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Where is Earth Band

I thought the band was called Manfred Mann's Earth Band... right ? -- BlueEel 15:31 Apr 20, 2003 (UTC)

Erm...have you read the article? Deb 16:01 Apr 20, 2003 (UTC)

So then where is the article about Manfred Mann's Earth Band? The page just links back to here. [05:36, 25 June 2005 71.112.93.175]

The article should have a separate heading for the Earth Band, and Manfred Mann's Earth Band should link to that section anchor. Without sectioning it kind of seems like a run-on article --x1987x 18:50, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yeah, and it says very little about the songs of the Earth Band. Especially that rocking song "For You," what's the meaning, does the girl in that song die? Or what? --x1987x 18:51, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

There should at least be separate secions for MMEB and the two Manfred Mann pop groups. So you realize, the reason that the original pop group's frontsman Paul Jones left was at least partly because he was not identified with the band, but Mann was. (A CD compilation of that era quoted Jones about his reasons for leaving, saying, "[the fans] wanted Manfred Mann, and I was not Manfred Mann!" This band was radically different from anything that was done in the later years and was probably the one most commercially successful, probably because they were the most commercially-oriented band. The years the pop group had with Mike D'Abo were successful in their own right but were generally more experimental, closer to the vein of Yellow Submarine.

The SAS Band

I agree. I was looking for up to date info on the EB but to my surprise WP has only this. It is made more appropriate given the tours in the past year for 'The Manfreds' aka Manfred Mann and now this year, the MMEB. Plus of course, Jones' involvement with 'The Blues Band' and nothing to do with either of the former bands. It should also feature something on their lead singer <a href="./wiki.php?slug=Chris_Thompson" title="Chris Thompson">Chris Thompson</a>. He has been in and out of the band I believe and has had at least one other band - The SAS Band for example as well as singing on other people's projects I think. You can see the SAS Band singing Blinded by the Light on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw11bvh4yIo 81.86.144.210 12:36, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The man's name

The article says that "Manfred Mann himself was originally named Manfred Lubowitz". However, according to this interview: http://dmme.net/interviews/manmann.html Manfred says: "There is no Manfred Mann the person - my name is Manfred Lubowitz. And Mann is a professional entity, and nothing at all like me!". So, wouldn't it be more accurate to say that: "Manfred Mann is also the stage name of Manfred Lubowitz"? [23:39, 23 July 2005 69.138.246.216]

It seems to me that there is a bit of revisionism happening here. "the Five Faces of Manfred Mann," their first album - which has no date on it, but came out in 1964 - in introducing the band members states, "Manfred Mann, the actual owner of the name shared by all five boys is the organist/pianist ......." There is NO mention of this Lubowitz fellow. Carptrash 17:20, 25 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I do believe that the proper spelling is Manfred Leibowitz, which can be seen on the inside of the Glorified Magnified album. Anyway, I understand that he changed his name for marketing purposes (Manfred Mann was a much catchier name), but rather than simply use an alias, that Mann is his legal surname.

No information on Manfred Mann himself

The article's called Manfred Mann but ironically there's no information about Manfred Mann himself, apart from his birthdate and birthplace. If anything this article should be renamed Manfred Mann (band) and a seperate article created for the musician called Manfred Mann. 172.200.171.213 23:52, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge

