Talk:2018 Iraqi parliamentary election

Parliamentary or general election

I started this article originally at Iraqi general election, 2018, but it was moved to Iraqi parliamentary election, 2018.

"Parliamentary" is certainly more consistent with the previous naming (although I had earlier argued for a change from "legislative" to reflect the fact that the parliament does more than just pass laws). However, having thought further I now think that "general election" is a better description because:

• They aren't just electing a parliament (see France or the US); in a parliamentary system the parliament is an indirect way of electing the executive government
• No-one else calls it a "parliamentary election" - google search comes up more with general election.

This is my rationale, but I would be interested to hear any other views. AndrewRT(Talk) 17:53, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

I just moved it to ensure consistency. I'd lean slightly towards keeping it at parliamentary because otherwise we'll end up with some at different titles as Iraq had a presidential system at one stage, so it wouldn't be advisable to move the parliamentary election articles from that era to 'general election'. Number 57 18:40, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Infobox

This infobox needs to be rewritten entirely. It lists the parties, alliances and leaders from the previous election and a lot has changed since then. For example, Haider al-Abadi is now prime minister and will probably be running for another term, Al-Muwatin and the State of Law Coalition have both split in two, the newly-created Mujahideen Alliance is considered to be one of the frontrunners, Barham Salih is no longer with the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, the Gorran Movement is now part of the Coalition for Democracy and Justice (which needs an article by the way) and Nawshirwan Mustafa is dead! Charles Essie (talk) 21:57, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

==IHEC ;

Yes, agreed! 146.198.191.12 (talk) 22:22, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

The lists have just been announced, so I have been trying to unpick the details. My initial idea is the following for the infobox:

1. Haider al Abadi - Victory (~50)
2. Nouri al-Maliki - Dawa (~50)
3. ?? - KDP/PUK (~46) (are they running together?)
4. Ayad Allawi - Arabyiya (~35)
5. Muqtada al Sadr - Sadr Front (~34)
6. Ammar al-Hakim - al-Hikma (~25)
7. Osama al-Nujaifi - Muttahidoon (~18)
8. Barham Salih - Neshtiman (~16)
9. Hadi al-Ameri - al Fatih (~10??)

(edited) AndrewRT(Talk) 16:05, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Done. Think this six is a good balance between having too many small parties and not reflecting the diversity of the contest. Very hard to do objectively! Please comment if you have any suggestions!AndrewRT(Talk) 22:43, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

It might be an idea to use {{Infobox legislative election}} as Iraq has a proportional system with many parties winning seats, and it allows many more parties to be fitted in in a much smaller space. Previous elections could also be converted to using it. Number 57 23:07, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Alliances

Many of the articles for the participating alliances and parties are horribly out of date (Al-Arabiya Coalition, Al-Wataniya, Islamic Dawa Party, Muttahidoon, Sadrist Movement, State of Law Coalition, ect.) and don’t know were I can find up-to-date information. Can anyone help me with this? Charles Essie (talk) 20:43, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

By the way, I would like to thank everyone who created the articles for the new alliances and parties that are participating in this election and everyone who helped with the infobox. Charles Essie (talk) 20:46, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

I'm a little bit unsure about the best way to proceed with this - would appreciate your thoughts. Many of these "coalitions" only tend to exist for a very short period of time associated with one, or maybe two elections. Does Abadi's coalition, the "Victory of Iraq", really have any existence except as a vehicle for him? Is Arabiya, Allawi's coalition, actually the same coalition as the one at the last election that was also called Arabiya? In which case, should we update the above articles to reflect the developments in later elections, or just tidy them up and leave them referencing just their own particular moment? AndrewRT(Talk) 21:36, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

PS - my pleasure for the ones I've created. I find Iraqi politics a fascinating stusy and writing Wikipedia articles helps my understanding no end! AndrewRT(Talk) 21:36, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

