Talk:Wall of death (moshing)

This article was nominated for deletion on 14 August 2008. The result of the discussion was Merge.

Cat Power

Maybe I missed something, but why is there a link to the Cat Power article at the bottom of this article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.251.27.195 (talk) 23:42, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alphabetized the list in the 'Bands known to have done Walls of Death' section. --Rai 10:20, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

entry is biased

Excuse me for saying so, but I think this entry is biased towards a single meaning of the phrase. "Wall of Death" is a relatively obscure phrase that should be explained in an objective way.

The "mosh pit" wall of death is not the most widely known referent of the phrase. It is certainly not the oldest meaning of the phrase. A simple Google search shows that the motorcycle stunt is much older, and is probably the best known (but not only) referent of the term. I couldn't say how the events compare in their frequency of execution, but "moshing" in any form is certainly not as common or popular as it was for a brief time in the eighties.

Granted, the motorcycle stunt is mentioned in this article, but only as a minor side-note. The relative weight given the two phenomena is very imbalanced. I'm not trying to say that the articel needs to be replaced or completely re-written. I wouldn't have any objection if the article included an introductory comment that explains that the "mosh pit" phenomenon is only ONE of several interesting meanings of the phrase.

Finally, if I recall correctly from my reading of Richard Thompson's biography, his song "Wall of Death" does refer to a motorcycle stunt, not to the "fairyground ride ... generally known as the Gravitron". I could be wrong about this, but it is easily checked. ReedRich4 00:34, 25 August 2006 (UTC)ReedRich4[reply]

frequency / Coldplay?

On the subject of how common moshing is now, I was just born in the 80's, but I can tell you that it happens at just about every heavy music concert in the present time.

But really... has Coldplay really done a Wall of Death? Seriously? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.225.88.215 (talk) 03:41, 23 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Look Moshing today isnt what it used to be or what it truely is. In the 80's it didnt involve beating the shit out of eachother. But I guess thats what passes for moshing today *Sighs* 69.122.139.132 18:57, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My recent improvements

I copy edited the text, improved the structure and order, tightened up the wording and deleted uncited claims, such as the list of bands who supposedly have been involved with the wall of death. Those claims should not be re-added unless you provide reliable sources showing that it is true. Otherwise, anyone can just add a random band for no reason. I also removed the info about the motorcycle stunt because there is already a link to the article about that topic, and this article is only about the mosh-related wall of death. This article is already a decent length, and there is no need to re-add unproven claims and excessive wordiness in order to make in longer. Spylab 11:49, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Funny, but true?

"There have even been sightings of two or more fans attempting to build an actual wall in the middle of the venue, using bricks and mortar they had snuck inside."

As hilarious as it sounds, could this really have happened?

DragonForce

The bit saying "the event has now become an ongoing event at subseqent shows durung the songs performance." after the May 2007 performance in Sydney seems wrong. I saw DragonForce in Sheffield last november and they did it then, so the Sydney show didn't start it all off.

Ooof

This is a few thousand overly pretentious words, used to describe people linking arms and running into each other. Are you people from Mars?

Suicide Machines

I saw The Suicide Machines use this at the Warped Tour in 2003 in Orlando. Not sure if it was a one time thing or not. Just thought I'd let you guys know if you wanted to add it in. DX927 06:16, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

unnecesary examples

are we gonna put every band thats uses the wall of death? I saw Suicidal Tendencies with municipal waste and black president, municipal waste pulled it off, are we gonna put that here?--Kolia. (talk) 18:25, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

From what I've experience Lamb of God & Caliban are probably most notable for bands that use the wall of death. I believe it is mentioned in the Lamb of God Article in relation to their song Black Label. There are videos all over youtube from Caliban's performances at Wacken where they have a wall of death. 65.102.163.244 (talk) 04:20, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Worst Page On Wikipedia Not Involving Wikimedia Foundation Scandals

seriously people, is there a worse page? are you going to list every single instance of the audience moshing at a show, put on by a metal band, in the history of mankind? I saw some girls get pretty rowdy at a Cat Power show, I should put that Cat Power link back in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kipmacy (talk • contribs) 04:12, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We shouldn't. Will edit TheSun (talk) 02:58, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]