become more proficient and involved with the project. Just don't be afraid to ask questions if you're confused or not sure of what to do in a situation. Be kind and civil at all times to other editors and don't resort to making personal attacks toward anybody - ever! Even if an editor behaves in a ridiculously horrible fashion toward you - never ever stoop to their level and "punch back" at them. Keep your absolute cool and don't let yourself crack. Don't engage in edit warring if someone disagrees with your changes somewhere and reverts it - there's a protocol for resolving disputes and disagreements with other editors - follow it when this happens and work things out. Those are the typical pitfalls that novice editors fall into - avoid those pitfalls and you'll be way ahead of the game as far as maturity and experience compared to most others that are as new as yourself :-). If you have questions or need anything, don't hesitate to let me know. My talk page is always open to you :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:08, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Re Men in Black

I am sorry for my mistakes I made on Men in Black but I was archiving the talk page, I also put on the talk page now a note that the plot of the show needs to be expaneded --110.22.50.32 (talk) 03:30, 31 August 2018 (UTC)110.22.50.32 --~~

Hi there! No apologies are needed at all. I appreciate you for taking the time to explain what you were intending to do. When editing pages, just make sure to summarize and describe what you're changing in the edit summary. This allows other editors to see this explanation and understand what you're doing and why. It makes the world an easier place here ;-). I hope you have a great rest of your day and I wish you happy editing :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:32, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Heads up

Hello Oshwah. IMO, this isn't unsourced. It's not written in English. I have left a note on the user's talk page about it. Regards —AE (talk • contributions) 04:34, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Abelmoschus Esculentus - Ahh perfect - thanks for doing that and for the heads up! :-D ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:35, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

No subject

Yeah you reverted my edit from Rob Whittaker page that I referenced from his official Twitter page, why???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faingataa (talk • contribs) 04:51, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Faingataa Greetings to you. Please note that twitter, facebook, homepage, user generated content and etc are considered not independence source. Wikipedia is after Independence, reliable source. You have repeatedly removed the content which was a direct quote (which means you put your word on Robert's mounth) and removed reliable sources. Please see source in the page [9] and [10]. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 05:30, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Direct link: WP:SELFSOURCE —AE (talk • contributions) 05:35, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Abelmoschus Esculentus Yes understand and thanks. However, deleting existing independent reliable sources which support the content claimed do not serve a good purpose here. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 05:43, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Faingataa! As CASSIOPEIA and Abelmoschus Esculentus stated above - we cannot accept sources that are dependent on the article subject (such as their facebook, Twitter, personal websites or blogs, etc), and we cannot accept references that are not deemed reliable (such as being peer-reviewed for accuracy and using primary sources to gather their information). This assures that we're adding content that is the highest quality possible that is both accurate, neutral, and verifiable. If you have any additional questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them and help you further. Thanks for the message, and I wish you happy editing :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:49, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Deepfakes

I just registered to reply to your editing of my post. I can't really cite sources since there has been no media coverage on the positive applications of deep fakes in the visual effects industry. I have been active in the deep fakes community for using it as a visual effects technology for something that might be positive. I find my ethics questionable to a degree, and I'm willing to share something. I can't cite a youtube video as a source however.

The thing is, the article is slanted to show the software in a negative light, and it's potentially far more useful to benign users. Here are some of the examples. I didn't have hardware myself, but I did however ask some online friends to produce these videos for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAFIuPxUmiY&lc=z23lvx5hiwjeejwqd04t1aokg2yxsnhxu1zwjqne3iq0rk0h00410 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU4zAUplmYg

As my edits said, they can be used for surreal effects like these, but the news isn't covering things like this.

I'd also recommend that the article be merged with Schwatzeneggerization. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CaveDoctor (talk • contribs) 05:18, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi CaveDoctor! Welcome to Wikipedia! I'm glad that you registered an account with us! I highly recommend that you use your account when performing edits on Wikipedia, as doing so provides many benefits for you :-). The reason that I reverted your edits here and here to the Deepfake article was for different reasons. The first revert was due to the fact that the content you added did not reference or cite any reliable sources. Referencing sources with your addition of content assures both accuracy and verifiability with what you're changing. That's extremely paramount for building a high quality encyclopedia, and we rely on reliable source citations to make sure that we're adding accurate and true information. The second time I reverted your edits to the article was because I was concerned with your modification of a section and changing the title of a section from "Politics" to now be titled "Propaganda and Satire". Changing words and phrases to include these two words will draw concerns regarding Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy because many (if not most people) who do this have a point of view that is not within compliance of policy. It also added content that appeared to be original research, which is not allowed on Wikipedia. In order for your subsequent edits to this article to be successful, you will need to address and resolve the issues that I listed here. I highly recommend that you review the policy and guideline pages that I linked you to here so that you'll have a deeper and more clear understanding of expectations. If you have any more questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. Thanks for the message, and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:00, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

