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Palatinate

For the approximations I used a sample of the colors from the Durham University webpage for palatinate. A sample of the color in the picture Image:Iris latifolia.jpg for iris, and the color purple for purpure. PaleAqua 05:48, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The problem with the shade for palatinate, is that no one seems to be really quite sure what colour palatinate actually is. My understanding is that it's quite a bit paler than the shade currently used by the University of Durham's PR department and on the website; certainly, if you visit Durham, you will see several different shades in common usage. Apparently the colour originally derives from cloth on Bishop Van Mildert's coat, but these may be faded over time and I cannot say I have ever seen a "true" sample of the colour myself to confirm. DWaterson 20:04, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The colour on this page is the one currently used in the University logo, but is a shade that wasn't particularly commonly in use until the rebrand last year. The shade described as palatinate in the University's academic dress is substantially paler - see here (the hood lining colour) - more like what's currently described as mauve or orchid. This isn't the nicest purple in the world, though, so other purples are often used instead of it in other circumstances. I suspect that the most authoritative palatinate would be the one on the academic dress - I don't think that the new University logo colour is claimed to be palatinate, merely purple - but I don't think there's an official definition. TSP 14:16, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still wondering what the best approach is too handle colors with out a standard color swatch, especially palatinate, iris and purpure. I noticed someone else removed the approximate label I had placed on the swatches. If we are going to use navigational templates it would be nice to have all the colors that apply in them. I noticed that other similar templates do not include all the colors from there category. Perhaps, put the colors without swatches at the bottom or omit them. PaleAqua 08:07, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Moving or splitting the template

Suggestions have been made to move and/or split this template to Template:Shades/Variations/Varieties of violet/purple. J i m p 00:52, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No swatch

Compare these.

					Current version
Amethyst	Cerise	Eggplant	Fuchsia	Heliotrope	Indigo	Lavender	Lavender blush	Lavender gray	Lavender rose	Lilac	Magenta

Mauve	Mountbatten pink	Orchid	Palatinate Purple	Persian indigo	Purple	Red-violet	Rose	Sangria	Thistle	Violet	Violet-eggplant

Wisteria

Shades of violet without swatches
Iris	Purpure

					Proposed version
Amethyst	Cerise	Eggplant	Fuchsia	Heliotrope	Indigo	Iris	Lavender	Lavender blush	Lavender gray	Lavender rose	Lilac
						no swatch
Magenta	Mauve	Mountbatten pink	Orchid	Palatinate Purple	Persian indigo	Purple	Purpure	Red-violet	Rose	Sangria	Thistle
							no swatch
Violet	Violet-eggplant	Wisteria

Which is better? J i m p 07:05, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I prefer the 2nd version myself. An older version of this template did have a similar layout though it used approximate colors for the swatches. I believe this is the only navigation that includes colors without swatches. I'd also recommend taking any discussion on these templates to Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Color. PaleAqua 15:22, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's the only one in Category:Shades of color to do so, although, Template:Shades of grey should probably also have them (my fault). I will mention this on the talk page you mention. J i m p 16:29, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've fixed Template:Shades of grey up using this style. J i m p 18:28, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]