Talk:Women writers in Chinese literature

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Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment[edit]

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 1 September 2020 and 22 December 2020. Further details are available on the course page. Peer reviewers: Ikura24, Buddin9ss.

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Lead[edit]

1. Grammar checked the lead and corrected the errors.Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 21:22, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2. Grammar check "Early Female Writers," Fixed punctuation errors and fixed grammar errors. Modify the sentence pattern to make the sentence easier to understand. Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 21:35, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Early Female Writers[edit]

1. added background information for "Early Female Writers." Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 03:11, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

20th-century writers and feminism[edit]

1. Added background information on how women writers and feminism rises. This was copied from my sandbox which can be found here User:Kyyrxrax08/Women writers in Chinese literature Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 02:56, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2. Change Mao to Chairman Mao, and added a link to Mao Zedong.Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 21:46, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

3. Grammar check: fixed punctuation errors and fixed grammar errors. Modify the sentence pattern to make the sentence easier to understand.Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 21:46, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Minor Changes[edit]

1.Combine repeated reference, make the reference list more clear Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 02:56, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2.Fixed the grammar mistakes and modified the sentence to make the sentence more understandable.Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 02:56, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

3.Edit the heading，removed (the 1940s)from the heading.Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 20:14, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

4.Removed San Mao from Women Writers in Modern China (the 1940s) since San Mao did not start writing in the 1940s. Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 19:50, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

5. Added San Mao since I decided to include women writers from the late 19 century to the modern.Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 21:26, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Add Links[edit]

1.Added links to other Wikipedia pages for words "British opium war," "1911 revolution", "feminist movement," "Confucian idealogy," "Mao." Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 19:50, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Created a new heading Women Writers in Modern China[edit]

1.Added background information on women writer Lu Yin, and cited the references. This was copied from my sandbox which can be found here User:Kyyrxrax08/Women writers in Chinese literature Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 21:26, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2.Added background information on women writer Xie Wanying, and cited the references. This was copied from my sandbox which can be found here User:Kyyrxrax08/Women writers in Chinese literature Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 21:26, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

3.Added background information on women writer Shi Pingmei, and cited the references. This was copied from my sandbox which can be found here User:Kyyrxrax08/Women writers in Chinese literature Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 21:26, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

3.1 Fixed punctuation errors and fixed grammar errors for Shi Pingmei's part.Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 21:52, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

4.Added background information on women writer Ding Ling, and cited the references. This was copied from my sandbox which can be found here User:Kyyrxrax08/Women writers in Chinese literature Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 20:26, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

5.Added background information on women writer Xiao Hong, and cited the references. This was copied from my sandbox which can be found here User:Kyyrxrax08/Women writers in Chinese literature Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 20:26, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

6.Added background information on women writer Eileen Chang, and cited the references. This was copied from my sandbox which can be found here User:Kyyrxrax08/Women writers in Chinese literature Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 20:26, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

7.Added background information on women writer San Mao, and cited the references. This was copied from my sandbox which can be found here User:Kyyrxrax08/Women writers in Chinese literature Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 20:26, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

8.Removed Ding Ling temporarily, needed to find academic sources.Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 19:50, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

9.Added Ding Ling's background information edited the reference for Ding Ling's introduction. This was copied from my sandbox, which can be found here. Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 19:50, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

10.Edit the format of birth and died information. Making the page more readable.Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 21:26, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

11.Edit Women writers in chronological order.Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 21:26, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

12.Grammar checks the content and fixes the errors.Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 21:26, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

13. Added the background information, illustrate the beginning of modern female literature starts after the May Fourth Movement.Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 03:51, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Created a new heading, "See also."[edit]

Added relevant links to other Wikipedia. Kyyrxrax08 (talk) 19:50, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality[edit]

I'm concerned with the writing style of this article, which does not seem to reflect wikipedia's NPOV standards. Many descriptions of authors and historical periods seem to be straight up opinion, but not marked as such.

For example, on Eileen Chang (in "Women writers in Modern China"). "Eileen Chang is a uniquely charming writer in the history of modern Chinese literature." Uniquely charming according to whom? "Her life-long creation involves novels, essays, and script reviews, among which novels have achieved the highest achievement." Highest achievement by what standard? The most preferred of one wikipedia editor? "She has expanded a new horizon of female criticism and a new world of female literature." Sounds like something more appropriate for a marketing team selling a new book rather than a non-biased encyclopedia article.

Or, on the contrary, see the non NPOV description of the Maoist brand of feminism (in "20th-century writers and feminism"): "However, the establishment of this ideology did not liberate women; instead, it undermined the feminine voice by forcing women to take a male-oriented stance on public and domestic policy." This sort of claim requires attribution and should not be reported as undisputed fact, as I'm sure there are many who would disagree with what is argued here.

There are many other examples throughout the article, which also needs cleaning up for repetition and writing style. See for example on Xiao Hong. "Xiao Hong is a female writer with a unique artistic style. She is unique in literature history with her mixed emotional tone, hard and soft language style. Xiao Hong is a typical female youth in literature with her exceptional writing perspective and writing structure in her works." Three sentences in a row mentioning her unique style, and the final sentence (along with being non NPOV) is pretty much unintelligible (is she exceptional or typical? What is the difference between writing perspective and writing structure here?).

I lack the background in Chinese literature to do appropriate rewrites myself, but the article should definitely be flagged both for bias and writing quality, which do not reflect Wikipedia standards. 153.242.134.0 (talk) 04:15, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]