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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by LordPeterII (talk) 17:51, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Silvia Hauer

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 10:10, 14 October 2022 (UTC).


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: No problem with an extra day. It's not worth quibbling over an extra day on DYK in my opinion, because the international datelines make it confusing, and DYK nominations can stay in the queue for weeks or months, which (I believe) makes a single extra day irrelevant. Anyway, if a nominator has good intentions, it would be a pity to penalise them on something minor like that. (Besides, my mum used to say, "Never apologise; people will think you've done something wrong!")

I have found the citations for Rosina and Carmen, but cannot access the citation for Verdi's Requiem, so I'll take that in good faith.

The hook alludes to Hauer's long association with her home orchestra, listing two of her past performances with them, and then her recent performance with them this year. I like that; it places her strongly in her musical environment. Good to go. Storye book (talk) 14:03, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

  • I find the hook confusing. The structure of the sentence implies that her singing a mezzo-soprano solo in Requiem would be unexpected in contrast to the voices she had sung in previous performances. But, from what I can see by reading our articles on the subjects (I'm far from an opera expert), that is not in fact the case. Also, @Gerda Arendt: "Source: several" isn't very helpful. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:03, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
    The reviewer found the hook not confusing, and found the references. Perhaps turn to nominations that still need a reviewer? About the sentence: if it said "but" for the Verdi, I'd understand. I say "several" when there are more than one for different facts (in this case four facts: opera house, the two roles and the concert part, speaking about growth and versatility, because I believe that their repetition blows up the nom(s page), and a reviewer needs to check that each is in the article anyway. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:31, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
Well, the rules for promoting say, It is the promoter's responsibility to make sure ... the hook is verified by sourcing within the article. If you make it more difficult to verify by just saying "several", I'm likely to just skip it over and find another hook that's easier to process. I guess that's up to you. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:57, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
You didn't say you were about to promote. Go ahead, skip. I had a hook in the last three sets, and that's too fast for my taste. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:05, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
They are not rules. They are guidelines. If a nominator ways "several citations", that does not disqualify them from DYK. I found the citations, no problem. Other reviewers have found "several" citations for this nominator in the past, too. I could not access the Verdi Requiem citation no.7, because it has a paywall. But this nominator has been here a long time and has a good reputation for honesty, so I can take the citation in good faith; that is normal practice here. RoySmith, please skip as much as you like - there are plenty of other reviewers available, and this review has been done already, anyway.
Repeat green tick to prevent confusion. Storye book (talk) 20:22, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
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