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@MaranoFan: thank you for inviting me to this discussion. Re. my thoughts, she's been referred to in reliable sources as a singer-songwriter for as long as she's been making music:
... I can go on and on with the more recent stuff . Easy to find those sources if you look it up . We don't refer to Doja Cat as a singer-songwriter because a large chunk of RS, upon which we must base all information in our article, out there do not refer to her that way. With SZA, however, that is not the case. And you would be wrong to say someone needs to provide "instrumental accompaniments" (what I assume means they have to play instruments) for someone to be a singer-songwriter; all they need to do is compose melodies and/or lyrics. Going off the sources we have for the making of "Kill Bill", for example, there is reasonable evidence to see she can write melodies and lyrics for her own music. Elias 🌊 💬 "Will you call me?" 📝 "Will you hang me out to dry?" 08:29, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@FMSky: I see you have changed almost all of the SZA-related articles such that "American singer-songwriter SZA" becomes "American singer SZA". Pointing you to this previous discussion that established there was strong sourcing enough to keep the former wording; note as well that two SZA-related articles passed FAC with this wording. Please discuss here further if you disagree. Elias 🪐 (dreaming of Saturn; talk here) 12:15, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I mainly made the changes on the basis of her songwriting credits (or lack thereof) from her album pages. She doesnt seem to have written any song on her own and only has co-writing credits. --FMSky (talk) 12:20, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's because producers are often credited as songwriters (at times they ask to be credited, even if they've never touched the lyrics). See the case of "Kill Bill" where the two producers are credited as songwriters because they made the instrumental, but SZA wrote the lyrics and melody all on her own [1]. Same thing with "Snooze" [2] (Twitter faux pas, I know, but focus on the interview clips). Elias 🪐 (dreaming of Saturn; talk here) 10:55, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Happy Editing--IAmChaos 01:25, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Note: Marked edit request as answered per above. NotAGenious (talk) 06:05, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
