Talk:Mortimer Grimshaw/GA1
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Reviewer: DCI2026 (talk · contribs) 19:19, 30 November 2012 (UTC) I will begin this review as soon as possible, and hope to get my comments posted in a like fashion. dci | TALK 19:19, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
- The lead is excellent; I took the liberty of changing "lung power" to oratory. dci | TALK 00:05, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- I would suggest taking a little bit off of the lead where you refer to his accomplishments, and add more on his falling out with the union movement and on his later, more dubious and desperate "exploits". dci | TALK 00:13, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- Hardly any issues to speak of in the "early life" section. I would suggest extrapolating a bit on problems with cotton mill conditions, and the particular concerns of striking workers. dci | TALK 00:05, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
The Preston strike of 1853[edit]
- Is "struck" the correct term for "went on strike"? I've only seen the latter used. dci | TALK 00:05, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- Wiktionary seems to think it's correct, I think it should be fine. BigDom (talk) 00:05, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
- A little more information or context on Ernest Jones' labor parliament of 1854 would be helpful. dci | TALK 00:05, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- Is there any info on why Grimshaw and company were not able to find a suitable union role after their strike defeat? dci | TALK 00:05, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- Was he successful in obtaining funds to emigrate? You mention that, then move to his life in the northern US. Where exactly did he live in the US, for how long, and what did he do there? dci | TALK 00:05, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- Changed "attempted to raise funds" to "raised funds" to make it clearer. I don't think very much at all is known about his time in America, as far as I can see it's not in any of the books. He was quite a low-profile character by the time he emigrated so there's not as many details about this part of his life, but I'll see what I can find. BigDom (talk) 00:05, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
- Were they treated with hostility by crowds of uninvolved people who were irritated with them or by disenchanted cotton weavers? dci | TALK 00:05, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
Later career[edit]
- How did he get pro-Confederacy tendencies in the North? Was he upset with something he observed there? Note that addressing this point is not necessary to getting the article passed, it's just a bit odd. dci | TALK 00:05, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- I'd suggest splitting the first sentence of this paragraph into two parts, especially if you are able to respond to the above point. dci | TALK 00:05, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- How exactly was he a political adventurer, and how was he able to be an anti-union advocate if he was able to sell his services to the unions? dci | TALK 00:05, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
Overall comments[edit]
- OK, a couple more replies:
- Included a sentence about why there was no further role for him in the unions.
- Added a couple of sentences of info about Ernest Jones' labour parliament.
- Couldn't find anything more about his location in America, he was just too low profile then.
- Found a source for his pro-Confederacy leanings, so I've added a bit about that.
- Just waiting to see what to change in the lead now. Are the changes I've made OK? BigDom (talk) 20:41, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
- Everything looks excellent; I see no further issues in the body of the article. As for the lead: I think right now it focuses a bit heavily on his achievements, given the amount of information on his later falling out with the unions. I no longer think it's necessary to trim anything, but, as the man ended his days as a "notorious scoundrel" selling his services to both sides, there should be more information on that in the third paragraph. Other than that, the article is pretty much good to go. Thanks for your quick and quality revisions. dci | TALK 01:14, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
- OK, a couple more replies: