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1969 South Pacific Games

Hi there @Kpaspery: Netball had no gold or silver medal awarded at the 1969 Games. From the news reporting at the time:

No Medals in Netball. A competition disappointment because only two territories—the Solomons and P-NG—entered, women's netball attracted only a few onlookers at the Boroko Reserve.

The Fijian team withdrew at the Last minute and two outsiders—Manly from Sydney and a "Combined" team—fielded teams to give the Solomon Islanders and New Guineans a variety of six matches each. No medals were awarded.
— Pacific Islands Monthly. p 33. September 1969., PIM.

Additionally, if you also look at the last page of the document cited in the current wikipedia article (copy from 1971) it states: "Prize awarded to P-NG. No medals awarded because only P-NG and BSIP entered." -- Ham105 (talk) 05:10, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The one I'm using Official results which is a primary resource, page 8. Page 9 & 10 is a news article from South Pacific Times tacked onto the bottom. Happy either way, but the current editing can be challenged as its not using a primary resource. --Kpaspery (talk) 05:17, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, @Kpaspery: Yes, those pages 9 & 10 are from a reliable WP:SECONDARY source in 1971. So too the 1969 source above. While primary sources from the Pacific Games Council website may also be used with care, their records can be incomplete and contain inaccuracies (particularly those going back many years).

It's not unknown for the PGC website to update and correct their records using material and sources from Wikipedia itself. Those PIM pages tacked on to the bottom that you mention were included on PCG's SportsTG website sometime after I had added that source to this encyclopedia two years ago. Perhaps coincidental – and there's no issue with them updating their records with these secondary sources – I support them doing so.

Back to the question at hand, there's no doubt PNG won the competition, such as it was, but it also it seems clear that netball in 1969 didn't meet the requirements for awarding medals, unfortunately. I think this article should reflect that so I'll amend the table and update references to include the Trove archived PIM articles from more than four decades back. -- Ham105 (talk) 06:10, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]