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Merger[edit]

The result was speedy merge and redirect. No need to get bogged down in a lengthy discussion when it's open and shut: the other article was, a) a stub, b) the later version, and c) less comprehensive than this. ——Serial 18:13, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Looks like I created the same article under the heading 2021 Cape Town fire. Time for a merger. Who would like to have the honour? --Discott (talk) 17:58, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Discott, I think anyone can merge the page. Whoever's done with it can ping here. --Sitaphul (talk) 18:05, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Y Merger complete. --Sitaphul (talk) 18:19, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for doing the merger. I was also talking about merging the content in addition to doing a page redirect.--Discott (talk) 18:23, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

University of Cape Town Building fire[edit]

HW Pearson Building (Department of Biological Sciences)^[1]
Jagger Library (gutted)
Fuller Hall ^[2] & Smuts Hall ^[3]
Cadboll house (gutted)^[4]
Molecular and Cell Biology Building (?)

Axxter99 (talk) 18:42, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently there were shutter doors in the library that saved some items [1]. But we need good references to add this info to the article. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 18:55, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Possible impact on the Bolus Herbarium (housed in the HW Pearson building) is relevant when a source can be found. Zaian (talk) 20:55, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The only reference I been able to find for this (destroyed buildings at UCT) so far has been from The South African.^[5] As a source it is frowned on as being a bit of a tabloid even though what they say in this article is correct.--Discott (talk) 20:56, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://twitter.com/TheCapeArgus/status/1383790457398849540
^ https://twitter.com/947/status/1383845750770049028
^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF9N5rneYM4
^ https://twitter.com/MissMuthwa/status/1383763342297165839
^ Cape Town fire latest: Devastating blaze ‘not yet under control’ (18 April 2021)

Article title[edit]

@Cutlass: I went with Table Mountain Fire (2021) since it matched the style of those at Table Mountain Fire. Should those others also be renamed? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:26, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, because the lead says "2021 Table Mountain Fire." So do the others, such as 2009 Table Mountain Fire. --Cutlass ^Ciera 20:27, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The names of the other fires at this location should be renamed to fit the style of the title of this article. Year first is standard. Fire isn't a proper noun, so it shouldn't begin with a capital letter. Jim Michael (talk) 07:55, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bergie[edit]

Are we really lending credence to the "mountain dwelling vagrant" terminology and theory? That seems like something not worth mentioning in the stereotyping abstract, and not worth mentioning at all until it is substantiated. – SJ + 03:47, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There are reliable sources saying that it was started by a vagrant, but I agree that the page Bergie should not be linked (and probably shouldn't be on WP either). Zaian (talk) 10:00, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Jagger Library[edit]

Draft:Jagger Library (translate Portuguese) Axxter99 (talk) 09:52, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Photographs[edit]

I added a photograph I took today to illustrate the fire in the infobox. It is not the best photo of the event nor is it iconic of the blaze at UCT but it can be a place holder image until a better one is uploaded.--Discott (talk) 09:59, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The fire photo--great, but permitted?[edit]

As impressive as that night photo of the fire on the mountain is, I wonder if it's permissible to use it. Hate to be a spoilsport, but these things are important. Uporządnicki (talk) 13:25, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure. The uploader of that photo has had 2 images tagged for deletion before due to missing permission information. I may revert back to the version made by Discott if necessary. Deauthorized. ^(talk) 13:33, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@AzseicsoK: Looks like you got your answer. Deauthorized. ^(talk) 03:29, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://twitter.com/TheCapeArgus/status/1383790457398849540

[2] ttps://twitter.com/947/status/1383845750770049028

[3] ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF9N5rneYM4

[4] ttps://twitter.com/MissMuthwa/status/1383763342297165839

[5] Cape Town fire latest: Devastating blaze ‘not yet under control’ (18 April 2021)

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