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Please clarify

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I'm puzzled. This page came up as a "help contribute" - but there are already portal pages with this information. I have stopped adding content (computer security organizations) until I get a clearer understanding of what is going on here. --Ray Wyman Jr (talk) 04:04, 19 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Portals are samplers (kind of like the Readers' Digest), but providing readers with a little bit of everything Wikipedia has to offer in the form of article excerpts, some news, some categories, a suggested to-do list, a general list of topics, etc.
Here, we are shooting for a comprehensive fully annotated hierarchical outline on computer security which is part of the encyclopedia itself. The annotations help the reader in topic selection. Note that Wikipedia Outlines are fully structured topic lists, and these tree structures may go many levels deep, showing what belongs to what in great detail, each outline providing a conceptual map of the overall subject.
For some examples see Outline of chess, Outline of cell biology, Outline of forestry, and Outline of ancient Rome.
I look forward to your further content contributions. You have been doing an excellent job. The Transhumanist 05:54, 19 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That's a big help. Thanks! Ray Wyman Jr (talk) 05:57, 19 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep up the good work! The Transhumanist 19:48, 19 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Formatting

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Just completed a list of Computer Security Organizations - rather lengthy list. Columns? --RWyman 19:26, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Annotations. The Transhumanist 19:51, 19 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. Good idea. Will take some time reviewing, but definitely doable. --RWyman 20:22, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
I've restructured the tree in that section and have added a few annotations (taken from the articles), to give you an idea of what an outline should look like. I hope that helps. Most of the items in the list still need placement and annotations. The Transhumanist 21:30, 19 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent. Just what the wikidoctor ordered! --99.186.20.151 (talk) 21:35, 19 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Signature! D'oh! --99.186.20.151 (talk) 21:38, 19 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Login! D'oh! --RWyman 21:40, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
I'll stop by from time to time to check out your progress on the list. In the meantime, I may work on other sections, and other outlines. I look forward to seeing your further handiwork on this outline. Cheers, The Transhumanist 22:04, 19 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Happy to assist. And thank you for organizing this page. Looks great. --RWyman 00:10, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Hacking should not be under computer crimes

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It is a common usage, but wrong. Hacking as used by a substantial segment of the community simply means to figure something out. I am not sure how to restructure this to fix it, but will give it some though. You need to include the Edward Snowdens and Julian Assanges of the world. Major lack in the outline so far.

I have a fair amount of topic knowledge -- not guru level, but expert or close -- and will try to help but have never done an outline before, or used one on wikipedia for that matter, and so am not sure I uderstand what we are trying to produce, although the explanation provided by The Tranhumanist does help.

Right now I am going to work on some smaller issues, as I am really just doing this to procratinate on something else and can't engage on a topic as big as whitehat hacking or hacktivism.

also should include discussion of backdoors used by law enforcement agencies in various countries, SCADA, mobile security, privacy issues on all platforms, HTML 5 and privacy. Off the top of my head. 64.134.231.66 (talk) 05:20, 15 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

sorry, thought I was signed in. Above comment mine. Elinruby (talk) 05:28, 15 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Disagree. Public usage may be incorrect, however it follows the encyclopedic format to include the term nevertheless. As an alternative course, why not produce a link list to the extensive entries that already exist: Hacker (computer security), Hacker (hobbyist), Hacker (programmer subculture), and a disambiguation page Hacking, which eventually leads to Computer crime. Wikieditor 3833 (talk) 15:38, 15 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
How about where I put it, in its own separate section? We can then list those terms in there. And sure, we can note the usage. I just object to endorsing it. Elinruby (talk) 01:22, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Quick explanation of Wikipedia outlines

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"Outline" is short for "hierarchical outline". There are two types of outlines: sentence outlines (like those you made in school to plan a paper), and topic outlines (like the topical synopses that professors hand out at the beginning of a college course). Outlines on Wikipedia are primarily topic outlines that serve 2 main purposes: they provide taxonomical classification of subjects showing what topics belong to a subject and how they are related to each other (via their placement in the tree structure), and as subject-based tables of contents linked to topics in the encyclopedia. The hierarchy is maintained through the use of heading levels and indented bullets. See Wikipedia:Outlines for a more in-depth explanation. The Transhumanist 00:04, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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