Talk:Social issue/Archive 1

Archive 1

Notes

This article needs expansion, links, references, and much much more. --70.50.54.20 (talk) 02:11, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Thomas Paine, in Rights of Man and Common Sense, addresses man's duty to "allow the same rights to others as we allow ourselves". The failure to do so causes the birth of a social issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The2nafishy (talk • contribs) 21:10, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Redirects

I added a redirect here from "Social problems" which was originally redirecting to disease. I'm a sociologist, and that seemed like a more appropriate redirect, though I'm not sure if other disciplines would prefer to keep "issues" and "problems" distinct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NerdyVibe (talk • contribs) 17:04, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Social issues in politics

Perhaps this is a result of too much time in Amherst, but many people I've met divide politics into "social issues" and "economic issues" as do the papers to some extent. Certainly that's what I was expecting here, rather than humanist platitudes about "social justice." Maybe the area term is unique to my area, but people here call the things you have here "social justice issues," whereas "social issues" are abortion, "women's issues," gun control, and gay rights. --71.192.116.13 00:55, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay, in the ndhes tewstotably Christian United States of America abortion and genetic science might be seen by some as social issues, however, then one could add there masturbation, gay love, biology and whatever else is forbidden or condemned in this particular religion. The difference between a social issue and an ideological one is that in the former case there are actual people who are physically affected by it (like war, unemployment, discrimination), when in the case of abortion/genetics there are no such people. -- 86.110.187.10 (talk) 14:38, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Thomas Paine, in Rights of Man and Common Sense, addresses man's duty to "allow the same rights to others as we allow ourselves". The failure to do so causes the birth of a social issue. These issues get the ball rolling for un-utopian circumstances within a society and eventually spiral out of control. The status quo of a society depends upon a delicate balance between the people and the government. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The2nafishy (talk • contribs) 21:10, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Worse than useless

It seems like this page has no sources except for the two that I added, one of which admittedly is of limited relevance and the other is a blog post. The idea I had in mind was social issues as distinguished from economic issues. In other words, abortion would be an example, but poverty would not. As long as people insist on saying Serpens issues like war and poverty, I think this page is worse than useless. Unless someone can find reliable sources, rather than have a page built mostly on original research, in my view it would be better to simply remove the list of individual issues and stick to general description. —Othniel Kenaz 19:42, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

I too have noticed the problems with this article. It needs an overhaul. Callister2 (talk) 12:00, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Need consensus

Until November, 6th 2011 the page had an extensive coverage (even if, maybe, a little analytical and uncomplete) of a lot of social issues. Then, after some amendation until November, 20th 2011, the editor Callister2 has arbitrarily taken the control of the page.

Compare the editings.

Mormegil 87.20.79.149 (talk) 19:43, 21 November 2011 (UTC) - updated 87.20.79.149 (talk) 20:06, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

This page has a lot of problems. No sources. The sources that are used are not very authoritative if at all. Original research. Commonplace assumptions, "common sense", used to illustrate. Until this page gets its act together, it would be more encyclopedic, more responsible, to pare it down. It reads like a definitions.com or urbandictionary entry for social science. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.35.22.135 (talk) 15:25, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Distinguished from economic issues ?

I'd like to know what is exactly intended by the sentence "Social issues are distinguished from economic issues". Isn't financial freedom a problem of economics as well as of politics or philosophy ? The laws on alcohol, tobacco and smoking are not to be considered of the domain of economics ? That is nonsense. Any kind of laws that restrict the production of companies is an economic problem whereas they cannot produce, therefore no wealth is produced. Maybe my mistake is the miscomprehension of the word 'economic issue' ?

--L'Aristocrate (talk) 23:01, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

The intent is to distinguish issues which are controversial because moral, cultural or ethical positions/ideologies are involved, as opposed to issues which are controversial because of the economic stakes. Thus, we distinguish an issue like tax breaks for second homes (an economic issue) from an issue like prayer in schools (a social issue). Except from the viewpoints of the more radical libertarians and Marxists, the distinction is a useful one. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:05, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

AfD'd in error

In error, I nominated this article for deletion. Meclee (talk) 21:52, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

United States bias??

I just made an edit to the article then stopped and read the thing to the end. It seems to me that this article has been written with a very definite bias to the U.S. political usage of the term "social issues" with listings such as Abortion and Gay Rights which are called "social issues" in U.S. politics. I am British and think of social issues as including things such as poverty, crime, justice, education, etc.,which are all in one way or another connected to economic issues. The tax structure (an economic issue) has a huge influence on poverty (a social issue). They cannot be separated. I simply do not understand the last sentence in the lede "The impact of social issues are only on the people living in that particular area" (despite the references).

