Talk:Third World approaches to international law

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This page is not unambiguously promotional, because I am still adding more information about "TWAIL", including the criticism that is being given. It's a neutral, un-biased entry.

Unbiased entries wouldnt say: seek to change this oppressive system. Legoktm (talk) 20:03, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This page is not unambiguously promotional, because I have created an unbiased account of what TWAIL is using various diverse references and I have even given the criticism that was raised against TWAIL. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shafferan (talk • contribs) 21:31, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not particularly sure what lego is suggested: TWAIL does not claim to be unbiased. TWAIL scholars challenge what they regard as oppression within international law. The authors of this post appear to simply be restating what the scholars behind the methodology are arguing.

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I fixed the issue by placing the term in quotes and adding a reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shafferan (talk • contribs) 22:27, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This page is not unambiguously promotional because, as the article describes, TWAIL scholars are challenging a generally accepted viewpoint of international law. In that aspect, TWAIL is a representative epistemological viewpoint that corresponds to an unavoidably subjective perception from a very specific cultural standpoint. At the same time, in order to remain faithful to the sources and the spirit of TWAIL, the authors of the article have obviously used terminology that would point out that subjective quality of TWAIL scholarship in a most objective fashion. Hence, the article in itself promotes certain features that should be stressed for the profound understanding of the theory behind TWAIL, but in no way should be perceived as promoting one view over another. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.74.107.223 (talk) 23:00, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This page is not unambiguously promotional. It provides an overview of a particular legal methodology and does not, at any point, attempt to promote or market any product or service. In fact, I'm rather confused to why this entry does not qualify as encyclopedic. What exactly is being promoted other than knowledge about a given methodology?

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This page is not unambiguously promotional, because TWAIL is a recognized movement within legal academia. To delete this entry would be marginalizing the legal theory and empowering the dominant discourse that TWAIL aims to engage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nbalegal (talk • contribs) 22:02, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No seriously please look at this page[edit]

{{admin help}} I really don't care whether the CSD is accepted or not, but the editor has raised concerns multiple times about contesting it, so if an admin can please look at it and make a decision? It has been over 24 hours since I applied a speedy deletion tag. Legoktm (talk) 22:05, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved. Legoktm (talk) 23:30, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This page is not unambiguously promotional, because it represents a significant scholarly theory and attendant movement, similar to post-colonialism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postcolonialism) -- notability is clearly met, as it represents an important contribution to wikipedia coverage of jurisprudential topics, i.e., international legal process (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_process_%28jurisprudence%29)--141.225.175.83 (talk) 22:10, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This page is not unambiguously promotional, because it clearly explains how scholars who are part of Third World Approaches to International Law (TWAIL) understand and address international law. The page does not promote this perspective as the best view nor does it suggest this is the only perspective about international law. Moreover, it objectively provides critical responses to TWAIL. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Superzhango (talk • contribs) 22:20, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This page is not unambiguously promotional, because... (your reason here) --64.246.212.4 (talk) 22:21, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Third World Approaches to International Law (TWAIL) is a long standing movement within international legal theory, and it is surprising that it is not already on wikipedia. There have been at least three major conferences (e.g., Harvard, Oregon, Toronto) on TWAIL, and numerous authors have published books self-referencing themselves as using the TWAIL tradition, and countless articles and special editions in respected law journals. Recently SALT (Society of American Law Teachers) held a conference and two of its panels were specifically on TWAIL, and ASIL (American Society of International Law) recently had one of the main TWAIL scholars give a keynote address. TWAIL is not a particular entity but a broad movement / intellectual tradition within international law, the same way you have 'critical race theory', 'subaltern studies' and so forth. This is unquestionably appropriate for wikipedia.

Warmest regards, Dr. John D. Haskell Assistant Professor, Mississippi College School of Law Honorary Research Fellow, Durham Law School [email protected]