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The result was no merge necessary. Enigma^msg 18:33, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I propose this page and this one be merged together. Both pages overlap in terms of information, personel, songs, etc... Not because the band and the musician have the same name, but because their histories overlap in multiple places. This creates a duplication of information Let the will of the community prevail. KoshVorlonNaluboutes,Aeria Gloris 16:45, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose--Manfred Mann (the band, now called The Manfreds) and Manfred Mann the musician have their own separate lives after Manfred Mann the musician left the group. Of course he formed Manfred Mann's Earth Band afterwards. Steelbeard1 (talk) 17:23, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose--Quite so. Rothorpe (talk) 17:43, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I'm actually pretty unfamiliar with the band and the man(n), but they seem to be independently notable. I see no good reason for a merge.ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡ bomb 18:03, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - there are sufficient differentials between Manfred Mann (musician), Manfred Mann and indeed Manfred Mann Chapter Three, Manfred Mann's Earth Band and The Manfreds, for all to exist as separate articles. I think some of these articles have information that spills outwards, and maybe better edited down to exclude this excess/duplication, but I oppose the merge. Derek R Bullamore (talk) 18:21, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - it's normal for a band and its leading member(s) to have separate articles. Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:39, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose really quite strongly. Would not be sensible ~ would we then merge in the Earth Band too, and Chapter Three? Just because they shared the same name doesn't mean they require the same article; after all this, that, and the other each exist. Cheers, Lindsay^Hi 19:22, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - obviously, unless you want to remove all articles on the other personnel, and all articles on personnel of bands - Jimi Hendrix anybody? Surely The Jimi Hendrix Experience suffices? John Lennon? File under The Beatles. Need I go on? Bad idea. Redheylin (talk) 22:52, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Musician is notable enough to have a separate page, as the band. ~ Elitropia (talk) 07:23, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Run-on sentence

I don't have time to correct the staggeringly epic run-on contained in the article right now -- anyone else want to take a crack at it?

"In December another EP set of instrumentals, Instrumental Assassination, was released which featured original member Dave Richmond on double bass, but not Mike d'Abo suggesting the sessions dated from a little earlier in 1966, but an instrumental version of Tommy Roe's "Sweet Pea" only reached No. 36 when issued as a single and the follow-up, Randy Newman's "So Long, Dad", with its intricate keyboard arrangement, missed the top twenty altogether, making 1967 largely an unsuccessful year in the charts (besides 'Ha Ha Said The Clown' which reached the UK singles chart early in 1967) with no album as Mann and Hugg explored other avenues of their career, although their record company did compile the UK budget priced album; 'What A Mann' (Fontana SFL 13003) a predominantly instrumental set gathering together a few recent singles 'A' sides, 'B' sides, and instrumental EP tracks circa 1966–67."

Whew! 70.31.82.97 (talk) 15:43, 26 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've had a go. Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:22, 26 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

the Manfreds

MPERCH (talk) 16:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)During my schooldays at the mid-1960s I bought a set of contemporary pop bands photos, and there was the photo named The Manfreds. Was it an official nikname for Manfred Mann band to be recalled in the 1990s?[reply]

I don't know about official, but it was an in-joke in the lyrics of 5-4-3-2-1 in 1964. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 16:31, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, thanx! MPERCH (talk) 21:23, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Blinded by the Light

I didn't see any mention of their cover of the Bruce Springsteen song. It was a hit for Manfred Mann in the 70's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.255.170.52 (talk) 14:05, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

See the note at the top of the article: For his later band, see Manfred Mann's Earth Band. Ghmyrtle (talk) 14:09, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The Manfred Mann Album and Mann Made

Can someone please do an "Overview" section for The Manfred Mann Album and Mann Made please. An Overview section being as long as what is like on the As Is album. Thanks. McGuinessTom1941 (talk) 22:35, 7 May 2018 (UTC) McGuinessTom1941 (talk) 22:35, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Timeline

I think the EPs should also be signified in the timeline, since they show that Voormann joined before Mike D'Abo. Also, Dobson and Lowther should be in the graphic too. Jules TH 16 (talk) 15:14, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

English for the Limeys

The “group” is a singular compound noun. Hence, “the group WAS singing” NOT “the group were singing”. Etc. 2601:586:D030:ABD5:E0AA:2B10:BEED:5C1F (talk) 22:09, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Manfred Mann are a British group and so British English is used in this article. “Were” “are” etc in relation to the band are British English. Humbledaisy (talk) 22:52, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mike d'Abo and Fontana

Regarding Jones was replaced by Mike d'Abo in July 1966, and the group switched labels to Fontana Records, - as I understood it, those occurred the other way around. The group's contract with HMV being due to expire, they looked for a new label, and found Fontana. But Paul Jones had already signed with HMV as a solo singer, so was obliged to leave the band; they were already with Fontana when Mike d'Abo joined. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:40, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]