Talk:U.S. Route 44 in New York

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U.S. Route 44 in New York was one of the Engineering and technology good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
June 25, 2008	Good article nominee	Listed
February 12, 2009	Featured topic candidate	Promoted
June 17, 2009	Featured topic removal candidate	Demoted

Current status: Delisted good article

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GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:U.S. Route 44 in New York/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

GA review (see here for criteria)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
see broadness to include AADT from citations in article.
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars etc.:
history and discussion pages show no evidence of problems with article content or format
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Prose[edit]

Please see if anything can be expanded upon as per WP:WIAFA critera.
Its entire 65.98-mile (106.18 km) length is maintained by the New York State Department of Transportation, beginning at U.S. Route 209 and New York State Route 55 in the hamlet of Kerhonkson to the Connecticut state line near the village of Millerton. Reword this sentence please.

Done

Most of route in Dutchess County was once part of the Dutchess Turnpike, an early road interconnecting Poughkeepsie to various settlements in Dutchess County. US 44 was designated in 1935 and remained mostly unchanged until June 2007, when it was relocated onto a bypass of the village of Millbrook. Is most and mostly needed for this prose?

Done

US 44, however, joins Main Street to the northeast along what becomes the Dutchess Turnpike. West of the interchange, state maintenance continues along Main Street (designated Reference Route 983W, an unsigned reference route) for an additional 0.19 miles (0.31 km) to County Route 38 (Fairmont Avenue).[4] Past CR 38, Main Street becomes County Route 114. Is this a reference to current ongoing maintenance, which may date the article whence the maintenance is completed. Is there a reference for this fact?

Not done - That is not what it means. That means it is maintained by the state and that all road-related work on it is done by the state.

Thanks. Is the entire route maintained in this fashion?

Yes, and that has already been mentioned in the article.^Mitch 32 ^contribs 12:32, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Broadness[edit]

The Mid Hudson Bridge is mentioned in passing, and has its own article on wikipedia. There are WWW links which relate the bridge to highway traffic and the need to redesign the bridge from 2 to 3 lanes. Mid-Hudson Bridge (US 44 and NY 55)

Done

There should be an external link or inline citation to the WWW site Interchange of the Week-#1 which shows the picture of this particular trumpet interchange used in this instance.

Done

Mention should be made of the highway passing through Minnewaska state park. This featured highway article M-35 (Michigan highway) gives a brief blurb of The Heritage Route / parks which was an important consideration for the tourism that the Michigan Department of Transportation (MDOT) mentioned it in its press releases.

Done

Should the WWW article New York Road Map Travel Guide: United States #44 be external linked?
Article should consider adding a section on design (The engineering portion considered by Department of highways and / or County Planning Commissions), impact between economy/culture and the highway, as well as effects of highway when references can be found ie Kansas Turnpike and M62 motorway, weight class and vehicle type and traveler types along highway. It would be good to know if it is 2 lane highway along the route as the pictures seem to indicate, at least until the bridge which is 3 lane, and the section of the article which states it is split into 2 one lane roads (is this equivalent to a Dual carriageway).

This WWW site gives town, county, DOT owned mileages of road sections per county NYSDOT 2006 Highway Mileage Summary

This WWW gives a different view of AADT than the one cited Local Highway Traffic Count Information This [WWW] gives the county number, count locations, what they count, [vehicle classification 3 axle, motorcycle, etc] that are counted at the stations, in this region (8) there are no stations I can see on 44 [[1]] I am reading through the publications to see if any address highway material type, highway classification, arterial, primary arterial, etc.

The map would be an excellent addition!!!

Not done - Not necessary to become that detailed, not everything you listed is going to be mentioned.

Replied. Most of them are done.^Mitch 32 ^contribs 02:35, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Overall[edit]

Overall: on hold

This is a nice piece of work, but it still has some shortcomings with respect to the good article criteria.

Please address these matters soon and then leave a note here showing how they have been resolved. After 48 hours the article should be reviewed again. If these issues are not addressed within 7 days, the article may be failed without further notice. Thank you for your work so far.

Good luck improving the article SriMesh | talk 02:18, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of State Routes in New York[edit]

Should this route be listed in the list?SriMesh | talk 04:07, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is a U.S. Route, which has its separate list.Mitch32^(UP) 17:59, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]