boi

what was wrong with my correction of Stefan "Molyneux"s page? I was simply correcting his misspelled name to the way it is supposed to be spelled by the United States of America when the Mulneaux family (myself included in this family) immigrated from France to the US. Nmulneaux21 (talk) 05:47, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Tct

I had made a contribution but you have rejected it... Muthukrishnan 26 (talk) 06:27, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Muthukrishnan 26, and thanks for leaving me a message here. Your edit here to The Coroner's Toolkit did not reference or cite any reliable sources in order to assert the accuracy and verifiability of what you were adding. This is important to do when adding content to an encyclopedia. Once you locate and cite sources with your edit, you'll be good to go. Please review the guideline pages I link you to here for more information and instructions. If you have any questions about anything in those guidelines, let me know and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. Thanks again for the message, and I hope you have a great rest of your day. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:33, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Deepfakes

 Your message to me says that my opinions are far from neutral, on the contrary they're very neutral, as I didn't delete any content that described the negative implications of the software being available.
 The page already has a slant to it, it doesn't highlight any of the positive aspects of the software, everything on the page is negative.

Labelling the paragraph in question Politics seems kind of dumb anyway.

 A better label for that paragraph is Satire, considering that putting Hitler's face on a political candidate you don't like would be a form of satire, as it would putting Saddam Hussein's or Bush's face over Trump's.

It could also be looked at as Propaganda.

 Highlighting Peel's video as political is true, but it's satirical in nature, and not all satire has to be funny, as anyone who read 1984, would be well aware of.
 Politics is a vague label that doesn't serve as a decent title of that paragraph.

Propaganda uses for this software are even scarier, and part of the page should be dedicated to it's dangers as a tool for malicious propaganda.

 I acknowledge the scary uses of deep fakes, and the messed up ways in which it can be used, but when the entire page is one massive insult to the software, it seems the page is already has already decided what my opinion on the topic should be, without giving me the ability to decide for myself.

Some positive uses of the software need to be cited.

 The only thing that the article talks about is revenge porn, and false footage, but the software has potential, and I've left links to make an example of that in hopes of neutralizing the article.

People need to be aware that it's more than a proverbial knife to stab someone or something with.

 If all articles were designed like that one, you could say any command line interface is used by hackers, and hackers are bad.

The Article reads like a hit piece. Software is used as a form of freedom of speech, and Wikipedia is a form of freedom of speech. If an Islamic, Christian, or Jewish fundamentalist claimed that Wikipedia is something that is evil because it expands one's mind on the potential that Abrahamic religions might be used as a weapon against them, and then kept taking it down because he said it was evil, that would be morally wrong. People need to be free to make an opinion of their own on the topic of Deep Fakes, just as they need to be free to determine if they want to practice a given spiritual belief. Thus, the article needs to show both sides of the scale. The article is vague, it also doesn't describe the process in which the software operates, and lacks the detailing that other pages have. The article also lacks information on how to detect if one is watching a deep fake, and other potential softwares that might succeed it, or variants of the software. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CaveDoctor (talk • contribs) 06:32, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

CaveDoctor - Going off my response to your previous message above, I think you're getting the wrong idea as to how to resolve the concerns you're expressing here in regards to the Deepfake article. Article content is not supposed to be "negative", and "balancing it out with positive content" isn't you resolve the issue. Content should never be negative or positively-worded ; they're supposed to be neutral. Have you gone through and completed Wikipedia's new user tutorial yet? If you haven't, I highly recommend that you stop what you're doing and go through and complete the entire tutorial. When you finish, you'll have a much greater understanding of Wikipedia's basic policies and guidelines, and you'll be much better equipped to edit the article and improve the content. Otherwise, if you choose not to do this, you'll only wind up spending hours of your time making what you believe to be improvements to the article only to have your changes reverted and find out that they aren't. Please take my advice and go through the tutorial - I promise that it will answer many if not most of your questions :-). Let me know how the tutorial goes and if you need my help with anything :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:07, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Removed content from Peel Technologies page.

