Talk:2021–2022 Madagascar famine

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Did you know... that during the 2021 food crisis in southern Madagascar, people have resorted to eating things such as raw red cactus fruits, wild leaves, locusts, ashes mixed with tamarind, and shoe leather?

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On 11 November 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from 2021 Madagascar food crisis to 2021 Madagascar famine. The result of the discussion was moved.

Did you know nomination[edit]

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The result was: promoted by MeegsC (talk) 10:15, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that during the 2021 Madagascar food crisis in southern Madagascar, people have resorted to eating things such as raw red cactus fruits, wild leaves, locusts, ashes mixed with tamarind and shoe leather? Source: Families have been living on raw red cactus fruits, wild leaves and locusts for months now. and People in Madagascar have been eating ash mixed with tamarind

Reviewed: Hugo Torres Jiménez
Comment: Recent June 2021 famine

Created by CoryGlee (talk). Self-nominated at 18:35, 1 July 2021 (UTC).[reply]

A well written article on a recent tragedy; African topics often get overlooked, so this is a good fit for DYK, IMHO. The article is well referenced, new, and long enough. The hook is certainly interesting, and in-line referenced. No copyvio, QPQ is done. This is good to go. Applodion (talk) 21:32, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

CoryGlee, I removed the first "Madagascar" from your hook (though obviously still linked to the article) to avoid the repetition of the word, i.e. "... that during the 2021 food crisis in southern Madagascar, people have resorted to eating things such as raw red cactus fruits, wild leaves, locusts, ashes mixed with tamarind and shoe leather?" Please let me know if that isn't okay for you. MeegsC (talk) 10:15, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

MeegsC totally OK for my friend, not a single problem :-) CoryGlee (talk) 11:21, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Should this article's name be changed to famine?[edit]

Hi!. Many sources are now calling it a famine, and French-language sources have been calling it a famine since long ago. Opinions? CoryGlee (talk) 19:19, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is best done by creating a Template:Requested move. I've done this for you below. Feel free to change the why= line. If you could add a few links below showing media using the new name, that would be helpful. LongHairedFop (talk) 16:51, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Famine" is a technical specification when a crisis reaches IPC Phase 5. For a famine to be declared, 20 percent of households needs to be facing an extreme lack of food, 30 percent of children are suffering from acute malnutrition and 2 people for every 10,000 are dying a day from malnutrition or related conditions. This is not to minimise how serious the situation was in Madagascar but no famine was ever declared by the IPC platform, which is the only body qualified to declare a famine on the basis of internationally recognised scientific standards.

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1) https://reliefweb.int/report/world/ipc-famine-factsheet-updated-december-2020#:~:text=The%20Integrated%20Food%20Security%20Phase,or%20will%20likely%20be%20evident.

2) https://www.ipcinfo.org/ipcinfo-website/ipc-overview-and-classification-system/en/ Raphaeldunvant (talk) 08:00, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 11 November 2021[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Discussion had lasted for more than three weeks, seeing no opposition i have moved the article (closed by non-admin page mover) Megan B.... ^{It’s all coming to me} till the end of time 10:49, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2021 Madagascar food crisis → 2021 Madagascar famine – Media calling the Madagascar food crisis a famine LongHairedFop (talk) 16:51, 11 November 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Natg 19 (talk) 08:52, 19 November 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. VR _talk 21:53, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks LongHairedFop.

I've wondered for long: Media calling it famine:

Voice of America and since long ago, the French website Media Part

Perhaps, only two outlets as the rest rely on "edging famine". Anyway, the discussion is worth. Thanks all. CoryGlee (talk) 20:40, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Ongoing in 2023[edit]

Can someone update the title? Rileystewart (talk) 00:52, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]