Template talk:Long

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This template was considered for deletion on 2006 December 19. The result of the discussion was "to keep".

RyanG e rbil10(Упражнение В!) 08:11, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This template is being used on articles that are not 200 KB long. Either it should be changed to a lower number, or multiple versions should be made. Ardric47 02:41, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I will be changing the size to 150 kB, after having removed the template from pages shorter than that size. Perhaps this should still be made more flexible, though. I don't know offhand how to do this, but for example: {{Long|170}} would generate a message like "This article is over 170 kB in size..." I'll try to work on it. Ardric47 00:33, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I propose making my test, User:Ardric47/T1, the new version of this. Ardric47 23:12, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There were no objections or comments, so I have changed it. Ardric47 19:26, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When does the warning appear on the edit page? Isn't it 70kb or something? Whatever it is, wouldn't it makes sense for that to be the default value? Koweja 18:58, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Placement[edit]

This template should be placed at the top of talk pages, not at the top of articles. There is no reason to bombard every casual reader with such a message. For almost any article with such a length, there will be an active talk page. A split would have to be discussed there anyway. So, the template can usefully go there informing normal editors without clubbing everyone else who just wants some info. And before you go there, splitting pages up is not a good first-time exercise for a new editor. So, we do not want to attract ordinary readers to become editors this way. Derex 10:33, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Readers care about neutrality and accuracy of articles, but not about excessively long articles. — Omegatron 03:59, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Browser problems?[edit]

According to Wikipedia:Article size, browser limitations are no longer a serious problem, and the size guidelines are mostly for readers' convenience. I propose removing the second sentence from the template. CMummert · talk 03:10, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

150kb was removed[edit]

An anon changed the wording of the template around a month ago without discussing it. I re-inserted it. Quadzilla99 02:47, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

At least some of the articles transcluding this are less than 150kb, but they are still long. The size in bytes is not entirely relevant as excess wikimarkup does not increase vertical page length. This should be merged with {{Verylong}} as both cover the same set of articles. –Pomte 06:57, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]