Hi Oshwah,

Hope you're doing great.

I was reading about the Peel Technologies and few sentences were put in negatively ( looks like a personal opinion) and the attached reference links never said anything about the same.

For e.g you've mentioned Peel as Malware and attached an irrelevant article ( https://www.recode.net/2014/10/9/11631728/alibaba-invests-50-million-in-tv-remote-app-peel) which doesn't match with the content.

Please show me the reference link or any article published about declining userbase w.r.t the statement "it claims more than 120 million user activations though this is mostly due to auto downloads, the real people who use it are in heavy decline due to the overwhelming advertisements and battery drain which causes permanent damage to mobile devices"

Apps like Facebook, Google are preloaded and unless the user setups, it is considered as download. Also, please share your reference link about the Auto Downloads. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jithinjawahar (talk • contribs) 07:26, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jithinjawahar! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your concerns regarding the content at Peel Technologies. The reason I reverted your edit to the article was because you did not explain the reason for your removal of content using the edit summary field. You're welcome to continue editing the article as you were doing before; all you need to do differently with each edit you make in the future is explain and summarize exactly what you're doing and why in the edit summary field. This is what other editors look when reviewing the changes and edits made by others, and it will draw concerns when other editors see that you're removing entire sections from articles and without any explanation whatsoever. Adding edit summaries will resolve the issues you're running into with other editors undoing your changes. If you have any questions about anything regarding edit summaries and how to use them, let me know and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. Thanks again for the message, and I hope you have a great rest of your day. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:27, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Regarding editing of the Jeremy brett

Hi Oshwah i am Yaman. I saw that u removed my edit on Jeremy brett. In the 1st case I wrote absolutely true about the roles of Dr. Johm Watson, which was played first by David Burke and then by Edward Hardwick. So it was not a lie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kumar.yaman.9862 (talk • contribs) 07:29, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Kumar.yaman.9862, and thanks for leaving me a message here. I reverted your edits to Jeremy Brett because you didn't reference or cite any reliable sources to support the content you added. If you locate sources and cite them in-line with the content you're adding, you'll be set to go and there won't be any concerns. Please let me know if you have any more questions or concerns and I'll be happy to help you further. Thanks again for the message and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:18, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Andrei Popov pages edits.

Hello, Oshwah, first I noticed that mistake in the initial page - the year of birth is 1973, not 1971 as it is mentioned in under the Photo. Andrei Popov is a leading political analyst and civic activist in Moldova, so I decide to correct that mistake and made some edits on the page based on public information and Mr. Popov's official CV. I was about to put the references to the sources: https://www.ipis.md/en/ http://tv8.md/tv8-show-category/botanpopov/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY0ZcCJYBI0&list=PL9uZo1mBZWs0Ld9x3Rib1KeqfTwxoVE8J

I assure you that all information is purely factual and please you to allow them on the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.138.235.217 (talk) 07:29, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! It looks like you've located sources to support your changes - that was my concern and the reason I reverted your changes to the article. So long as you reference or cite sources that are reliable with the content you're adding, you'll be perfectly fine and you shouldn't run into any problems. Please let me know if you have any more questions or concerns and I'll be happy to help you further. Thanks again for the message and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:21, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Two years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:50, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Gerda Arendt - long time no chat! I hope things are going well for you. Thanks for the message... wow, another anniversary! I was just reminded the other day that I've been an admin for two years now. Time flies.... :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:53, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Things are fine privately. Look at my talk: festival time, and I haven't even added last night's, + one today, one tomorrow, Yo Yo Ma (long time not heard) one Tuesday. On Wikipedia, I have too much work, last week we remembered three great composers' anniversaries (still working on some of their compositions), two people died whom I wanted to bring to RD (one worked, not the other), plus what I normally do (thanking people, updating Bach cantatas, welcoming users, reverting vandalism). You could go over the DYK noms (including the "approved") and look at the many questioned hooks and postponed problems ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:04, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

ANI Thread about Talk Page Access Removal

Hi Oshwah,

I am posting because I have been reading this thread at ANI. I have read all the comments, and it seems to me that removing talk page access for the user respectfully asking for an improvement to be made is a bit overkill. That leads me to my question. As a new editor on Wikipedia am I allowed to add to that discussion that I also oppose removal of talk page access?

