The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 09:22, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Overall: Source five seems to be the wrong source, listed as New York Times, but it is a url to operaonvideo.com. Was able to search up the NYT article but NYT won't let me see that, so have to go on trust with that one. ~ R.T.G 14:10, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
RTG, sorry, - I failed to insert the link. Great that you looked it up. - Captain Medusa, you need to read the fine print. It was only in the Recent deaths section, which creates no conflict. Look at Jessye Norman and many others before. - It can happen, though, that I won't do it again, too much waste of time having to defend saying something summarising the achievements of someone who just died. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:24, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: apologies, I didn't also add the url after I clicked it!! But it's fixed now. I think for the hook, maybe the fact he brought the Ukrainian National Ballet to Europe, Japan, China and Singapore on a tour? It was just that the article said he was in many films, so I didn't see a catchy significance on this particular film.. Don't despair, Gerda! It's a good article :)~ ~ R.T.G 19:33, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. I think it's quirky that a Ukrainian singer played an Italian role in a Russian film, and as he was a singer (and film actor) for a much longer time than theatre director, so I'd like to say a bit about that (and you can see it on YouTube). I always find one specific thing more to-the-point than some general "played in many films". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:47, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
When you say it like that it does seem more interesting. I'm not sure if it is just me or if a rewrite would help. Would it be possible, instead of "the Ukrainian baritone Anatoliy..." to try "that baritone and artistic director of the Ukrainian National Opera, Professor Anatoliy Mokrenko, once played an Italian role in a Russian movie of the Donizetti tragedy, Lucia di Lammermoor?"
Don't worry about making an especially big deal of it. It's good to go in either case, ~ R.T.G 20:50, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
That's possibly better, and English is not my native tongue, - I have this little problem that he wasn't yet opera director when he played in the film, and "once" seems to contradict the "many films", sounding like a one-time-exception to me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:13, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
The language is fine. I'm just trying to bring the items "Italian role" and "Russian film" closer together in the sentence to emphasise the hookiness. How about...
RTG, the "done" template doesn't mean anything in particular at DYK. If you are approving this nomination, then you need to substitute one of the DYK tick templates from the table directly above the edit window as per the note under that table. (The bot only recognizes those particular ticks.) I'm also proposing an ALT2b, because "after" doesn't convey the same thing in American English (I read it as him being in a Russian film at some point after performing in Lucia); since the article uses "based on", I've used that here:
Source five seems to be the wrong source, listed as New York Times, but it is a url to operaonvideo.com. Was able to search up the NYT article but NYT won't let me see that, so have to go on trust with that one. ~ R.T.G 14:10, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt:, @RTG: The article appeared in ITN so it is ineligible for DYK. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 14:23, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
