Talk:Scott Bernard

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Jsamans (talk) 21:04, 21 July 2010 (UTC): I'm annoyed by what has become a presistent attempt to depict Scott Bernard as a member of the "21st Mars Division," presumably to perpetuate the notion that Lancer was part of the "10th Mars Division." The series does not corroborate this. Bernard presents himself in the first New Generation episode as "Commander Bernard of the 21st Combat Squadron, Mars Division" and later introduces himself to Colonel Wolfe as "leader of the 21st Squadron."[reply]

It matters (insofar as anything relating to Robotech continuity can be termed important) because the misrepresentation suggests a size to the Robotech Expeditionary Force that is absurd. The fleet that Scott accompanied to Earth wasn't one of dozens of divisions in the REF fleet; it was one of a handful, a very signficant fighting force that comprised a considerable portion of the whole. That's why its rapid annihilation was such a big deal, i.e. the REF didn't have hundreds of thousands of ships to expend the way that the Zentraedi used to have.

As for Lancer, okay, so he was an Veritech pilot. That doesn't mean that he was REF, and if he was REF, he could've been part of earlier forces. Wolfe's expedition obviously predated the Mars Division assault.

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Stick Bernard and Scot Bernard are different characters. --79.71.98.209 (talk) 21:56, 16 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]