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The title was changed as there is not such court case (yet). Only an application.

The headline by the BBC "Mosley v UK"[1] should be understood in its cultural context that denotes a possibility but not a fact. Mootros (talk) 09:47, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I dispute this change in title, especially during an AfD discussion. Furthermore, the title you have changed it to is certainly not in alignment with WP:TITLE. Silver seren^C 09:49, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moves are possible during AfD. Mootros (talk) 09:51, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I never said they weren't, but it is in very bad faith to do so during an AfD, especially when it appears that consensus is to keep the article as it was. Silver seren^C 09:54, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly, because we are keeping the article by the looks of it. So the title should reflect the matter. Remember we are working with sources here in Wikipedia and that's what the sources say: i.e. an application. Mootros (talk) 10:00, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mosley_v_United_Kingdom

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Since this is now pretty indisputably a legal case known as 'Mosley v United Kingdom' (unreported; 10/05/2011) I'm moving it back. Seems pretty uncontroversial to me. Regards, Bob House 884 (talk) 20:37, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I note that you haven't done this as yet. I wouldn't just yet without a source to back it up. It isn't uncontroversial as evidenced by the above discussion. Crispmuncher (talk) 21:58, 13 May 2011 (UTC).[reply]

I'm waiting for a CSD - it was controversial when the discussion was held because using the legal case as a title seemed premature for what was, at that stage, just an application. A decision has now been given by the ECtHR which you can be found here [2] or here [3]. Admittedly a lot of newspapers aren't directly referring to the case by this name but I don't think we could call it 'Max Mosley's legal challenge' or anything like that and the current name isn't really accurate. Regards, Bob House 884 (talk) 22:10, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support Agreed that now it is a full case, a name change is appropriate. Silver seren^C 23:20, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reaction (legal rather than press)[edit]

Here are some sources:

[4] Solictor's Journal, "Through the Keyhole"
[5] Hugh Tomlinson QC, "Case Law: Mosley v United Kingdom: pre-notification rejected by Strasbourg"
[6] New Law Journal, "Mosley loses privacy battle"
[7] The Lawyer, "Media lawyers in the driving seat as Mosley crashes and burns in ECHR"
[8] Taylor Wessing LLP, "Lessons from Mosley v United Kingdom"

I paticularly like this quote, on the topic of privacy/free speech from Sarah Webb which kind of sums it up for me; “If Parliament’s really unhappy with the way the courts are interpreting the Human Rights Act, they’ll have to do something about it or else leave it to the judiciary, but don’t undermine them from the sidelines.”

Could be interesting to add some details of the legal reaction, I might if noone else does. Regards, Bob House 884 (talk) 13:01, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh also the BAILII is here [9] and supposedly Lord Neuberger has a report coming out soon which may or may not touch on this case. Bob House 884 (talk) 13:07, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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