In retrospect, I think this article should not even try to define "social issues". It should just list them.84.250.230.158 (talk) 06:15, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure how the term is treated currently in the British media, but I know historically things like abortion and marriage would have been understood in this context in the British debate. If you trace back the public understanding of what makes "social issues" you eventually get back to all of the social reform movements of the 19th century.. and particularly to the "Social Purity" movement, which was particularly characterized with concerns over sexual vice, but oriented the term "social" very closely with matters that dealt with social relationships, and particularly with family life or what was seen as a threat to family life. Prostitution was the first issue that galvanized it (in Britain first, then in the US), and it later dealt with thing like contraception, abortion and pornography. It was also closely connected to the temperance movement and suffrage movements.

Eventually it expanded to be ostensibly about a large range of issues, including things like sanitation, healthy eating, sex education, and venereal diseases, and evolved into the "Social Hygiene" movement. Social Hygiene tracts also talked about things like factory conditions, poverty, education, crime and matters of war and peace. In religious circles, this led to what was called the Social Gospel. The Social Hygiene movement eventually collided with the Eugenics movement, which then turned on a lot of the original social purity positions, supporting things like birth control. I'm currently working on an expanded article on the Social Purity movement which should make this all pretty clear.

At any rate, I would suggest that a lot of conservative thinkers, certainly in the US, but also in the UK, still link the "family" issues to economic issues; believing that stable families lead to stable economies. Brianshapiro (talk) 06:29, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Unemployment

I do not see why my contribution was deemed as "vandalism" (which is strong, hurtful, misleading term) and "inexperienced" by Hmains. I researched for days everything that I put up there and even referenced them. 1) How is that considered vandalism if it is cited? and 2) There needs to be a better explanation than just "vandalism" and "inexperienced" on why it was deleted. Besides all you were looking for were reasons and examples of the social issues. That is what it stated that "This article is too short, is incomplete. Please help to improve the article" Am I wrong? Please correct me if I am. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PreciousCici22 (talk • contribs) 21:12, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 4 March 2013

Betsywiegand (talk) 15:27, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Racism

The term racism can describe the hostility and discrimination towards a group for just about any reason. The tragic events of the Holocaust can give us strong examples of racism, and even though some say it is dying, racism is still very prominent in our culture and can effect ones day to day activities. Racism has been a social problem since time can remember, it causes human conflicts and and to a greater extent it causes war. http://ivythesis.typepad.com/term_paper_topics/2009/08/social-problem-racism.html

Not done: Vague editorializing. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 15:49, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 4 March 2013

Obesity

Obesity is a prevalent social problem in today's society, with rates steadily increasing. According to the Weight Control Information Network, since the early 1960s, the prevalence of obesity among adults more than doubled, increasing from 13.4 to 35.7 percent in U.S. adults age 20 and older. In addition, today two in three adults are considered overweight or obese, and one in six children aged 6-19 are considered obese.

Nickrahenkamp (talk) 17:34, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

 Done Replaced obesity section with what you proposed. - Camyoung54 talk 02:31, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Social issue (or) Social problem?

I think Social problem would be a more accurate title for this article. Other than the current name and opening sentence, it is all about social problems, or at least one, eclectic list of them. Regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 17:37, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Makes sense to me. While I wouldn't normally consider such a move very controversial, given the somewhat contentious AfD debate I suppose we should formally request this just to confirm some consensus. I'll add the template. Buddy23Lee (talk) 18:04, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

I agree with BDD's comments, below, that the list includes both what might be termed 'social issues' and 'social problems'. Whether a particular topic is an issue or problem is somewhat relative to one's point of view. I'm not sure what would be best to do toward further developing this article. A list of 'social issues' is theoretically almost infinite and therefore rather impractical. But within sociology and other social science fields the study of social problems, including their relativity, is a foundational area. Viz. the highly reputable journal, Social Problems, and the venerable Society for the Study of Social Problems (SSSP). Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 16:13, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Jenks24 (talk) 11:27, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

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Social issue → Social problem – Article appears to be a list of social problems and would be better suited to a title reflecting such. Buddy23Lee (talk) 18:12, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Looking even closer at it, it could also be a List of social problems... Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 19:31, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:NPOV. Who says women serving in combat roles is a problem? Stick with the neutral phrasing. --BDD (talk) 22:07, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
• Oppose per BDD, neutrality argument seems quite valid here. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:43, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
• Oppose. The only evidence supporting seems to be a personal POV, and as BDD points out, it's one to avoid. Andrewa (talk) 19:35, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

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Wasting

I think wasting is also one of the main issue in U.S. With the development of technology and economy, the level of productive feces in U.S. is higher than other countries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.228.173.97 (talk) 22:27, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

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Creative arts

About examples of social issues Montjow (talk) 18:12, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Can you please help me

Montjow (talk) 18:13, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Montjow (talk) 18:13, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Please help me with something Montjow (talk) 18:14, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

About examples of social issues please Montjow (talk) 18:14, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Please!! Montjow (talk) 18:17, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

English

What is the meaning of the social issues 49.146.29.194 (talk) 23:09, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Did you read the article? If English is not your first language, you may want to see if this article is reproduced at one of the affiliates of the English Wikipedia in your native language. General Ization ^Talk 23:15, 6 March 2022 (UTC)