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Overall this article seems to discuss the subject matter in an appropriate and correct manner. Everything seems to be true, but no sources are cited, which is why I posted the {{unreferenced|date=August 2006}} template on the article. I have not added the OR template as such does not seem to be the case here. Regards, Signature ^brendel 07:34, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Which towns?

There is a problem with the list of towns. Certainly Ansonia is not part of the "Gold Coast." Is there a source? Otherwise we should pare this down to the affluent towns using census data. Jd2718 23:07, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Before you do that, you'd need to define affluent. Is a family of four living on $120,000 a year affluent? Is a single living on $70,000 a year affluent? Affluence is a vague concept and any article implying a rigid definition of affluence will be inhereitly be POV. Sure we could all agree that some towns with median household incomes in the $200,000s are affluent, but where do you draw the line. Which town is wealthier, a town were the average household has 1.2 members and the median household income is $68,000 or a town that has an average household size of 3.6 with a median household income of $110,000? I think you see the problem. Regards, Signature ^brendelHAPPY HOLIDAYS 00:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure about this one either. Try to see what the most common usage is. I see four possible definitions: (1) the Stamford Labor Market Area; (2) the area governed by the South Western Regional Council; (3) the U.S. Census Bridgeport-Stamford NECTA; and (4) the Southwest Service Delivery Area (1) and (2) are roughly the same while (3) and (4) are more inclusive and adds the Bridgeport area. My leaning is towards the more restrictive (1) or (2). --Polaron | Talk 00:17, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Polaron's solution would be fine, if the article were called greater Stamford, or Southwest Connecticut, or something else. Perhaps the title should change? But with the name Gold Coast, it should run Greenwich through Fairfield, plus New Canaan, Redding, Weston, Easton, and Wilton. Jd2718 00:30, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The important thing to remember is that you have to choose an existing metro area as designated by the Census Bureau or another authorative source, you can't decide for yourselves what towns are wealthy enough to be part of the Gold Coast as that would be WP:OR. Best Regards, Signature ^brendelHAPPY HOLIDAYS 01:00, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that "Gold Coast" is not a Census Bureau defined region, nor is it a State of Connecticut defined region. This article has no sources. The problem is not mine, it is the article's, and ours collectively.

Gold Coast is a popular designation for a region; it does not have a clearly-defined extent. However, the current article contradicts popular usage; it is not possible that Ansonia belongs in an article on the Gold Coast of Connecticut. The title could be changed, or the towns could be changed, but to knowingly leave wrong information in an article does not make sense - it makes us look foolish. Jd2718 01:12, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This seems like a reasonable source (see page 2 of the pdf). However, a search for "gold coast" on the state website does seem to include at least Redding and Easton in some instances. --Polaron | Talk 01:18, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bravo Polaron. The article can indicate 'sometimes Redding and Easton' Jd2718 01:22, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"The problem is that "Gold Coast" is not a Census Bureau defined region... knowingly leave wrong information in an article does not make sense - it makes us look foolish." - ture. It's like Silicon Valley, there are no set boundaries; thus, one needs to be careful in one's appraoch. This is where WP policy should guide us. Now, thanks to Polaron there's a source and that's exactely what this article needs: Sources. While different sources may offer different boundaries, we need to take all of them, depending on their authority, into account. If our sources tell us that "sometimes Redding and Easton" are counted, than that's what we need to tell our readers-I think we can agree on that. Regards, Signature ^brendelHAPPY HOLIDAYS 02:51, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've added an Alternative Definiton with citations, as some define the area as all of the coastal towns in the county. Markvs88 (talk) 23:10, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Food for thought.

The idea of a 'Gold Coast' is a real estate marketing tool at best. If we are going to base the area on 'The Stamford Market Labor Area" perhaps we should consider actual current commuting patterns: http://www.cerc.com/fairfield.html . I only say this because if we rely on government data we find that Connecticut is not even mentioned in reference to the New York Metro area, but that places in Pennsylvania are. I think this is a good example of how government definitions rarely fall in line with popular, or even common, knowledge (Your tax dollars at work).

Just to reinforce what I am stating, take for example a simple search of the internet. Gold Coast Connecticut is more likely to show up in tourist publications, or the NY times real estate section, than in economic digests: http://www.bestofgoldcoastct.com/index2.html etc

Basically, we should be careful to rely completely on a black and white definition put forth by economists, when economics isn't a black and white science.

Food for thought... and thanks for reading. EdC1 01:46, 4 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

This isn't entirely accurate, as there is more than one Census Bureau definition of the "New York Metro area." The Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA) includes Pike County, PA, but no part of CT. The Combined Statistical Area includes the entire MSA and numerous other counties, three of which are in CT: Fairfield, Litchfield, and New Haven. The presence of a Metro North commuter rail line in southwestern CT further reinforces its status as part of the New York metro region. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.247.133.98 (talk) 00:52, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Reason for reversal of move

The reason why I moved this page from Western Connecticut to Gold Coast (Connecticut) is because both areas are similar in scope and area. If someone wants to create a proper Western Connecticut including Litchfield County, I'm happy to help out. —JJ B^e ^rs 20:19, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I support this concept, and not just because I wasn't even aware of the Western Connecticut article. Markvs88 (talk) 01:34, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There is already an article for the Litchfield County Region (Northwest Hills (Connecticut)), and Western Connecticut is a region outlined by the CT Council of Governments (most of Litchfield County is not part of the Western CT region according to this council). Creating a second Western CT page would be redundant, since most of the Gold Coast is located in the Western CT Region.--AirportExpert (talk) 20:27, 13 October 2018 (UTC)AirportExpert[reply]