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Section size for Transgender history (65 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	4,042	4,042
Historiography	4,732	4,732
Africa	49	16,041
Ancient Egypt	1,426	1,426
North Africa	1,933	1,933
West Africa	1,297	1,297
East Africa	5,983	5,983
Southern Africa	24	5,353
Traditional Bantu third genders	1,612	1,612
Botswana	1,485	1,485
South Africa	2,232	2,232
Americas	16	62,558
North America	22	46,484
Early history	6,242	6,242
Canada	7,472	7,472
Haiti	4,547	4,547
Mexico	5,648	5,648
United States	22,553	22,553
South America	23	16,058
Argentina	246	246
Bolivia	557	557
Brazil	5,986	5,986
Chile	5,181	5,181
Colombia	954	954
Peru	1,554	1,554
Uruguay	1,557	1,557
Asia	11	32,598
West Asia (the Middle East)	156	7,954
Arabian peninsula	1,624	1,624
Iran	2,259	2,259
Israel and Palestine	2,756	2,756
Ottoman Empire	1,159	1,159
East Asia	18	8,154
China	5,025	5,025
Japan	3,111	3,111
South and Southeast Asia	33	16,479
Cambodia	487	487
Indian subcontinent	6,807	6,807
Indonesia	2,382	2,382
Philippines	2,718	2,718
Thailand	4,052	4,052
Europe	13	65,595
Earliest history	3,349	3,349
Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome, and Byzantium	9,306	9,306
Early Scandinavia, Viking-era Norse	2,913	2,913
Middle Ages	8,730	14,858
Medieval Christian church	6,128	6,128
Balkans	2,145	2,145
Belgium	988	988
Denmark	2,824	2,824
France	4,906	4,906
Germany	7,173	7,173
Italy	2,405	2,405
Russia	1,971	2,331
Itelmens of Siberia	360	360
Soviet Union	5,041	5,041
Spain	2,409	2,409
Turkey	1,140	1,140
United Kingdom	3,794	3,794
Oceania	14	5,903
Australia	1,242	1,242
New Zealand, the Cook Islands, Niue	1,518	1,518
Samoa, Tonga, Fiji and Tahiti	3,129	3,129
See also	503	503
References	745	745
Total	192,717	192,717

Attribution[edit]

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The original version of the article was created for the most part by taking portions of text from LGBT history and creating an article structure with headings somewhat mimicking that article where appropriate. For the section on #United States of America, information was mostly summarized and occasionally copied from History of transgender people in the United States. Other than that, short portions were copied or paraphrased from these articles:

from Hijra (South Asia) (version 725677002) for the section on ancient Asia.
from Magnus Hirschfeld (724927442)for the title of his 1910 book in the Germany section.
from Chevalier d'Eon (723122921) for the section on France.
from Transgender in China (723673135) for the section on China.
from Gender identities in Thailand (708833883) for the section on Thailand.

Mathglot (talk) 02:18, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Assyria implausible claim[edit]

The article reads In ancient Assyria, transgender sex workers took part in public processions, singing, dancing, wearing costumes and sometimes women's clothes, and carrying feminine symbols, and even at times performing the act of giving birth. An IP removed the birth part, which is uncited, and @Youknowwhoistheman restored it. Why? It seems like vandalism. ꧁Zanahary⁠꧂ 13:52, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ahhh, actually i thought there was a vandalism, that's why i restored the version. Sorry for inconvenience. this is genuine mistake! Youknowwhoistheman (talk) 13:56, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's alright! I'll rewrite it pending input from Mathglot. ꧁Zanahary⁠꧂ 13:58, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @Zanahary, cheers and happy editing! Youknowwhoistheman (talk) 13:59, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I've removed it, since I can't find any source. But if anyone can produce one, please add the content! ꧁Zanahary⁠꧂ 14:01, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mathglot It looks like you wrote this originally, before an IP in 2017 changed "pretending to give birth" to "performing the act of giving birth". Is this accurate? If so, do you have a source to cite (and from which we can rewrite this prose so it doesn't suggest that ancient Assyrian transgender sex workers gave birth)? ꧁Zanahary⁠꧂ 13:56, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I accept my mistake! there was a genuine mistake. Youknowwhoistheman (talk) 13:58, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's okay, now I'm just asking the apparent original author of that section if they know the source from which they got that information. ꧁Zanahary⁠꧂ 14:03, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]