Kadane (talk) 08:29, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @Kadane: Hello. You are welcome to comment in any thread in those dramaboards noticeboards. Just make sure your comments are constructive and reasonable. Regards —AE (talk • contributions) 08:32, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

@Abelmoschus Esculentus: Thanks. I made my comment Kadane (talk) 08:37, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi Kadane! Great question! The short and simple answer is "Yes", you're absolutely allowed to participate in the discussion and add comments to it. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:38, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Oops sorry for the edit conflict :) —AE (talk • contributions) 08:39, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Abelmoschus Esculentus - No apologies are needed; they happen and they're nobody's fault :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:40, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Article redirection

Hello Oshwah, I want to create an Article which is of Newspaper agency but when i search it's name on Wikipedia it redirects to another page. Hanan (talk) 09:20, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Hananmuzaffar123! I hope your day is going well. What newspaper agency are you trying to create or expand content to? What page are you navigating to that redirects you? Can you provide me with the URL to it? This will help me to locate the page and assist you with what to do :-). Thanks - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:23, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Oshwah I'm trying to create article for Rising_Kashmir but it is redirecting to Shujaat_Bukhari. Furthermore website of Newspaper agency is http://risingkashmir.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hananmuzaffar123 (talk • contribs) 09:29, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

HelloOshwah — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hananmuzaffar123 (talk • contribs) 09:33, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hananmuzaffar123 - Ah, perfect... thank you for providing a link to the page you're trying to modify. If you're not aware of this, if you navigate to a page on Wikipedia and you're redirected to another page, you just need to locate the small text at the top of the page and under the title that'll say "redirected from XXXX". You'll just click on that link (in this case, it would be "XXXX") and you'll be sent back to the redirect page and without being redirected back. This will allow you to edit that page and modify it. If you're having trouble with finding that text, just take a look at this image that contains a screenshot of the location of that text. In that image, you would click on the "Pichilemo" link to navigate directly to the redirect page. You can then edit the page and go from there :-). If you have any more questions or still have trouble with creating this article, please let me know and I'll be happy to help you further. Thanks again for the message and I wish you good luck and happy editing with what you'll be creating :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:39, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Oshwah — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hananmuzaffar123 (talk • contribs) 09:43, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hananmuzaffar123 - No problem; always happy to help. Good luck out there ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:45, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

User talk:Harvel Aqua India

You may wish to revoke talk page access.--Cahk (talk) 09:28, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Cahk -  Done. Thanks for the message and the heads up. If you see any more edits like that, let me know and I'll be happy to take care of them ;-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:29, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

removal of the wiki page : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kausik_Bhaduri

I am the subject article of this page. I am not a public figure. I write occasionally and purely on armature basis. also I do not consider myself notable. hereby I request Wiki administrator to kindly delete the page. thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaskabed (talk • contribs) 10:18, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Kaskabed! For assistance regarding this matter (since you claim to be an article subject), you need to refer to this contact page. Follow the instructions, and you'll be in communication with the Volunteer Response Team. They have the tools and training in order to verify your identity and assist you with your particular concerns. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:29, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Check my article

Hello Oshwah Please check my article Rising_Kashmir_(disambiguation) and see if there is any voilation.
Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hananmuzaffar123 (talk • contribs) 10:45, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Hananmuzaffar123 - I took a quick glance at it, and I don't see any issues :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:46, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) (talk page stalker) well, just a ha'pennyworth from me if I may :) I'd suggest finding a couple more sources that aren't primary sources; third-party, independent, etc. is preferred. Carry on! —SerialNumber54129 ^{paranoia /cheap sh*t room} 10:51, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Serial Number 54129 - Your input is always welcome here :-). I agree with your suggestion. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:53, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Oshwah How can i remove disambiguation from it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hananmuzaffar123 (talk • contribs) 10:49, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hananmuzaffar123 - This is the title of the article, and it's fixed by moving the article to a new one. I've gone ahead and did this for you. Let me know if I can help you with anything else. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:53, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Oshwah you did my half work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hananmuzaffar123 (talk • contribs) 11:00, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

No problem; always happy to help :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:12, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

@Hananmuzaffar123: Article assessed. —AE (talk • contributions) 11:21, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