I have no idea what the deal is with the Victory Alliance. I was thinking we could transform Al-Arabiya Coalition into an article about both the old and new alliances. The other articles need updates on information of their current status (like current member parties in the case of the coalitions). Charles Essie (talk) 23:18, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Okay, now it says the alliance of the Al-Arabiya Coalition, Al-Wataniya and the Iraqi Islamic Party will be called “Al-Wataniya”. I don’t what should be done now. Charles Essie (talk) 19:43, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Total seats don't add up correctly

I added together the total seats in the results section of the article, but they only add up to 311 (instead of the total of 329). Are some reserved seats missing from the table? David O. Johnson (talk) 04:22, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

I've just looked at the final list of winners on the IHEC website and will be adding that. However, the number of seats is 330 not 329. Does anyone know where the 329 figure is from and why the number of seats awarded is 330? Cheers, Number 57 15:08, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

OK, I've worked it out; there were 13 people listed in Salahaddin, but only 12 were elected. Number 57 15:15, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. David O. Johnson (talk) 20:55, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

If any one have any pictures for this article Kurdistantolive (talk) 23:15, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

IHEC links

All the links to the Iraq Election Commission seem to be blocked. Does anyone know how to access them?

Government formation

The new parliamentary session will be held tomorrow and in the latest coalition building news, Abadi & Sadr have assembled a coalition just short of a majority:

http://www.kurdistan24.net/en/news/747b0359-e231-4e5b-9b03-03b9a4cc0580

"Principal signatories of the bloc are Sairoon with 54 MPs, al-Nasr Coalition with 42 MPs, Ayad Allawi’s al-Wataniya Coalition with 21 MPs, Ammar al-Hakim’s al-Hikma Coalition with 19 MPs, Usama al-Nujaifi’s Iraqi Qarar (Decision) with 16 MPs. The other signatories included six MPs from Anbar Our Identity, three each from Baghdad Coalition, Nineveh Our Identity Coalition, and Turkmen Front, two MPs each from Abiroun and Bayariq al-Khair, one MP from Salahudin Our Identity Coalition, and three MPs from the other components."

• Sairoon/Alliance Towards Reforms/Sadr - 54
• Nasr/Victory/Abadi - 42
• Wataniya/National/Allawi - 21
• Hikma/Wisdom/Hakim - 19
• Qarar/Decision/Nujaifi - 16 (in article as 14)
• Hal/Anbar+Nineva+Salahuddin Identity/Karbouli - 10
• Baghdad/Mashaddani - 3
• Turkomen Front - 3

Main elements that are not in this coalition:

• Fatah/Amiri - 47 & State of Law/Maliki - 25

• Kurds (both ruling KDP/PUK - 43 and opposition Gorran/NewGen/KIG/KIU - 13)

I'll try to incorporate these details into the narrative in due course but placing it here for the interim. AndrewRT(Talk) 21:17, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Al-Qarar al-Iraqi Alliance

So I have seen several reports from Iraq that claim that Osama al-Nujaifi electoral alliance was named Al-Qarar al-Iraqi Alliane and that Mutahidoon was a part of it rather than the alliance itself. The al-Qarar Al-Iraqi Alliance (Link) was led by Osama al-Nujaifi and his brother, Atheel, and formed an allaince with prominent Sunni businessman Khamis Khanjar's party, the Arab Project. The goup only contested elections in areas that had significant Sunni popultaoins like the Anbar, Salahdin, and Nineveh. I believe that the page needs to reflect the relevance of this group because, after the election, they made significant power plays by forming an alliance with many former Iraqi politicians to create the 'National Axis Allaince' and even started to form a coalition (paywall) with its rival Sunni alliance, the Wataniya alliance. The reason I bring all of this up is because I think that we would have to update and create a number of pages before we added them; just as an example, there are no pages for this alliance nor for Khamis Khanjar. I hope to get some help with this since I edit irregularly.Somenolife (talk) 18:00, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Odd choice for Saairun color

I noticed that the color used for Saairun in the infobox was turquoise. While that is one of the colors used to identify the coalition, the map below displaying the parliamentary election results uses the Dark Cyan color to identify Saairun, rather than turquoise, which confused me and likely others. Is there a reason for such a choice in color? SharperHarper (talk) 00:14, 6 January 2020 (UTC)