Talk:List of industrial schools

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Do Secondary modern schools form part of this list?

They appear to meet the criteria, @FloridaArmy, or do they? 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:20, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What’s really needed is an article on industrial schools. This list is really a supplement to a subject we don’t yet cover. I have limited familiarity with what industrial schools are in the I.S. and I don’t know how similar or different they may be in other areas. I know we have articles on the British legislation and also I believe in Ireland. Industrial schools are certainly an important and controversial subject in the educational history of the United States. I wasn’t prepared to take it on but would try to help if someone else initiates the endeavor. I did recently start an entry on Draft:County Training Schools, a related and somewhat disturbing subject.y understanding is that Industrial schools in the U.S. were often used for troubled “delinquent” students and African Americans and that it continued a history of pretty abusive institutions that often did not properly care for or educate the students and instead often exploited them. I’m not sure how to specifically answer your question. Can you give an example? FloridaArmy (talk) 20:36, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@FloridaArmy I have no simple examples beyond that the UK's secondary modern schools were intended to train the less able (many of whom were not less able) for trades and manual work, whereas the more(!) able were educated to be the clerical and management streams

From what you say about the possible institutionalised abusive nature of those you describe I think the are sufficiently divergent not to be part of the overall theme 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:01, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The debate about educational models and opportunities continues. I believe the old style industrial schools tried to garner income from their operations. It’s a debate that continues on how to educate students, to what extent to provide “useful” practical training, and whether all students should receive a liberal education or whether vocational training is more suitable and desirable for some. FloridaArmy (talk) 22:10, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]