AE What does it mean?Hanan 11:28, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) (edit conflict) Hey Osh. Sock? see thread above 30 August "Vandalism warning" and subsq. indef. Maybe it's been resolved and I've missed it? Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 11:33, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Eagleash - The user involved with making that "Vandalism warning" discussion has been indef'd. Were you referring to that user being a sock puppet account? Or someone else? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:35, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Maybe the user who opened this thread is a sock puppet of the indeffed account? —AE (talk • contributions) 11:39, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm obviously slow today... I'm taking a look. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:39, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Obvious enough? —AE (talk • contributions) 11:40, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

It is now ;-)... lol ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:43, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Quacking duck —AE (talk • contributions) 11:44, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

HA! ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:45, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) (x4) (determined to post this eventually!) I was thinking that Hananmuzaffar123 might be a sock of Hananmuzaffar786. 123 began their TP today by adding an unblock request which they subsequently removed. Eagleash (talk) 11:50, 31 August 2018 (UTC):

Eagleash - Good call on the sock puppet users. I didn't notice that a similar username was asking me for help just yesterday. Account blocked - thank you sir! ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:51, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

10-Year-Old Human Enemy to Lavender Sphynx Cat-Like Extraterrestrial: Has There Been An Episode Guide With The Highest Amount of Vandals?

Greetings Oshwah.

Title of this forum: en.wikipedia.org/w/List_of_Kid_vs_Kat_Episodes

Back in November or December '17, another admin who hates vandals had protected the episode guide of Canuck animation series about a 10/11 year old boy named Coop and his feline-like enemy the aptly named Kat.

I know that they are off the air but you are not the one who locked the aforementioned guide.

You might be the one who semi-protected Ed Edd and Eddy's episode (and character guide) indefinitely ever since both of them got created a long time ago.

So instead of having it SP'd indefinitely, have it protected for three weeks and then it gets unlocked.

Last but not least, please respond to me as soon as possible.

With love,

67.81.163.178 (talk) 11:46, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! If you're looking to have the protection level changed on this article, you can request it be lowered or removed by visiting this page, following the instructions on the top of the page, and filing a request :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:48, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Saving Myself from being blocked

I'm Sorry I was trying to create something but then a warning came sorry about that. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 13:15, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! No need to worry; I didn't realize that you'd be given such a harsh warning for the edits you made. I've gone and fixed this. It looks like you were just making test edits - next time, you'll want to use the sandbox to make them so that live articles aren't affected :-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:18, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry I made a little mistake but I wanted to create Anniversaries and Special Events Article but that's a Little Too Soon. But I Will Create it when the time is right. I Can Create That article in October or November. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 13:30, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

It's not a big deal. Just take care when making edits, and ask for help in situations where you're not sure what the right decision or action should be. My talk page is always open to you; please don't hesitate to message me if you need help with anything and I'll be happy to do so. Best of luck :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:36, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

I'm Doing Just Fine And Thank You For Helping Me. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 15:04, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

No problem; always happy to lend a hand ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:05, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

You removed my edit for no references.

It was the page about Collin Furze. I don't know how to add references, but here is the source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWGquxvqI_Y

Can you tell me how to add references? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brobotics Brofessor (talk • contribs) 13:22, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Brobotics Brofessor! No worries; I'll be happy to help you with that. Wikipedia has a guideline page here regarding how to cite references in-line with the content you're adding to an article. I also have a message response I made here where I explain how to do this and provide an example - you'll find that example to be very useful :-). Please let me know if you have any more questions or if you need additional help - I'll be more than happy to assist you further. Best wishes! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:34, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

I tried using the visual editor but it said that I could only edit with the source editor, and the source editor just said { { References } } without actual citations, so I didn't know what to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brobotics Brofessor (talk • contribs) 14:01, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Brobotics Brofessor - I don't use the VisualEditor at all, but I would imagine that it has a button you can click that will display a wizard or window so you can add the reference information needed and have it format and it to article for you... are you still having trouble with getting references cited and added? Let me know; I want to make sure that you get the help you need :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:02, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Cody Rhodes Weight

https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes/status/1035219511128010752 This was the proof that I used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.135.6.239 (talk) 13:43, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi there, and thanks for leaving me a message here. I appreciate you for providing this information. However, we cannot use sources that are dependent on the article subject to cite this content. References we cite must be reliable, and using references that are independent of the subject is a requirement for a source to be considered reliable. On top of this, you should cite references in-line with your changes when you modify numeric data (such as one's birthday, weight, height, etc) so that this information can be easily verified for legitimacy and accuracy. Please let me know if you have any more questions or concerns, and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. Thanks again for the message, and I hope you have a great day. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:48, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

why do u ban me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lmao1323 (talk • contribs) 14:34, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Gatka false information.

The information given in the page was completely misleading. There is only one school that teaches all the weapons, techniques, tactics, strategies, principles and methods mentioned in the page. Most of the information in the page was taken from the website of the martial art of that school. The name of that martial art is Sanatan Shastarvidiya, with Nidar Singh Nihang as it's only master. They however, don't consider themselves a gatka school. Also, most gatka practitioners don't consider his school as a gatka school. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hoti Kubera (talk • contribs) 14:52, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Hoti Kubera - The reason I reverted one of your edits to Gatka was because you removed content without explaining your changes using the edit summary field. These edit summaries are listed on page histories and allow other editors to easily understand your changes. You just need to add edit summaries with each edit you make in the future; so long as you do this, you should have no more issues with confusion (such as what happened here). If you have any more questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks for the message, and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:44, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Deepfakes part 3

What I'm saying is this, there needs to be more perspective on that page besides it's use as a propaganda and revenge porn tool. I left 3 links showing it as a tool for visual effects. I think an article on the topic should show it's use as a visual effects tool, for purposes in cinematic visual effects. I also think that the article should contain technical details on how it works. A good neutral article should contain such information, so the user can actually imagine things when they read it. As for Politics and Satire. Again, the potential uses of the software in the context of youtube have been primarily Satirical, such as placing Trump's face over Nixon's, or Rodney Dangerfield's. The news sources barely cover it in this regard, and there are no sources that do that. The only sources available with the exception of one that I left a link to, only read like leftwing hit-pieces, that are pro censorship. The Article is not neutral. If the article were neutral it would provide technical details, and all possible uses of the software, besides it's uses in terms of propaganda, and revenge porn. I think that the uses listed in the paragraph labelled politics, sound like satire or propaganda, especially considering that there is a fine line between the two. It's a tool for content creation, and can also be used in producing memes. That article needs more content, to be truly neutral. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CaveDoctor (talk • contribs) 16:18, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

CaveDoctor - I agree that if there are more uses for this software that it should be added to the article and in a way that reflects a neutral point of view as well as fair due weight. However, if the content that's there now is encyclopedic, informative, and otherwise legit - we shouldn't remove it, but instead try and work to add content and information that the article doesn't have have written. If you haven't gone through and completed Wikipedia's new user tutorial, please make sure that you do so before you make more edits. It's an important tutorial that you should go through and complete, and choosing not to do this will put you at a significant disadvantage. I hope you take my advice and do so. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:50, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Josh Donaldson trade

I’m not seeing anywhere where Josh Donaldson has been officially traded to the Cardinals. He cleared waivers, which means he can be traded. He is still officially a member of the Toronto Blue Jays. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.2.154.167 (talk) 19:14, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! Ah, okay - I thought your edit was modifying what was set before to be different. It looks like you were changing things back - thanks for doing that :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:17, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

LPR. Sources

Hi. I live here. That fact is a source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.159.215.10 (talk) 19:29, 31 August 2018‎

(talk page stalker) Personal knowledge is not verifiable and therefore unacceptable. - FlightTime (open channel) 19:30, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) If you need more informations about what FlightTime said above, please check this. Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:01, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Charles Sims was cut

https://www.buccaneers.com/news/charles-sims-waived-from-ir-with-injury-settlement — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.127.28.193 (talk) 19:41, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! Perfect; thanks for locating a source. You'll just need to cite it in-line with the content you're changing on the article, and you'll be set to go. If you have any more questions or run into any trouble with citing your sources properly, please let me know and I'll be happy to help you further :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:03, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

joseph brant

http://biography.yourdictionary.com/joseph-brant and https://www.varsitytutors.com/earlyamerica/early-america-review/volume-3/chief-joseph-brant-mohawk-loyalist-and-freemason still unclear without a certificate. love the article by the way Rick — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.58.146.180 (talk) 19:47, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! Perfect; thanks for locating sources. You'll just need to cite them in-line them with the content you're changing, and you'll be set to go. If you have any more questions or run into any trouble with citing your sources properly, please let me know and I'll be happy to help you further :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:05, 1 September 2018 (UTC)