Talk:National Sorry Day

Wording

The wording here is ambiguous: "remains opposed to the concept". Which concept? The idea of the day, or the idea of removing the children? There are two antithetical ways of reading this sentence. Greyscale 15:59, 26 May 2006 (UTC).

Certainly not NPOV

I've added a POV tag to this article. I'll try to re-write if I can get some time (yeah, right!) but the following passage is my main bone of contention, and is clearly not NPOV:

"In my opinion, the worst thing that has been done to aboriginal people was taking their children away from them and bringing them up in a way that the Australian government thought was right."

Justin

• I have removed much of the text added since April, including the offending paragraph. I have removed the tag as I assume it no longer breaches NPOV, if it still does please let me know. Much of the text aded belongs in the article on the Stolen Generation, not in this article which should focus on the day itself.--Golden Wattle ^talk 21:24, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Passive voice needs changing

I consulted this page to find out who started National Sorry Day, and when, and I'm puzzled by the repeated use of the passive voice, especially since the author notes that NSD is "not an official holiday." That's good to know, but if it's not an official holiday, how did it come to be? Encyclopedic style doesn't have to be passive, and active-voice with a clear subject would really enhance the information. Knorlock (talk) 15:54, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Page title?

I don't think the day was renamed permanently according to my reading of the first reference. I think it was just a temporary renaming for 2005. See also http://www.nsdc.org.au/ . --AlastairIrvine (talk) 17:41, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

There are many government websites that clearly show it has been called National Sorry Day in other years and of course the "official" site you linked agrees. Checking 2012 is easiest at this point and there are many government websites which concur, while I can't find any that show it wasn't, except for in 2005. Other examples: [1] [2] [3] [4]. Accordingly, I've moved the page back to reflect common verified usage. --Rob.au (talk) 10:20, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Orphan sentence fragment?

"The apology was the new parliament's first order of business; Kevin Rudd became the first Australian Prime Minister to publicly apologize to the Stolen Generations on behalf of the Australian federal government. Tom Calma, AO, the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander.[5]" What is the sentence fragement about Mr. Calma supposed to end with? IAmNitpicking (talk) 13:08, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

The rest of the sentence was deleted by vandalism earlier today but I've removed the whole sentence as I feel it strays too far from the topic of this article (it's about National Sorry Day not the apology). - Kollision (talk) 14:42, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

POV tag

This article lacks balance.It seems to be more about doings in parliament than the day itself. Using Mark McKenna as a source without any counter opinion is most unwise. It is not a holiday any more than National Smile Day is one. --Pete (talk) 23:32, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Fixed. The main issue is that the article's quite short – it would benefit from more sourced information. Parliament is relevant to the date btw. Demokra (talk) 07:53, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

no criticism section

for most Aboriginals, I can't see this as being seen as nothing more than a cynical ... surely, RS's have covered this in a negative light? HammerFilmFan (talk) 02:30, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, is the problem that the page is too negative or too positive? I admit that it seems too negative (maybe increasing coverage of Rudd's apology is the way to go). Surprisingly, not many publications have covered Sorry Day in-depth and I don't have access to books which may go into more detail. — VORTEX³⁴²⁷ (Talk!) 03:24, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

I just saw the title. Isn't this part enough:

Sorry Day protestors also argue that routine removal of children from Indigenous families continues under the auspices of child welfare, as Indigenous children are overrepresented in the child protection system and out-of-home care. The number of Indigenous children in out-of-home care rose from 9,070 in 2008 to about 18,900 in 2022. A national reparation scheme has not been established, although there has been monetary compensation in various states and territories. Writing for The Conversation, professor Bronwyn Carlson noted that many members of the Stolen Generations have died before being able to be compensated, and compensation is unable to be forwarded to their families.

It makes up a substantial chunk of this short article and a paragraph in the introduction is entirely dedicated to it. — VORTEX³⁴²⁷ (Talk!) 03:28, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Official status of the day

The introductory paragraph refers to this is an official day, but it’s not clear what this means? At what level is this officially recognised? I can see websites various government institutes recognising the day, but are there any sources which show recognition on a parliamentary level? Adondai (talk) 23:58, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Also called

apparently when I looked at this it said that National Sorry Day was also called National Day of Healing? but isn't that its actual name? 2601:242:4080:B030:3D07:B4A6:E796:AB86 (talk) 17:49, 16 March 2024 (UTC)