Talk:The Pegasus Project

Best ep since Camelot!

No offence but last week's ep really was sub-par for SG-1, the season premier was good but not as good as it could have been. Very well done episode. But why weren't Ronon and Teyla in the episode? I know the reason was because they weren't needed for the mission but I'm talking copyright-wise, was there a reason pertaining to that sort of thing? I mean, if they weren't going to be on the mission or related to it or anything, there should have been at least a "Hi Ronon/Teyla" thing by someone from SG-1. --Faris b 06:42, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

No, there was no copyright issue; after all, Sheppard and Zelenka both made their first appearances in this episode, so Ronon and Teyla could have crossed over as well. I think the main reason that they did not was money; they already had three Atlantis regulars, plus Colonel Emerson, Morgan le Fay, Zelenka, Walter, and the Atlantis version of Walter in the episode. That has to get expensive. Finally, this episode was probably shot at the same time as Sateda, which looks to be a very Ronon-heavy episode, and it would have been a very tough shooting schedule if he were to appear in SG-1 as well. --DiegoTehMexican 14:02, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Farscape Reference

While fighting off the Wraith, Mitchell suggested using a "slingshot maneuver." This is no doubt a reference to the specialty of Farscape's Commander John Crichton, another Ben Browder character. Since it's not mentioned on the Farscape page, I'll just add that it was during a slingshot maneuver in the Farscape module that Crichton got sucked into a wormhole and transported across the galaxy. He also employed the maneuver a couple more times over the course of the series to escape from enemy ships. 66.167.197.202 19:40, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I very much doubt that it's a reference to Farscape. Slingshot maneuvers have been used in Star Trek as well, though they're usually for time travel, and the term would be appropriate for any such acceleration move with a star or black hole. -- DiegoTehMexican 19:48, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Lol, I knew someone would say that. Yes, it's an existing maneuver that's used in real life etc., etc., etc. I believe it's a reference for the following reasons:

1. Watch the first episode of Farscape if you haven't seen it. It was a central part of the plot, it saved the day, and was suggested and planned out by Ben Browder's character (though it was executed by Claudia Black's).
2. It was Ben Browder's character that suggested it here. Any other character could've suggested it.
3. The staff have obviously seen Farscape and would be aware of the connection, and if not, then Ben and Claudia would've still known.
4. I don't remember a slingshot maneuver having been used in SG, even though they've had dozens of space battles near gravity wells where it could've come into play. If you can think of an instance, feel free to correct me.

So, I doubt the chances of the writers having Ben Browder's character suggest a slingshot maneuver and not realizing the connection. Granted, it was a sly reference and didn't take up much air time or distract from the story at all. So, maybe they wanted to use a slingshot to begin with, and someone said "Hey, we should have Ben suggest it." In any case, I busted up laughing when he said that. 66.167.197.202 21:36, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

As a counterpoint, while Stargate does often reference outside sci-fi, there's just no way to know if they were actually referencing Farscape here. If it were some complex maneuver, or one of Crichton's well-known moves, instead of a fancy term for a gravity assist, I'd probably agree with you. However, unless they come out and say it, this is one of those references that can't be proven either way. -- DiegoTehMexican 21:43, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I can't argue that there's a way to prove it without someone from the staff coming out and saying it. But that goes for any reference. It can't be proven that the "tortoise in the desert" quote from last episode was a reference to Blade Runner, but nobody is arguing with that. Seriously though, have you seen Farscape? If you had, there'd be no question. They act like he invented the maneuver. 66.167.197.202 22:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I have indeed seen Farscape, and no, I didn't make that connection. -- DiegoTehMexican 23:55, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Instead of stating it's an explicit reference, we could mention it as a coincidence. --Bark 19:45, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Intergalactic Wormholes?

Can it be reasonably assumed that the black hole is the entire reason an Earth gate was able to establish an intergalactic wormhole? After all, in the Atlantis episode, Home, McKay has to bring a special crytal from the Atlantis gate to establish a wormhole back to Earth. This is done because there is enough of an energy souce on the planet, but only the Atlantis gate was capable of dialing Earth because of the extra crystal. Maybe the intergalactic wormhole restrictions only apply to Pegasus gates (blue chevrons)? If so, it might be interesting to hint at the implications if the gate orbiting the black hole is ever shut down or recovered.

How about the possibility of the Wraith using the wormhole to get to the Milky Way, eh?  :-) --Bark 19:49, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

No, they said the control crystal in IN THE DHD NOT the GATE so being that they remote dialed it from the ship's computer, it's easy for them to copy the SGC dialing program into the Odyssey's computers and use it to dial the gate, since the SGC dialing computer has the proper programming to replicate the DHD control crystal for intergalactic travel. Thus, the gate has no bearing on intergalactic travel but rather the method used for dialing.

They could have used a Pegasus gate but that would meant an extra trip to pick up a gate so they just got an unused one from the Milky Way to save time.

--Faris b 15:50, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. I loved the episode, but that continued to bug me. And I knew the crystal goes in the DHD. I guess I just wasn't terribly clear. Thanks again!

Continuity Error

I'm not sure but if i remember correctly, gate chevrons refer to star constellations: A set of 7 chevrons attaches to a planet (which over time the gate system compensates for). A set of 8 chevrons connects to a planet in another galaxy.

So if that's correct, space gates can only work when in orbit of a respective planet. So mckay's plan of gathering multiple gates and then using them to act as a bridge, to shorten the time between Pegasus and the Milky Way, won't work because there's no planets? Fusionblue 20:24, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

No reason why it cant if theyve done there research. Matthew Fenton (contribs) 20:27, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

The 6 chevrons refer to a point in space, it doesn't matter if there is a planet there or not. So with a space gate the 6 symbols point to spot X, if there is a gate at spot X then that gate will open whether it is on a planet, orbiting a planet or floating in space. Konman72 08:20, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Should be Changed?

the following should be changed:

This is the first time for Joe Flanigan (Lt. Col. John Sheppard) and David Nykl (Radek Zelenka) to guest star on the series, but not for David Hewlett (Rodney McKay) and Torri Higginson (Dr. Elizabeth Weir). Dr. McKay was previously in 48 Hours, Redemption, and (as an alternate version) Moebius, and Dr. Weir was previously in Lost City (played by Jessica Steen), and New Order.

to this: This is the first time for Lt. Col. John Sheppard(Joe Flanigan) and Radek Zelenka (David Nykl) to guest star on the series, but not for Rodney McKay(David Hewlett)and Dr. Elizabeth Weir (Torri Higginson). Dr. McKay was previously in 48 Hours, Redemption, and (as an alternate version) Moebius, and Dr. Weir was previously in Lost City (played by Jessica Steen), and New Order.

because as pointed out Dr. Weir was played by two actresses so the role they played is the "crossover" person, or just delete the other actress' name.

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