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Differentiation[edit]

Given that there really is an Australian Dictionary of Biography, which is completely different from the Dictionary of Australian Biography, this redirect is extremely problematic. Hesperian 12:27, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I now replaced the redirect with source code of Template:Dictionary of Australian Biography plus a warning sign encouraging a migration to the proper Template:Dictionary of Australian Biography. This should hopefully reduce the use of this template. Then, a similar migration should take place from Template:ADB to here, freeing ADB for a disamb of the three properly named templates. -- Matthead DisOuß 07:37, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As the first step, the depopulation of wrong use of this template here was successful, I now encourage a move from the abbreviated from ADB to the full Australian Dictionary of Biography. -- Matthead DisOuß 17:25, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Authorlink[edit]

The parameter |authorlink= doesn't seem to work. Here's an axample from the article Douglas MacArthur#General Headquarters:

{{Australian Dictionary of Biography 
 |last=Horner 
 |first=David 
 |authorlink=David Horner
 |year=2000
 |id=A150186b
 |title= MacArthur, Douglas (1880–1964)
 |accessdate=March 6, 2010
}}

which renders as:

Horner, David (2000). "MacArthur, Douglas (1880–1964)". Australian Dictionary of Biography. National Centre of Biography, Australian National University. ISSN 1833-7538. Retrieved March 6, 2010.

No wikilink for David Horner is produced. Someone more versed in template matters than me should fix this. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 13:52, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that, I think it should be fixed now. —3mta3 (talk) 16:57, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ID field no longer useful?[edit]

The ADB's URL no longer includes an ID field in the way in which this template has been set up to look for. While the old links still work (for now at least), this seems to make the template pretty useless. For instance, I have no idea how to use it to link to the entry on Harry Gullet. Nick-D (talk) 09:52, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. The web site has moved from http://www.adb.online.anu.edu.au/ to http://adb.anu.edu.au and the naming convention has changed. One could, for example, as another id field - perhaps id2 - that generates a url to the new location. Billingd (talk) 05:29, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I've added an id2 to use for the new format. This overrides the id field. Billingd (talk) 10:40, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Great work - thanks again Nick-D (talk) 10:47, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not so great work by the ADB – the old links don't seem to work anymore. Now what? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:25, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No. That was my fault. There was a typo in my fix. Should be OK now. Tested it, but copied the wrong one :-(. Billingd (talk) 11:36, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Much better now; thanks. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 13:06, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Anchor[edit]

Would it be possible to add a ref={{ref}} so it can generate an anchor in the references? Hawkeye7 (talk) 04:48, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple authors[edit]

A number of articles have multiple authors, could the coding be changed to allow this? Hack (talk) 06:32, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That seems to be quite simple. This template calls {{Cite encyclopedia}} which seems to deal with any number of authors, so all that's required is to pass on |first2=, |last2=, etc.:

 |last2 = {{{last2|}}}
 |first2 = {{{first2|}}}
 . . .

-- Michael Bednarek (talk) 07:22, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There may be more to it than that. I updated the template as suggested, however when used on Susie O'Reilly, a cite error appears in the reflist. Hack (talk) 10:51, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 1 March 2016[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: MOVED to Template:Cite Australian Dictionary of Biography. Quoth (talk) 15:52, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Australian Dictionary of Biography → Template:Cite AuDB – To bring this template more in line with other citation templates, and make it significantly more concise for inline reference use. While I believe it was originally moved here to disambiguate it from the German ADB and its citation template, I think "AuDB" will be disambiguation enough. Quoth (talk) 12:05, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I assume you mean Template:Cite AuDB and not Cite AuDB ? -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 04:46, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Right you are, I've made the correction above. — Quoth (talk) 21:27, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose instead of making minor distinction between {{Cite ADB}} ({{Cite DeDB}}) and {{Cite AuDB}}, both templates should be renamed to template:Cite Australian Dictionary of Biography and template:Cite Allgemeine Deutsche Biographie instead. We can deal with the redirects separately. "ADB" would be a poor choice because of the two databases using the same -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 05:00, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- I was thinking more in line with single-source citation templates such as {{Cite DCB}}, {{Cite EB1911}}, {{Cite OED}}, and most of the templates under Category:Dictionary source templates, which are abbreviated, I assume, for convenience and economy of space. I don't think our templates need to be as precisely named as our article titles due to their very different uses. With that in mind, I thought "AuDB" would be a neat compromise after seeing it listed in its own Wikipedia article as an abbreviation — though I can't say if it is indeed a common abbreviation, I think it should certainly be enough for our purposes. — Quoth (talk) 23:07, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  - There's no real reason to use abbreviated forms for the template names, since redirects in template space work fine. The name of the actual template should be clear, while people can choose to use the shortform redirects. -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 04:22, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    - This sounds fair enough. I'll put in a request to move this template to Template:Cite Australian Dictionary of Biography and then set up a redirect for convenience. – Quoth (talk) 13:50, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Wrapper template[edit]

This template has been subject to numerous changes and additions to cope with the demands of CS1-based templates. As the template is merely a repackaging of Template:Cite encyclopedia, the obvious permanent solution is to use the existing mechanism of Module:Template wrapper to make it a proper wrapper template. This way, any additional parameters that may be required in particular circumstances will always be accommodated. I converted this template a few days ago, and my testing didn't show any adverse effects. Today, User:Vortex3427 reverted my change without any edit summary. I would be most interested in his reasoning for that revert. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 09:56, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]