Talk:Soony Saad

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Review: December 10, 2022. (Reviewed version).

A fact from Soony Saad appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 15 January 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Soony Saad (pictured) scored on his Major League Soccer debut on his 19th birthday?

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Soony Saad with an young Ansar Fan in Beirut (crop).jpg

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Kosack (talk · contribs) 13:11, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take this one on. Four months is far too long to be waiting and it should be pretty straightforward. I'll get a review up asap. Kosack (talk) 13:11, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Initial review

Infobox and lead

• Is Ref 1 (Global Sports Archive) a reliable source? I only ask as it's not a site I'm familiar with.

It's powered by Data Sports Group, who also provide data to the Grenada Football Association and have just entered into a new partnership with Lottery.com (source). Nehme₁₄₉₉ 22:06, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• From what I can see, it's more typical to use the full name of Major League Soccer on the first use. So the sentence "began his senior career at Sporting Kansas City in the MLS" might be better as "began his career with Major League Soccer side Sporting Kansas City in..."

- Done --SuperJew (talk) 10:38, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• "moved to Thailand at BEC Tero Sasana" with rather than at?

Done Nehme₁₄₉₉ 22:06, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Is there a need for the citizenship links to the US and Lebanon. It seems a bit close to WP:OVERLINK unless there's a genuine need for the link?

I don't see why they shouldn't be linked. Each country has its own nationality laws, and it can be useful to understand the different circumstances behind acquiring US citizenship vs Lebanese citizenship. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 22:06, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Youth and college career

• I'm wondering if the first two subsections here (Michigan Wolves and Vardar) may be better off merged. They only amount to four sentences in total, so merging them under a single "early career" heading or similar seems more appropriate perhaps

Done Nehme₁₄₉₉ 22:06, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• "Deaborn" > Dearborn

Done Nehme₁₄₉₉ 22:06, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• "Unable to sign for a club in Europe", was there an issue with him joining, as it sounds like he was denied by circumstances beyond his control at the moment. If he simply didn't earn a deal somewhere, might need rewording to something like "However, he was unable to secure a move..."

Done, he simply couldn't earn a deal. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 22:06, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sporting Kansas City

• "during his 19th birthday", on his 19th birthday perhaps?

Done Nehme₁₄₉₉ 22:06, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Thailand

• "his side survive relegation", survive relegation sounds a little odd, avoid instead?

Done Nehme₁₄₉₉ 22:06, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Return to the United States

• "deflected in goal" > into the goal

Done Nehme₁₄₉₉ 22:06, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ansan Greeners

• "His first-minute debut came three days later", what's a first-mimute debut?

A debut as a starter, opposed to a debut coming on as a substitute. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 22:06, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Al-Wehdat

• Two of the dates listed here are April 4, I'm guessing one is incorrect.

Done, the second date was April 14. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 22:06, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

PT Prachaup

• What's his current status, was he released by the club? The lead shows him as unattached but there's no mention of him leaving the club here.

He is currently unattached, with his contract having expired. There is no mention in articles about this, though. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 22:06, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lebanon

• "With the start, Saad made his international debut", I don't think with the start is necessary here as it reads a little oddly.

Done Nehme₁₄₉₉ 22:06, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's pretty much all that I can see. The refs are well formatted and a spot check on a few comes back fine for verification. Placing on hold while the points above are addressed. Kosack (talk) 09:50, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Kosack: thank you for the review! I've addressed all of the points above. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 22:06, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to promote, all of my concerns addressed. Kosack (talk) 07:46, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 21:05, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Saad with Ansar in 2019

... that Soony Saad (pictured) scored on his Major League Soccer debut on his 19th birthday? Source: Major League Soccer
- Reviewed: Farha (film)

Improved to Good Article status by Nehme1499 (talk). Self-nominated at 09:54, 10 December 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Reviewing... Onegreatjoke (talk) 17:15, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: - Not done
Overall: @Nehme1499: Good article. Article is sourced and the hook is interesting. Just waiting on a QPQ. Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:00, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Onegreatjoke: done. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 18:35, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, approving. Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:46, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There are a few things that I feel can be reworded. SL93 (talk) 16:48, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"ahead of the 2015 season"

"became the first MLS player to join the Lebanon"

"won his services in a weighted lottery system utilized by the league to distribute players who sign with the league after the MLS SuperDraft."

"his high school career with a state record 172 goals"

"coming on as a substitute" SL93 (talk) 16:48, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@SL93: I personally don't see the issue with the highlighted sentences. How would you change them? Nehme₁₄₉₉ 17:50, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I took care of it. SL93 (talk) 18:01, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]