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Gandaman[edit]

What is Gandaman ? Village name? School name? Rmhermen (talk) 19:23, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mujhe bahut hi dhukh hain ?bihar main yesi kabhi ghtna na ho bhagwaan ye aayhi prathna krta hun food poigine ka khyal dekh rekh khana pina ka hona chahiye sabhi school main ...... Dhanyawad :@allgrowzone Dhananjay Kumar Singh@bihargov 2409:4080:8608:91A9:F96C:D3DF:B049:F991 (talk) 08:12, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mashrakh prakhand main (gandaman )chota sa gaw hai jo ki dharmasati ke bhi name se jana jata hain .. 2409:4080:8608:91A9:F96C:D3DF:B049:F991 (talk) 08:21, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A better name?[edit]

May I suggest using a different place name in the title of the article? Saran can easily be confused with Sarin, which is a poisonous organophosphorus compound. Perhaps "Mashrakh school lunch poisoning incident"? -- tariqabjotu 04:34, 18 July 2013 (UTC) [Pinging ThaddeusB (talk · contribs) in case s/he isn't watching this talk page -- tariqabjotu 04:48, 18 July 2013 (UTC)][reply]

I have no problem with a rename, but I would suggest going the other direction (up in size rather than down) and go with "Bihar school lunch poisoning incident" because the village name isn't in most reports and apparently has multiple names (i.e. translations to English). Feel free to make the move if that title works for you. --ThaddeusB (talk) 05:46, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

After further investigation it appears that "Dharmashati Gandaman" is the village while "Mashrakh" is a political division (block), so "Mashrakh school lunch poisoning incident" is fine by me, but "Bihar" is the term most used in the (non-India) media so I'd still lean that direction. Your call as to which you prefer (or I encourage a third party can chime in). --ThaddeusB (talk) 05:57, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bihar is used more commonly throughout the article as well, so I'd lean towards Bihar in the article title, should it be moved. Airplaneman ✈ 06:17, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The incident has been reported as Bihar mid-day meal tragedy in most of Indian media. I support renaming it as such.Shyamsunder (talk) 06:25, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I guess the only thing to watch out for in that case is the relatively rare use of the term "mid-day meal" in the English language to refer to lunch, and the sensationalistic undertone of "tragedy". Airplaneman ✈ 07:03, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Is "mid-day meal" more common in Indian English? WhisperToMe (talk) 09:03, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No it is not. The alternative title may be Bihar school meal deaths. That should be ok .International media has used this or something similar. Shyamsunder (talk) 10:01, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How would the title 2013 Bihar school meal deaths be? - Jayadevp13 11:14, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I renamed it "Bihar school meal poisoning incident" for now since there seemed to be an agreement on "Bihar" and "meal". I have no objection to any of the suggested titles, it was just unclear which (if any) was preferred. Please continue the discussion. --ThaddeusB (talk) 15:03, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hindi article[edit]

For those who know Hindi, please see hi:सारन स्कूल मध्याह्न् भोजन विषाक्तता हादसा - Thanks to Bill William Compton for starting it :) WhisperToMe (talk) 06:27, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Content box error[edit]

Why is the content box messed up? Did someone CSS something funny? (Of course, this is a meta issue, but it still needs mentioning.) --XndrK (talk · contribs · count) 22:28, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinates[edit]

Would it be appropriate to add the coordinates to the infobox/coord template? πr² (t • c) 02:25, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If you know them, please do add them. --ThaddeusB (talk) 15:48, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

US$3,400?[edit]

Why do you need to put "(US$3,400)" in parentheses after saying the "Bihar government promised a thorough investigation and offered INR 200,000". That's highly "Americocentric"(biased toward the US). Wikipedia is supposed to stay objective. You wouldn't put the Indian currency, or any currency, in parentheses after a sentence talking about American money. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.199.53.35 (talk) 19:49, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why shouldn't it be in Canadian dollars, the pound sterling, or euros? Or any other currency? I'll look at the MoS to see if there's anything about this. πr² (t • c) 01:25, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

According to WP:CURRENCY and WP:$, conversion to US dollars, euros, or pounds is okay (at least in the first occurrence). πr² (t • c) 01:30, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW, I think that giving some comparison is useful. I am not an American, but I found it helpful to see the dollar equivalent of the Indian rupee sum. Removing the comparitive figure would render the sum meaningless to a global readership and have the converse effect of creating an India-centric pov. Why the US dollar? I'm open to discussion, but I would suggest more people - worldwide - would be able to relate to the US$ conversion than, say, the Australian or Canadian dollar. Keri (talk) 09:11, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

India centric? It's an Indian article. It's supposed to be "India centric". Take the Detroit bankruptcy page; why don't they put "pound sterling" or "INR" conversions immediately after saying it's "estimated to be $18–20 billion". Why not make that more open to global readership? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.199.53.35 (talk) 14:23, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to take that question to the Detroit bankruptcy page. (See Wikipedia:Other stuff exists.) Keri (talk) 14:34, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"In spite of corruption involved in implementing the scheme, it aims to fight widespread poverty and improve children's school attendance and health as a large number of India's children suffer from malnutrition" This sentence makes no sense; inspite of it being corrupt, it aims at fighting child poverty?? I would suggest this

The scheme was launched in 1995 to tackle the widespread child poverty and to also improve juvenile health and attendance record. The Midday Meal Scheme is, however also embroiled with controversial cases of corruption [and add citations for gods sake, that literally the reason i made a wiki account] --LostCitrationHunter (talk) 16:08, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]