Talk:Rattata

"Mouse Pokemon"?

Shouldn't it be the Rat Pokemon? - NP Chilla 15:05, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Nope. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Rattata_(Pok%C3%A9mon)Gbear605 (talk) 10:59, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

OMGWTFBBG?

Whoa... Should information regarding the strategy shown in this go in the "In the Pokémon video games" section:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xTkLDGtu36Q

It's at the end of the movie where he uses an unsharked Lv. 1 Rattata to take out an Empoleon. The sheer ingenuity of that strategy... Should a technique like that be mentioned in the little blurb about this guy's strategy? CeeWhy2 03:13, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

No, and anything from YouTube, ESPECIALLY a :L1 taking out a 2nd-Stage, is INCREDIBLY suspect - I call Kaushit, since I know that cheat devices have codes for auto-OHKOs. -Jeske ^{(v^_^v)} 04:32, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

...Actually that was very plausible. Endeavor and Quick Attack...it's not anything especially impossible. And Cee, no, because something like that isn't exclusive to Rattata. A Starly could do that just as well.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 04:51, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

You have to also take into account the likelihood of an Empoleon having and using an attack that can outright geek a :L1, however, since an Empoleon will almost certainly move before a Rattata (disregarding Quick Attack). -Jeske ^{(v^_^v)} 04:55, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, it's got a Focus Sash, so...—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 05:06, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Assuming that's the same as a Focus Band in pre-DS games, he lucked - but it then would be possible. I'll concede that point. -Jeske ^{(v^_^v)} 05:15, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, the effect's the same. For whatever reason they renamed all the Bands to Sashes.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 05:32, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Actually, the Focus Sash is a distinct item from the Focus Band, with distinct effects. A Focus Sash will only work if the user is at 100% HP and will be killed in just one attack, in which case the Sash will activate, leaving 1 HP; the Focus Sash will activate 100% of the time if these requirements are met. On the other hand, the Focus Band will work irrespective of the user's HP levels prior to the potentially-fatal attack; however, it does not have a 100% success rate when working under the conditions necessary for activation.

In summation, Focus Sash has a 100% success rate; Focus Band does not. Both items work slightly differently, however. CeeWhy2 06:50, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

In fact, I've just tried this now on my own game, saving before a battle and pitting my weak Rattata against powerful foes to test the success rate of the Focus Sash. I tried 20 times - it worked every time. CeeWhy2 06:52, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

In any case, what I said stands - You can't add it because it constitutes a game guide. -Jeske ^{(v^_^v)} 13:19, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

It's not even unique to Rattatta, any Pokemon with Quick attack and Endeavor can do it. So it wouldn't belong in this article even if it wasn't game guide. And it's defeated completely by spikes or stone edge, and almost completely by poison spikes or harmful weather, so it isn't impressive. So QUIT ADDING F.E.A.R. YOU ANON!!!Spriteless 19:40, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Alternate Name?

I remember it being called a "Rattatat" in the cartoon show, with the extra "t" at the end--this apparently gives the name a better cartoonish sound. I think the original Gameboy Pokemon only had seven letters reserved for names, so the extra "t" may have been planned originally but omitted due to space.

No, Victreebel is ten letters, and the extra "t" may be some confusion with the similar-sounding onomatopoeia for machine-gun fire ("Ratatatat"). -Jeske ^{(v^_^v)} 23:54, 30 May 2007 (UTC)