Talk:The Boat Race 2004

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Did you know... that Cambridge won the 2004 University Boat Race by six lengths after Oxford's bowman was unseated following a clash of blades?

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: SchroCat (talk · contribs) 08:39, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'll pick this one up: I should be able to go through it fully within the next day or two. - SchroCat (talk) 08:39, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nicely put together. I've flicked over some of the other GA boat race articles to see how this compares (very well, obviously). Close to GA as it stands, but a few points, questions and queries to mull over.

Overall

Possibly add an image of the race (or course) to add a little colour to the article? Adding an image of the course would stop people clicking away from the article to see it.
- Added both, as suggested. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:30, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at the 2012 article, there seems to be more info about the women's and reserves races. Is there a reason why there isn't a similar amount here?
- I guess the only reason is lack of access to pertinent information. The 2012 race background was still heavily covered by sources to which I have access, while the 2004 one is ancient history. Could you suggest any sources I might use to expand these two a little? The Rambling Man (talk) 06:30, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Background

Was there a considered favourite for the race, or was it mixed/too close to call?
- Added that. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:36, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

Any chance we could expand the lead just a little? It looks a bit slim at the moment. Maybe mentioning the sponsor (and possibly it being their last year)
- Expanded a little. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:56, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Should it be Women's or women's?
- Should be capitalised I believe... Will ensure consistency. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:36, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Crews

Should you add a line about the respective weights of the crews?
- Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:36, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

References

Any reason why you've linked The D. Tel (FN 1), but not The Observer (FN 7)? (Poss also worth linking BBC Sport too?
- All linked now I believe. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:30, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Minor fare, really, and no deal-breakers there, but worth thinking around, even if you don't pick up on any of the suggestions. – SchroCat (talk) 11:14, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comments, sorry I didn't get to them sooner, for some reason I didn't receive any notification that the nomination was on hold, and I missed the update to this page on my watchlist. I've responded inline to each of your comments. Cheers, The Rambling Man (talk) 06:57, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, sorry about that - my fault: I forgot to ping you on the hold. All good now, and the article is strong enough to pass GA. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 07:09, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Is it reasonably well written?
A. Prose quality: Y

B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists: Y
Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
A. References to sources: Y

B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary: Y

C. No original research: Y
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. Major aspects: Y

B. Focused: Y
Is it neutral?
Fair representation without bias: Y
Is it stable?
No edit wars, etc: Y
Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content: Y

B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions: Y
Overall:
Pass or Fail: All good: I am happy to ✓ Pass - SchroCat (talk) 07:09, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]