Talk:Kong Dongmei

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by BorgQueen (talk) 13:28, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Created by Toadboy123 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:19, 23 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Kong Dongmei; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  • Comment The figure is for her and her husband, no? He seems to be the one who has/made the money. Johnbod (talk) 04:25, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment @Johnbod Some reports also state she made the money through her husband's business and also through profits from her bookstore. Toadboy123 (talk) 01:44, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      • $815 million from a bookstore - doesn't sound very likely. Also, if the bookstore was doing so well, why join the insurance company? Johnbod (talk) 03:59, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
        • I think she profited more from her work with insurance company, which is the fourth largest life insurer by premium income in China. Toadboy123 (talk) 04:09, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
          • No doubt, in which case the husband needs to worked into the hook. Plus, $815 million doesn't make you/them a $ billionaire, just a ¥ one. And it's best not to use the symbol, risking confusion with the Japanese Yen. Johnbod (talk) 04:13, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT 1... that Kong Dongmei, the granddaughter of Mao Zedong, and her husband have an estimated net worth of Renminbi 5 billion (US$815 million)? Source: Mao Zedong granddaughter on rich list, prompting debate Johnbod (talk) 04:19, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: No - A couple of concerns about the "Personal life" section. The article says "The couple had an extramarital relationship" with a wikilink to Affair. Is this true? All I can find in the cited sources is "两人苦恋15年", which sounds like there were feelings in at least one direction but not necessarily an affair. I think we need more unambiguous sourcing for this claim, especially in a BLP. The claim that Kong's three children have "come under criticism due to it being a violation of the one-child policy" doesn't seem to be supported by the cited sources either.
  • Neutral: Unknown
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Yes

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - ALT0 has problems as discussed above. ALT1 doesn't seem to be supported by the source – the hook says RMB 3 billion, but the source says RMB 5 billion.
  • Interesting: Yes

QPQ: No - Still needed
Overall: The article looks mostly good, but there are some issues that need attention. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 19:00, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Pinging @Mx. Granger and @Johnbod. I made some corrections and edits based on the suggestions you made in the review. Check if the hook is good to go for DYK. Toadboy123 (talk) 21:47, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Toadboy123: Thanks! That's a big improvement. I've made a minor copyedit to ALT1, to clarify the currency conversion and fix what I assume was a typo. ALT1 looks good to me now. All that's needed is the QPQ. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 02:04, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
QPQ done Template:Did you know nominations/Davolls General Store. Toadboy123 (talk) 9:11, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
Thanks! Good to go. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 13:59, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]