Talk:Stepove, Velykomykhailivka rural hromada, Synelnykove Raion, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast

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Requested move 31 May 2023[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Stepove, Synelnykove Raion, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast → Stepove, Velykomykhailivka Rural Community – As I noted in the previous deletion discussion, the title of this page is ambiguous with the other (currently populated) village of Stepove in Synelnykove Raion (the naming issue arose following the merger of Pokrovske Raion into Synelnykove in 2015). See uk:Степове (Великомихайлівська сільська громада) and uk:Степове_(Синельниківський_район).

My proposal is to follow suit with ukwiki on this (but to use commas instead of brackets, which appears to be preferred on enwiki), but there are some other options that also seem sensible to me:

  • Stepove, Velykomykhailivka Rural Community, Synelnykove Raion – if simply "Velykomykhailivka Rural Community" is too broad
  • Stepove, Velykomykhailivka Rural Community, Synelnykove Raion, Dnipropetrovk Oblast if we want a complete description of the location, although I think this might be excessive
  • Stepove, Pokrovske Raion(, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast) – to preserve the raion this village was formerly in when it was populated, although to do this I think we would need a source showing that the village was indeed populated when such a raion existed (I looked and found none).

Can anyone who knows policy better than me weigh in on this?

Either way, I'd like to stress that renaming the article is imperative: currently, it is far too easy to get it mixed up with the currently-populated village of Stepove, also in Synelnykove Raion (on which we do not currently have an article, but that's a project for another day :)). I know it's a sticky situation because we have an article on only one of these villages, but the one which is populated is clearly more noteable (according to GNG, even), and we need to acknowledge that when naming articles.

All the best, Akakievich (talk) 19:26, 31 May 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Frostly (talk) 01:42, 9 June 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 02:38, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Close the RM I boldly moved this article as such a thing did not require a formal RM. Your proposal mistranslated сільська громада, the real translation would be "rural hromada" and not "Rural Community". And it is indeed the long version that is usually applied on Wikipedia for Ukrainian place names. See this random example, Blahodatne, Olhynka settlement hromada, Volnovakha Raion, Donetsk Oblast. There's countless others. And using the name of a former administrative unit would not be allowed. Super Ψ Dro 09:17, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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